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furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
Honestly I think he simply didn’t want to leave Nashville. It’s great for hockey players. Good weather low taxes good environment

Obviously he was banged up. Let the body and mind rest and recharge. Let the desire to play heal after going to such poop team. Work way back then request trade.

- Stayin alive

Is he hurt/dinged up? Yes 100%. To what extent apparently only God knows. Did at some point seeing how the team was going decide no benefit to play this season let me get healthy.

Now if that is the case at some point he needs to get on the ice if he wants out. Doesn't seem he will be back on the ice any time soon. So things don't add up. Though the whole thing is just odd.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
But if no team is willing to do that, he signs for what he can get or he sits, right?
- jd250

Yes. Clearly Calgary buckled.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
So you guessed correctly on something that the entire hockey world was also speculating was a possibility with regards to Giroux?

You posted that Gaudreau to the Flyers was a done deal.

- MJL

Yeah dippitydo brain. I said that week before draft. As it came out trade didn’t happen. Pretty easy to see what happened after. Jg waiting til late in day to allow philly chance to move cap pretty clear.

Obviously jg not gonna throw philly under bud. He wanted to come home.

Or maybe you believe Chuck that philly was never in on jg. Which is as laughable as anything he’s done.

You can spew you guessed all you want. G to Ottawa was never more than an afterthought by those in the know. And only because the go home theory which almost never happens with star players.

G going to Ottawa was looked at maybe slightly better chance than going back to philly.

Everyone was guessing signing somewhere to win cup. Most likely back to Florida.

But yeah try your twist

Fraud
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:16 PM ET
Are you saying that he could've played last year if he wanted to?
- MJL

Newsflash for mr cap expert and resident fraud.



He DID play last year
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yeah dippitydo brain. I said that week before draft. As it came out trade didn’t happen. Pretty easy to see what happened after. Jg waiting til late in day to allow philly chance to move cap pretty clear.

Obviously jg not gonna throw philly under bud. He wanted to come home.

Or maybe you believe Chuck that philly was never in on jg. Which is as laughable as anything he’s done.

You can spew you guessed all you want. G to Ottawa was never more than an afterthought by those in the know. And only because the go home theory which almost never happens with star players.

G going to Ottawa was looked at maybe slightly better chance than going back to philly.

Everyone was guessing signing somewhere to win cup. Most likely back to Florida.

But yeah try your twist

Fraud

- Stayin alive


No, Philly was thought to be off of the table. I mean, why? it made no sense for him to return.

But I admit, although I had Ottawa listed as a possibility in my brain because of his connection, it was a distant second to resigning in Florida.

Oh, and you were lead pipe picking that JG thing for quite a bit. Definitely some egg, there.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yeah dippitydo brain. I said that week before draft. As it came out trade didn’t happen. Pretty easy to see what happened after. Jg waiting til late in day to allow philly chance to move cap pretty clear.

Obviously jg not gonna throw philly under bud. He wanted to come home.

Or maybe you believe Chuck that philly was never in on jg. Which is as laughable as anything he’s done.

You can spew you guessed all you want. G to Ottawa was never more than an afterthought by those in the know. And only because the go home theory which almost never happens with star players.

G going to Ottawa was looked at maybe slightly better chance than going back to philly.

Everyone was guessing signing somewhere to win cup. Most likely back to Florida.

But yeah try your twist

Fraud

- Stayin alive


Oh, the irony of you calling someone a fraud.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Is he hurt/dinged up? Yes 100%. To what extent apparently only God knows. Did at some point seeing how the team was going decide no benefit to play this season let me get healthy.

Now if that is the case at some point he needs to get on the ice if he wants out. Doesn't seem he will be back on the ice any time soon. So things don't add up. Though the whole thing is just odd.

- furio16


I stated back when bs report of he’d be going hard in July and most likely back for camp it was bs.

I stick by what I said back in may/June. He probably starts seriously skating around Xmas time comes back Jan/feb plays around that 10-20 games before tdl and request and gets traded.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
No, Philly was thought to be off of the table. I mean, why? it made no sense for him to return.

But I admit, although I had Ottawa listed as a possibility in my brain because of his connection, it was a distant second to resigning in Florida.

