4th lines do not matter on this team. Actually 3 players with no upside, you forgot ZM.
- furio16

Is this what you think I said or did you say you want a fourth line that drives play offensively on a team that has no lines that can drive play offensively?

Feanor has been here all morning, you have yet to ask the big question you’re avoiding

Frost is gonna be just fine.

Just hoping he breaks out as a Flyer, and not with another team.

He was a terrible college football coach at Baylor.
- furio16

He was an outstanding center for the Eagles.

Frost is gonna be just fine.

Just hoping he breaks out as a Flyer, and not with another team.
- Tomahawk

If he left, I don’t think there would be some awakening. What are you considering breaking out? Just an NHL regular?

Is this what you think I said or did you say you want a fourth line that drives play offensively on a team that has no lines that can drive play offensively?

Feanor has been here all morning, you have yet to ask the big question you’re avoiding
- SuperSchennBros

This is just a concept you just can't grasp. The Flyers have in-house players to have a solid 4th line. They will likely choose not to ice a solid 4th line. They do not have the players to help the top 2 lines. So therefor they not should improve the 4th line. That is your logic.

You want the 4th line to be able to defend you said. Well the 4th line as is doesn't do that, they do noting except bleed chances against. If you possess the puck you don't have to defend, you do realize this no?

Avoiding what? How Brown is such a Steller PK guy? They suck with or without Brown on the pk. Why would I ask him a question to begin with? You made the statement up to you to show me these awesome pk stats with Brown

He was a terrible college football coach at Baylor.
- furio16

People luv pointing out the negatives

People luv pointing out the negatives
- WhiskeyMan

I would really love a chocolate soda right now. That would hit the spot.

If he left, I don’t think there would be some awakening. What are you considering breaking out? Just an NHL regular?
- ClaudeFather

Something along the lines of a Vinny Prospal.

Something along the lines of a Vinny Prospal.
- Tomahawk

It's surprising but Vinny Prospal really had a solid career.

What an awful trade that was for Daigle.

Something along the lines of a Vinny Prospal.
- Tomahawk

So a very solid player. Not shutting the book on the kid, more tempering expectations, see him right under that. Maybe a 40-45 point guy
Edit : an occasional 50ish for a good year

So a very solid player. Not shutting the book on the kid, more tempering expectations, see him right under that. Maybe a 40-45 point guy
Edit : an occasional 50ish for a good year
- ClaudeFather

If he turns into a 40-45 guy then the Flyers did well imo.

This is just a concept you just can't grasp. The Flyers have in-house players to have a solid 4th line. They will likely choose not to ice a solid 4th line. They do not have the players to help the top 2 lines. So therefor they not should improve the 4th line. That is your logic.

You want the 4th line to be able to defend you said. Well the 4th line as is doesn't do that, they do noting except bleed chances against. If you possess the puck you don't have to defend, you do realize this no?

Avoiding what? How Brown is such a Steller PK guy? They suck with or without Brown on the pk. Why would I ask him a question to begin with? You made the statement up to you to show me these awesome pk stats with Brown
- furio16

If we can get any line to play with possession at even strength and drive offense, they’ll likely become our best line. I don’t know if the Flyers can dress a solid fourth line anymore then you do. I don’t know if Allison can stay healthy or what Tanner might look like for long stretch of games. They do have an opportunity to win a job during training camp though.

If he turns into a 40-45 guy then the Flyers did well imo.
- furio16

We are talking the second coming of Giroux here lol.

So a very solid player. Not shutting the book on the kid, more tempering expectations, see him right under that. Maybe a 40-45 point guy
Edit : an occasional 50ish for a good year
- ClaudeFather

As a player that is not likely to be a player that contributes strongly in other areas. I'd like to see more point production than that out of a 1st round pick.

What an awful trade that was for Daigle.
- MJL

Still can't decide who gave fewer (frank)s while they were here... Daigle or Brendl.

People luv pointing out the negatives
- WhiskeyMan

One Sunday he farted in church.

