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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
Hahahahaha dippy so you believe Chuck.

Yeah he had no desire to bring in a jg

He didn’t try to make cap moving trade at draft as reported by Friedman weekes and all the big names.


Ok.

Lmao

Fraud.

Mjl dying on that sword

- Stayin alive


You have a reading comprehension issue fool. In stating that I think Fletcher saying he wasn't in on Gaudreau is semantics. I'm saying that I don't believe Fletcher!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Yes I know EXACTLY what you mean


And you are WRONG

AS USUAL

- Stayin alive


How can someone be wrong by asking a question?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
So Ellis' plan is to miss basically a season and a half of hockey. Come back in February and then request a trade?

You call others a dippitydoo brain. It's pathetically sad. It really is.

- MJL



And here comes the fraud.

Ok dippy.

Put your exact prediction down.

What happens with Ellis does he come back?

If so when?

Does he stay in Philly?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
I’m seriously curious. If everything goes right do you actually think they get close to 88-90 points? I think if that’s the case they might hit 75 points. I see them in the 55-65 point range.

They suck.

- Stayin alive

I truly meant everything, Hart has a major bounce back, Ellis gets healthy, Farabee recovers quickly and takes the next step, Couts and Hayes both stay healthy etc….

My realistic expectations:

Hart gets dinged up and starts 50 games at most
Sandstrom can’t stay healthy and the minor league vet shows why he’s a minor league player

Ellis plays 0 games

At least one of Couts/Hayes plays fewer than 65 games

Sanheim & TK are moved for futures by the all star break, JVR too

Atkinson starts to break down by mid season

Provy-TDA fail miserably as a top pair and Risto drags down everyone who plays with him.

Yeah, Torts might get them to work a little harder, but that won’t overcome a lack of top end talent and shaky goaltending. My prediction: 65-68 points, dead last in the conference and 30th in the NHL.

#firefletcherandeveryoneelse
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
And here comes the fraud.

Ok dippy.

Put your exact prediction down.

What happens with Ellis does he come back?

If so when?

Does he stay in Philly?

- Stayin alive


I think it's about 90% that Ellis is never going to play again.
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Why would a team not trade for Ellis if he’s healthy enough to play. And has desire to play? Is he a bum?
- Stayin alive

Playing 10-12 games does not convince anyone he is healthy enough.

Never mind the long term contract.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
You have a reading comprehension issue fool. In stating that I think Fletcher saying he wasn't in on Gaudreau is semantics. I'm saying that I don't believe Fletcher!
- MJL

Semantics my ass

So now you don’t believe Chuck but try to use Chuck said they never were in on jg as means to discredit what I said. Ok bud can’t have it both ways in real world. Try to come back.

Ok dippy do you believe as reported not only by me but the “experts” that he had deal in place at draft and it fell through to move cap?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
I truly meant everything, Hart has a major bounce back, Ellis gets healthy, Farabee recovers quickly and takes the next step, Couts and Hayes both stay healthy etc….

My realistic expectations:

Hart gets dinged up and starts 50 games at most
Sandstrom can’t stay healthy and the minor league vet shows why he’s a minor league player

Ellis plays 0 games

At least one of Couts/Hayes plays fewer than 65 games

Sanheim & TK are moved for futures by the all star break, JVR too

Atkinson starts to break down by mid season

Provy-TDA fail miserably as a top pair and Risto drags down everyone who plays with him.

Yeah, Torts might get them to work a little harder, but that won’t overcome a lack of top end talent and shaky goaltending. My prediction: 65-68 points, dead last in the conference and 30th in the NHL.

#firefletcherandeveryoneelse

- BiggE


I think this is pretty accurate. I am fine with any player on the current roster getting traded for futures.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
I truly meant everything, Hart has a major bounce back, Ellis gets healthy, Farabee recovers quickly and takes the next step, Couts and Hayes both stay healthy etc….

My realistic expectations:

Hart gets dinged up and starts 50 games at most
Sandstrom can’t stay healthy and the minor league vet shows why he’s a minor league player

Ellis plays 0 games

At least one of Couts/Hayes plays fewer than 65 games

Sanheim & TK are moved for futures by the all star break, JVR too

Atkinson starts to break down by mid season

Provy-TDA fail miserably as a top pair and Risto drags down everyone who plays with him.

Yeah, Torts might get them to work a little harder, but that won’t overcome a lack of top end talent and shaky goaltending. My prediction: 65-68 points, dead last in the conference and 30th in the NHL.

#firefletcherandeveryoneelse

- BiggE

I agree with most of your predictions.

I just look at amazement when I see anything more than 75 point range if all is perfect scenarios with this team. IMO even in that case I don’t see anything more. This team blows even in perfect world.

In perfect world this team has

No top line

They would be a team with a 2nd line maybe a 3rd line and a couple 4th lines

A average maybe slightly better than average starting goalie and no back up

And a d setup of a 2nd pair and a 3rd pair and a pair that shouldn’t be more than injury replacement

In a stacked division and conference.