- Hesh_

and see, I struggled with how Florida would be able to retain him. Thought Ottawa was really the most likely destination.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:23 PM ET
I stated back when bs report of he’d be going hard in July and most likely back for camp it was bs.

I stick by what I said back in may/June. He probably starts seriously skating around Xmas time comes back Jan/feb plays around that 10-20 games before tdl and request and gets traded.

- Stayin alive

As did everyone.

He will not have any trade value using your time frame. No team will take that risk.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
No, Philly was thought to be off of the table. I mean, why? it made no sense for him to return.

But I admit, although I had Ottawa listed as a possibility in my brain because of his connection, it was a distant second to resigning in Florida.

Oh, and you were lead pipe picking that JG thing for quite a bit. Definitely some egg, there.

- Hesh_


Exactly. Those in the know would mention resigning in Philly or Ottawa just to make talk. They never really thought he’d go anywhere but contender. Most likely staying in Florida. No one really seriously thought otherwise. Seriously being key word.

I simply passed along my cousin works for real estate firm that was working with g and wife looking into houses and wife was looking at schools and such and mjl fraud comes up with oh you guessed. Then attacks what I was told about jg.

Funniest part is what is more likely I guessed and made all that up in both cases with all involved and happen to be right on g which would be guess and agility of the year and jg saga that many “in the know” stated about draft day trade falling through and all that crap

Or it happened as I said.

Damn maybe I should write a book. I’d be rich. I clearly have some wild imagination.

Mjl the fraud is just mad at world probably a sociopath
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:29 PM ET
As did everyone.

He will not have any trade value using your time frame. No team will take that risk.

- furio16

He has trade value. Obviously not much. Many teams would trade for him if he’s back playing.

The question is… what’s the value? Does philly have to retain salary to move him? Things like that
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:29 PM ET
Exactly. Those in the know would mention resigning in Philly or Ottawa just to make talk. They never really thought he’d go anywhere but contender. Most likely staying in Florida. No one really seriously thought otherwise. Seriously being key word.

I simply passed along my cousin works for real estate firm that was working with g and wife looking into houses and wife was looking at schools and such and mjl fraud comes up with oh you guessed. Then attacks what I was told about jg.

Funniest part is what is more likely I guessed and made all that up in both cases with all involved and happen to be right on g which would be guess and agility of the year and jg saga that many “in the know” stated about draft day trade falling through and all that crap

Or it happened as I said.

Damn maybe I should write a book. I’d be rich. I clearly have some wild imagination.

Mjl the fraud is just mad at world probably a sociopath

- Stayin alive

The Ottawa blogger who does have connections said Ottawa and Philly talked trade last summer. He has always said Ottawa wanted him. This goes back over a year.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:31 PM ET
He has trade value. Obviously not much. Many teams would trade for him if he’s back playing.

The question is… what’s the value? Does philly have to retain salary to move him? Things like that

- Stayin alive

Disagree 100% he has zero. Many?

Unless he is 100% not able to play anymore. Then the contract can be moved at some point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:31 PM ET
Yeah dippitydo brain. I said that week before draft. As it came out trade didn’t happen. Pretty easy to see what happened after. Jg waiting til late in day to allow philly chance to move cap pretty clear.

Obviously jg not gonna throw philly under bud. He wanted to come home.

Or maybe you believe Chuck that philly was never in on jg. Which is as laughable as anything he’s done.


- Stayin alive


So the guy calling someone dippitydo brain doesn't understand the difference between Gaudreau wanting to come to the Flyers and the Flyers needing to clear cap room to make it happen and it being a DONE DEAL.

I've posted multiple times that Fletcher stating he was not in on Gaudreau is semantics.



You can spew you guessed all you want. G to Ottawa was never more than an afterthought by those in the know. And only because the go home theory which almost never happens with star players.

G going to Ottawa was looked at maybe slightly better chance than going back to philly.

Everyone was guessing signing somewhere to win cup. Most likely back to Florida.

But yeah try your twist

Fraud

- Stayin alive


It was well discussed all over that Ottawa was a strong possibility. Due to it basically being his second home. It was also well known that Florida would have trouble fitting him in under the cap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:32 PM ET
Newsflash for mr cap expert and resident fraud.