If we can get any line to play with possession at even strength and drive offense, they’ll likely become our best line. I don’t know if the Flyers can dress a solid fourth line anymore then you do. I don’t know if Allison can stay healthy or what Tanner might look like for long stretch of games. They do have an opportunity to win a job during training camp though.
- SuperSchennBros

The point is they need to find out. They have much more upside than the other 3. If they cant cut it then so be it you at least know now.

I disagree and do not think they will have a legit opportunity. That means Chuck will have to work and actually make a roster decision. IMO I do not see either one on the opening night roster. Though that depends on how Ratcliff plays.

As a player that is not likely to be a player that contributes strongly in other areas. I'd like to see more point production than that out of a 1st round pick.
- MJL

What is the average point production in the NHL for players drafted in his spot? 40-45 would be a win for the Flyers if Frost becomes that.

The point is they need to find out. They have much more upside than the other 3. If they cant cut it then so be it you at least know now.

I disagree and do not think they will have a legit opportunity. That means Chuck will have to work and actually make a roster decision. IMO I do not see either one on the opening night roster. Though that depends on how Ratcliff plays.
- furio16

Ok this post I can’t and won’t argue but like I said, I don’t know if the alternative of Tanner over Brown will improve the fourth line. I have no idea.

I would really love a chocolate soda right now. That would hit the spot.
- furio16

Dude died and you go negative right away!

Ok this post I can’t and won’t argue but like I said, I don’t know if the alternative of Tanner over Brown will improve the fourth line. I have no idea.
- SuperSchennBros

Would you rather take the chance to play Tanner or play Brown? Knowing what type of season this is very likely going to be.

Dude died and you go negative right away!
- WhiskeyMan

There's always going to be some clown that needlessly pi$$3es on a dead man's grave. Just make sure you don't join his circus. Ignore him.

What is the average point production in the NHL for players drafted in his spot? 40-45 would be a win for the Flyers if Frost becomes that.
- furio16

Just going back to 2010

2010 Mark Visentin 1 game played total
2011 Vlad Namestikov 236 points in 10 seasons
2012 Henrick Samuelson 3 game splayed
2013 Marko Dano 45 points in 141 games
2014 Nikolay Goldobin 46 points in 125 games
2015 Jacob Larsson 24 points in 165 games
2016 Brett Howden 69 points in 225 games
2017 Morgan Frost 23 points in 77 games
2018 Nicolas Beaudin 6 points in 22 games
2019 Nolan Foote 6 points in 13 games
2020 Jacob Perreault 1 game played
2021 no games played
2022 no games played


Maybe we need to temper our expectations a bit.

Just going back to 2010

2010 Mark Visentin 1 game played total
2011 Vlad Namestikov 236 points in 10 seasons
2012 Henrick Samuelson 3 game splayed
2013 Marko Dano 45 points in 141 games
2014 Nikolay Goldobin 46 points in 125 games
2015 Jacob Larsson 24 points in 165 games
2016 Brett Howden 69 points in 225 games
2017 Morgan Frost 23 points in 77 games
2018 Nicolas Beaudin 6 points in 22 games
2019 Nolan Foote 6 points in 13 games
2020 Jacob Perreault 1 game played
2021 no games played
2022 no games played


Maybe we need to temper our expectations a bit.
- MBFlyerfan

Your logic has no place here. If Tampa can find Kucherov late in the draft...then by God we need to do the same darn thing!

Just going back to 2010

2010 Mark Visentin 1 game played total
2011 Vlad Namestikov 236 points in 10 seasons
2012 Henrick Samuelson 3 game splayed
2013 Marko Dano 45 points in 141 games
2014 Nikolay Goldobin 46 points in 125 games
2015 Jacob Larsson 24 points in 165 games
2016 Brett Howden 69 points in 225 games
2017 Morgan Frost 23 points in 77 games
2018 Nicolas Beaudin 6 points in 22 games
2019 Nolan Foote 6 points in 13 games
2020 Jacob Perreault 1 game played
2021 no games played
2022 no games played


Maybe we need to temper our expectations a bit.
- MBFlyerfan

Without a doubt. I want to see him play 75 games or so. Obviously want him to produce points wise though lets see how he plays overall.

He gets 40+ points would be a home run at this juncture.