That’s maybe 25-30 wins on the season and with coaching maybe eek out 5-8 ot loser points. Maybe slightly better. Cant see how even in perfect world they get any higher than 75 points. At absolute best
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
Semantics my ass

So now you don’t believe Chuck but try to use Chuck said they never were in on jg as means to discredit what I said. Ok bud can’t have it both ways in real world. Try to come back.

Ok dippy do you believe as reported not only by me but the “experts” that he had deal in place at draft and it fell through to move cap?

- Stayin alive


No offense but you really are stupid.

The only thing I've used to discredit your claim that it was a DONE DEAL is that it wasn't a DONE DEAL. Not hard to figure out!


There is no such things as a DONE DEAL until a contract is signed! How do you not understand that? I believe 100% that the Flyers were Gaudreau's first choice. I believe 100% that Fletcher wanted to sign Gaudreau. I believed the talked about the guidelines of a deal during the period when teams were allowed to talk to UFA's

As far as the semantics is concerned. What I'm referring to is that Fletcher never sent a formal contract offer to Gaudreau because he could not clear the cap space. So therefore, he is using semantics to say he was "never in" on Gaudreau.

Here is ultimately what you don't get. Even though it has been explained to you countless times. If you had just said that there is strong interest on both sides and the Flyers are trying to make happen. If they can, Gaudreau will be a Flyer. If you had said that, there would've been no problem.

You didn't do that. You continued to spout it's a DONE DEAL. You embarrassed yourself and you continue to embarrass yourself every single time you come on the site. Today it's some asininely stupid assertion that Ellis just wants to be traded and is going to sit out all this time just to make that happen. All it takes is simple common sense to refute that.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
How can someone be wrong by asking a question?

- MJL

States Ellis didn’t play last year

Ellis DID play

Tried to twist “how can someone be wrong for asking question”

Wonders why called fraud and dippy.








NEVER JUST ADMITS WAS WRONG



SOCIOPATH
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
I agree with most of your predictions.

I just look at amazement when I see anything more than 75 point range if all is perfect scenarios with this team. IMO even in that case I don’t see anything more. This team blows even in perfect world.

In perfect world this team has

No top line

They would be a team with a 2nd line maybe a 3rd line and a couple 4th lines

A average maybe slightly better than average starting goalie and no back up

And a d setup of a 2nd pair and a 3rd pair and a pair that shouldn’t be more than injury replacement

In a stacked division and conference.

That’s maybe 25-30 wins on the season and with coaching maybe eek out 5-8 ot loser points. Maybe slightly better. Cant see how even in perfect world they get any higher than 75 points. At absolute best

- Stayin alive

One thing to keep in mind is the Flyers will very likely be facing the backup up goalie an awful lot. That may skew their point totals.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Aug 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
thought I'd check in on the board. I see ~Love is the Air~.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
I think it's about 90% that Ellis is never going to play again.
- MJL

Ok dippy 90%.



So if he DOES PLAY when?

Since you attack my timeline
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
States Ellis didn’t play last year

Ellis DID play

Tried to twist “how can someone be wrong for asking question”

Wonders why called fraud and dippy.








NEVER JUST ADMITS WAS WRONG



SOCIOPATH

- Stayin alive


So you didn't understand what I meant in saying that Ellis didn't play last year?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Aug 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
thought I'd check in on the board. I see ~Love is the Air~.
- Flybynight88


It has been a full afternoon of diligent love making.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
No offense but you really are stupid.

The only thing I've used to discredit your claim that it was a DONE DEAL is that it wasn't a DONE DEAL. Not hard to figure out!


There is no such things as a DONE DEAL until a contract is signed! How do you not understand that? I believe 100% that the Flyers were Gaudreau's first choice. I believe 100% that Fletcher wanted to sign Gaudreau. I believed the talked about the guidelines of a deal during the period when teams were allowed to talk to UFA's

As far as the semantics is concerned. What I'm referring to is that Fletcher never sent a formal contract offer to Gaudreau because he could not clear the cap space. So therefore, he is using semantics to say he was "never in" on Gaudreau.

Here is ultimately what you don't get. Even though it has been explained to you countless times. If you had just said that there is strong interest on both sides and the Flyers are trying to make happen. If they can, Gaudreau will be a Flyer. If you had said that, there would've been no problem.

You didn't do that. You continued to spout it's a DONE DEAL. You embarrassed yourself and you continue to embarrass yourself every single time you come on the site. Today it's some asininely stupid assertion that Ellis just wants to be traded and is going to sit out all this time just to make that happen. All it takes is simple common sense to refute that.

- MJL


Piss off ant that’s not what you did or do. You attacked me calling me a fraud saying what I said was made up. It was never about just DONE DEAL. You called me a liar saying I made it all up. Which is a big 🖕because NO ONE could make that up and you tried to use your back and forth twisting to prove otherwise except you refuse to answer basic questions. That all support exactly what I was told prior to it coming out.