He DID play last year

- Stayin alive


LOL. You know what I mean.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
and see, I struggled with how Florida would be able to retain him. Thought Ottawa was really the most likely destination.
- rayc16

Honestly I didn’t think he’d sign in Ottawa before my cousin said something. I thought he’d sign like 1 or 2 year deal with contender. Didn’t really think which one as there are many.

What pissed me off is a fraud attacking me or others on here because I simply stated what I was told. Coming from the biggest fraud walking the planet that will never give a number total on anything. He spews his reasons for a subject or whatever but when pressed for ok what the result always backs off. And twist. Too afraid to commit so people can question him later.


The funniest part he’d still not admit he was wrong. Never does.

Sociopath. Fraud.

Honestly been on this site for over decade and the day mjl gone the better
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
I stated back when bs report of he’d be going hard in July and most likely back for camp it was bs.

I stick by what I said back in may/June. He probably starts seriously skating around Xmas time comes back Jan/feb plays around that 10-20 games before tdl and request and gets traded.

- Stayin alive


So Ellis' plan is to miss basically a season and a half of hockey. Come back in February and then request a trade?

You call others a dippitydoo brain. It's pathetically sad. It really is.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
The Ottawa blogger who does have connections said Ottawa and Philly talked trade last summer. He has always said Ottawa wanted him. This goes back over a year.
- furio16


Well known. Ottawa was always one of the top rumored places he might go to.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
No, Philly was thought to be off of the table. I mean, why? it made no sense for him to return.

But I admit, although I had Ottawa listed as a possibility in my brain because of his connection, it was a distant second to resigning in Florida.

Oh, and you were lead pipe picking that JG thing for quite a bit. Definitely some egg, there.

- Hesh_


In regards to jg. Ask yourself this simple question…

If draft day trade was made ( I was told it was tk but some speculate Jvr) and it’s not speculation by me it was reported by all the big “in the know” names in hockey do you believe jg would be in Philly? That that move was intended to bring him in? Especially knowing now Ellis starting season playing was always a myth and would be put on ltir.

If you answer yes then my story holds water

If you answer no then there’s chance it doesn’t.

Really comes down to that
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
In regards to jg. Ask yourself this simple question…

If draft day trade was made ( I was told it was tk but some speculate Jvr) and it’s not speculation by me it was reported by all the big “in the know” names in hockey do you believe jg would be in Philly? That that move was intended to bring him in? Especially knowing now Ellis starting season playing was always a myth and would be put on ltir.

If you answer yes then my story holds water

If you answer no then there’s chance it doesn’t.

Really comes down to that

- Stayin alive


That's not correct. You stated it was a done deal. Perhaps you just don't know what a done deal is.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
The Ottawa blogger who does have connections said Ottawa and Philly talked trade last summer. He has always said Ottawa wanted him. This goes back over a year.
- furio16

That may be true. It was g decision to sign there. Every team would “want” g the player
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
Disagree 100% he has zero. Many?

Unless he is 100% not able to play anymore. Then the contract can be moved at some point.

- furio16

Why would a team not trade for Ellis if he’s healthy enough to play. And has desire to play? Is he a bum?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
Why would a team not trade for Ellis if he’s healthy enough to play. And has desire to play? Is he a bum?
- Stayin alive


In all sincerity. Does that honestly need to be answered for you?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
So the guy calling someone dippitydo brain doesn't understand the difference between Gaudreau wanting to come to the Flyers and the Flyers needing to clear cap room to make it happen and it being a DONE DEAL.

I've posted multiple times that Fletcher stating he was not in on Gaudreau is semantics.



It was well discussed all over that Ottawa was a strong possibility. Due to it basically being his second home. It was also well known that Florida would have trouble fitting him in under the cap.

- MJL



Hahahahaha dippy so you believe Chuck.

Yeah he had no desire to bring in a jg

He didn’t try to make cap moving trade at draft as reported by Friedman weekes and all the big names.


Ok.

Lmao

Fraud.

Mjl dying on that sword
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
LOL. You know what I mean.
- MJL



Yes I know EXACTLY what you mean


And you are WRONG

AS USUAL
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