Ryan Wilson
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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Pags
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Stony Point, NY Joined: 10.06.2007
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I hope POJ gets to play. Also Ty Smith. But someone’s going to be the odd man out. Training camp will sort out some things I hope. |
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Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wampum, PA Joined: 01.20.2014
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Teddy sends Archie on a breakaway against Arizona, scores a goal. Bingo, bango, bongo Archibald is the 'guy who can play up and down the lineup.' |
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Ruutta signing is still baffling if Petry was the plan from the beginning. Do they expect him to take a top 4 role next year when dumo leaves? |
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VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Munich Joined: 06.06.2017
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TartanBill
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 04.16.2016
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“NHL general managers can’t help themselves than be attracted to guys like Dumoulin who are two-time Stanley Cup champions with a history of success. We see it all the time.
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Jan Rutta is something I still don’t understand. “
You answered your own question , that someone was Hex |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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“NHL general managers can’t help themselves than be attracted to guys like Dumoulin who are two-time Stanley Cup champions with a history of success. We see it all the time.
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Jan Rutta is something I still don’t understand. “
You answered your own question , that someone was Hex - TartanBill
Hahaha |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Teddy sends Archie on a breakaway against Arizona, scores a goal. Bingo, bango, bongo Archibald is the 'guy who can play up and down the lineup.' - Thunderbolt
Yea it's really looking like Archie will be in the lineup at the beginning of the season. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Is it possible Nylander Makes the team and contributes in the top 9?. Was decent at WB last year. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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NHL general managers can’t help themselves than be attracted to guys like Dumoulin who are two-time Stanley Cup champions with a history of success. We see it all the time. Somebody would have bit.
Jan Rutta is something I still don’t understand. - Ryan_Wilson
It seems pretty easy to understand given the sentences directly preceding it. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I’d very much like to be proven wrong on this prediction. - Ryan_Wilson
This is a load of crap. This coming from the guy who was actually upset that the Penguins won the Caps series because the fancy stats favored the Caps. |
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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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I love how bloggers pretend to know exactly what general managers are thinking. |
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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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I bet Rutta ends up with great fancy stats and all of you love him. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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I bet Rutta ends up with great fancy stats and all of you love him. - Grinder47
I do think Rutta will be good for us. Also think Smith is not getting enough credit around here.
Hopefully Dumoulin and Carter can have good seasons. Both were pretty good for us before some parts of this last season. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I bet Rutta ends up with great fancy stats and all of you love him. - Grinder47
The issue with Rutta is not how good he winds up being. It’s that he’s not necessary. It’s cap space that could have been spent elsewhere. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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The issue with Rutta is not how good he winds up being. It’s that he’s not necessary. It’s cap space that could have been spent elsewhere. - Rinosaur
Mngmnt wanted size+puck moving Dmen and thay acomplished that by bringing in Petry (both), Rutta (size) and Smith (puck movement). Nothing wrong about that...
I just would never trade Matheson for that to happen. Sucks.
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Mngmnt wanted size+puck moving Dmen and thay acomplished that by bringing in Petry (both), Rutta (size) and Smith (puck movement). Nothing wrong about that... - Barnaby36
Yes, there is something wrong about poor asset management. Spending in areas you DON'T need prevents you from spending in areas you DO need. Instead of spending on Rutta, they could have added Nino Niederreter who addresses adding size and an upgrade to the forward group.
I think sometime you focus so much on "giving things a chance" you miss the asset management portion. Right now, unless a lot of "what ifs" pan out, the Pens bottom six is a major step down from last year and that WILL be a problem.
And FWIW, while Rutta brings size, he doesn't use his size enough. |
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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: PA Joined: 07.03.2017
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I guess from the talk inside the organization is that Rutta was brought in to clear the front of the net especially on the PK. Him and Petry are seen as something we were lacking due to their ability to clear the net. Hex wanted to improve the teams defense in front of the net and also our ability to add factors we were missing one season prior.
I think this is also why Poehling was someone Hex was excited to add, because he is young and he will go to the net. I believe this is a big factor into us resigning Rakell as well. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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I guess from the talk inside the organization is that Rutta was brought in to clear the front of the net especially on the PK. Him and Petry are seen as something we were lacking due to their ability to clear the net. Hex wanted to improve the teams defense in front of the net and also our ability to add factors we were missing one season prior.
I think this is also why Poehling was someone Hex was excited to add, because he is young and he will go to the net. I believe this is a big factor into us resigning Rakell as well. - 123Kid
Exactly this. That's what they wanted to do. I just wouldn't trade Matheson as I thought he was a part of the solution.
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Yes, there is something wrong about poor asset management. Spending in areas you DON'T need prevents you from spending in areas you DO need. Instead of spending on Rutta, they could have added Nino Niederreter who addresses adding size and an upgrade to the forward group.
I think sometime you focus so much on "giving things a chance" you miss the asset management portion. Right now, unless a lot of "what ifs" pan out, the Pens bottom six is a major step down from last year and that WILL be a problem.
And FWIW, while Rutta brings size, he doesn't use his size enough. - Rinosaur
All You said above I agree just you're not factoring mngmnt wanted size in the back end. Period. You can play manager all you want but it won't matter.
Trading Matheson was an example of poor asset mngmt as he had good size and was a very good puck moving Dman. Signing Kapanen to this amount $$ was poor asset mngmnt. The Marino deal was OK as they cleared space and brought a good young player in Ty Smith and signed Rutta (bigger body, as they wanted).
With all that said a Nino signing wasn't lost on the Rutta deal. Period.
Edit: Pettersson is a good defensive player but just cant clear the net as he weighs as much as a 5'10" guy. I really thought he was the one to go before Matheson or Marino. Apparently we found no takers. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I guess from the talk inside the organization is that Rutta was brought in to clear the front of the net especially on the PK. Him and Petry are seen as something we were lacking due to their ability to clear the net. Hex wanted to improve the teams defense in front of the net and also our ability to add factors we were missing one season prior.
I think this is also why Poehling was someone Hex was excited to add, because he is young and he will go to the net. I believe this is a big factor into us resigning Rakell as well. - 123Kid
If they brought in Rutta to clear the net front on the PK fire everyone in hockey ops. We’re talking about a soft defenseman that wasn’t in the primary PK rotation for Tampa. |
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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA Joined: 06.25.2011
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Exactly this. That's what they wanted to do. I just wouldn't trade Matheson as I thought he was a part of the solution. - Barnaby36
Petry will handle the loss of Matheson and then some. He's more reliable than Math. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Petry will handle the loss of Matheson and then some. He's more reliable than Math. - 668710
Think about both with us....pretty eh?
Matheson (Dumoulin) -Letang
Petterson (Matheson)-Petry
Smith/Joseph-Rutta |
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