Was there a draft day deal nixed?
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
No offense but you really are stupid.

The only thing I've used to discredit your claim that it was a DONE DEAL is that it wasn't a DONE DEAL. Not hard to figure out!


There is no such things as a DONE DEAL until a contract is signed! How do you not understand that? I believe 100% that the Flyers were Gaudreau's first choice. I believe 100% that Fletcher wanted to sign Gaudreau. I believed the talked about the guidelines of a deal during the period when teams were allowed to talk to UFA's

As far as the semantics is concerned. What I'm referring to is that Fletcher never sent a formal contract offer to Gaudreau because he could not clear the cap space. So therefore, he is using semantics to say he was "never in" on Gaudreau.

Here is ultimately what you don't get. Even though it has been explained to you countless times. If you had just said that there is strong interest on both sides and the Flyers are trying to make happen. If they can, Gaudreau will be a Flyer. If you had said that, there would've been no problem.

You didn't do that. You continued to spout it's a DONE DEAL. You embarrassed yourself and you continue to embarrass yourself every single time you come on the site. Today it's some asininely stupid assertion that Ellis just wants to be traded and is going to sit out all this time just to make that happen. All it takes is simple common sense to refute that.

- MJL

Don't believe that at all. Chucks actions confirm this imo.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
No offense but you really are stupid.

The only thing I've used to discredit your claim that it was a DONE DEAL is that it wasn't a DONE DEAL. Not hard to figure out!


There is no such things as a DONE DEAL until a contract is signed! How do you not understand that? I believe 100% that the Flyers were Gaudreau's first choice. I believe 100% that Fletcher wanted to sign Gaudreau. I believed the talked about the guidelines of a deal during the period when teams were allowed to talk to UFA's

As far as the semantics is concerned. What I'm referring to is that Fletcher never sent a formal contract offer to Gaudreau because he could not clear the cap space. So therefore, he is using semantics to say he was "never in" on Gaudreau.

Here is ultimately what you don't get. Even though it has been explained to you countless times. If you had just said that there is strong interest on both sides and the Flyers are trying to make happen. If they can, Gaudreau will be a Flyer. If you had said that, there would've been no problem.

You didn't do that. You continued to spout it's a DONE DEAL. You embarrassed yourself and you continue to embarrass yourself every single time you come on the site. Today it's some asininely stupid assertion that Ellis just wants to be traded and is going to sit out all this time just to make that happen. All it takes is simple common sense to refute that.

- MJL

Also dippy I never said Ellis sat out all this time solely because he didn’t want to play here twit.

I said he was injured. He clearly needed to heal. WE DONT KNOW THE EXTENT OF INJURIES. IVe always said they go hand in hand.

No desire to leave Nashville
Absolute no desire to play in poopty philly
Nagging injuries need time to heal
Maybe surgery
Body heals
Mind heals
Resumes playing
Request trade

Been consistent from day 1 with all that.


Per usual it’s you that try to twist something into narrative to fit your wrong assumptions. I’m your dippy brain it became he sits out 1 and a half years because he doesn’t want to play in Philly

Wrong
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:15 PM ET
So you didn't understand what I meant in saying that Ellis didn't play last year?
- MJL

Not even a surprise that you’d state that. I understood exactly what you wrote

“He didn’t play last year”


And it’s wrong when you wrote it
It’s wrong first time you tried to defend that statement

It’s wrong this time to

And it’ll be wrong every time you twist and try to change it
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:16 PM ET
One thing to keep in mind is the Flyers will very likely be facing the backup up goalie an awful lot. That may skew their point totals.
- furio16

Funniest part. They almost always lose to poopty backups. Lol
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Aug 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
Playing 10-12 games does not convince anyone he is healthy enough.

Never mind the long term contract.

- furio16

Ok. Even if no one traded at deadline.

Say he comes back plays 30-40 games. Trade in off season?
Rliable
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blackwood, NJ
Joined: 02.19.2013

Aug 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
And here comes the fraud.

Ok dippy.

Put your exact prediction down.

What happens with Ellis does he come back?

If so when?

Does he stay in Philly?

- Stayin alive


I think we're all more interested in what your cousin says about it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Piss off ant that’s not what you did or do. You attacked me calling me a fraud saying what I said was made up. It was never about just DONE DEAL. You called me a liar saying I made it all up. Which is a big 🖕because NO ONE could make that up and you tried to use your back and forth twisting to prove otherwise except you refuse to answer basic questions. That all support exactly what I was told prior to it coming out.

Was there a draft day deal nixed?

- Stayin alive


100% you made up that it was a done deal. That was painfully obvious the first day you posted it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
Not even a surprise that you’d state that. I understood exactly what you wrote

“He didn’t play last year”


And it’s wrong when you wrote it
It’s wrong first time you tried to defend that statement

It’s wrong this time to

And it’ll be wrong every time you twist and try to change it

- Stayin alive


You're right, he played 4 games last season. Now did you understand what I was talking about when I said he didn't play last season and what was meant?
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