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HenryHockey
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Location: Gwinn, MI Joined: 01.26.2020
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Lou paying for potential over results. |
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Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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I understand why the Isles did what they did. However, I think this was an over payment. His Contract should be at most 8.25 per. He is not the guy that can put a team on his back. If the Isles want that guy they better upgrade their wings around him. |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Fair market considering the other deals being signed. Though it hasn't shown up in pts as much I think he's a player that can be built around, possible steal if this coaching change works in his favour. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I understand why the Isles did what they did. However, I think this was an over payment. His Contract should be at most 8.25 per. He is not the guy that can put a team on his back. If the Isles want that guy they better upgrade their wings around him. - Nfdbulldawg
I think in the 8 mill range would have been better. Barzal is a fine player but he is not on Crosby's level or even JT's level. Barzal was not drafted #1 overall like they were. Nothing embarrassing with Barzal needing better talent around him.
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It’s a solid signing, couldn’t let him walk for free like Tavares did, but didn’t take a team friendly deal, and he doesn’t even have the worst 9 mil contract in the NHL.
Jeff Skinner in Buffalo holds that title even after his rebound season. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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I think in the 8 mill range would have been better. Barzal is a fine player but he is not on Crosby's level or even JT's level. Barzal was not drafted #1 overall like they were. Nothing embarrassing with Barzal needing better talent around him. - ses111
I’m hoping he has a strong season and makes it look great. I think he’s going to have a good season. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I’m hoping he has a strong season and makes it look great. I think he’s going to have a good season. - Cptmjl
Hopefully Barzal has a strong season Cpt. I just do not see monster numbers and especially with the defensive system the Isles will likely still play. The Isles do not seem to be built for big offensive numbers overall. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Hopefully Barzal has a strong season Cpt. I just do not see monster numbers and especially with the defensive system the Isles will likely still play. The Isles do not seem to be built for big offensive numbers overall. - ses111
He needs/we need him to be a consistent 80 point player. He’s capable the kid has incredible talent. He’ll breakout it’s just a question of when imo. |
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nyisles7
New York Islanders |
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Location: Wrong timing, NY Joined: 01.20.2009
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Lou paying for potential over results. - HenryHockey
Lou is Magical |
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niteislander
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 01.13.2010
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Barzal is the best player I have seen in an Islander's jersey in 20 years. He is exciting every time he is on the ice. He has elite talent and will continue to improve as he gets older barring injury.... It's a great deal for Islanders and anyone saying differently doesn't watch him enough... I expected a double digit number if they went 8 years. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Barzal is the best player I have seen in an Islander's jersey in 20 years. He is exciting every time he is on the ice. He has elite talent and will continue to improve as he gets older barring injury.... It's a great deal for Islanders and anyone saying differently doesn't watch him enough... I expected a double digit number if they went 8 years. - niteislander
You were expecting 10 million plus per year? |
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Fan101
New York Islanders |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 07.08.2007
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He is the young player they can continue to build the young core around while still maintaining the older core on their older contracts. Hope is the younger draftees will step into forward spots in near future. Good move by Lou and ownership to look to future and Barzal wants to be here. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Lots of cuts coming today |
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Lots of cuts coming today - eichiefs9
But is today “the day!”? |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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But is today “the day!”? - Wildschwein
I can confirm that today is a day |
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UIF
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 01.09.2009
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I guess I'm surprised so many don't see Barzal as a $9m/yr player in this league. I think any team in need of a 1C would gladly pay that for him, and, frankly, I'd take Barzal over quite a few centers out there who are making from $9.5m/yr to $11m.
I guess if you're just looking at point totals, that explains it. But the Isles are...well...sort of unique with how they approach the whole offense thing. Just like goalies get an "Islander bump" to their stats because of the system the team plays, I think forwards get somewhat of an "Islander penalty." |
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Leniwm1
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Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: 02.24.2015
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Lou paying for potential over results. - HenryHockey
Thats literally every GM with every contract. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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I guess I'm surprised so many don't see Barzal as a $9m/yr player in this league. I think any team in need of a 1C would gladly pay that for him, and, frankly, I'd take Barzal over quite a few centers out there who are making from $9.5m/yr to $11m.
I guess if you're just looking at point totals, that explains it. But the Isles are...well...sort of unique with how they approach the whole offense thing. Just like goalies get an "Islander bump" to their stats because of the system the team plays, I think forwards get somewhat of an "Islander penalty." - UIF
His point totals aren't even remotely bad, unless someone just looked at his actual totals without taking into account games played.
Going by points per game:
2017-18: 1.04
2018-19: .76
2019-20: .88
2020-21: .82
2021-22: .81
It may not make him a top superstar, but he's still a star player that's been playing under a coach that played a very defense-first system. With a little more freedom and, hopefully, some better talent on his line eventually...I'd expect his point totals to rise to where they probably should be |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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I guess I'm surprised so many don't see Barzal as a $9m/yr player in this league. I think any team in need of a 1C would gladly pay that for him, and, frankly, I'd take Barzal over quite a few centers out there who are making from $9.5m/yr to $11m.
I guess if you're just looking at point totals, that explains it. But the Isles are...well...sort of unique with how they approach the whole offense thing. Just like goalies get an "Islander bump" to their stats because of the system the team plays, I think forwards get somewhat of an "Islander penalty." - UIF
I think it is the points UIF and the Isles do play a very unique defensive system which makes offense more of a challenge. We saw the same thing with Barry's Preds teams.
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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His point totals aren't even remotely bad, unless someone just looked at his actual totals without taking into account games played.
Going by points per game:
2017-18: 1.04
2018-19: .76
2019-20: .88
2020-21: .82
2021-22: .81
It may not make him a top superstar, but he's still a star player that's been playing under a coach that played a very defense-first system. With a little more freedom and, hopefully, some better talent on his line eventually...I'd expect his point totals to rise to where they probably should be - eichiefs9
Have to agree chief. We are not suppose to talk about more talent needed on the Islanders though.
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Lots of cuts coming today - eichiefs9
Cold?
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Lou paying for potential over results. - HenryHockey
Eh. Tough to see "Potential" when the guy is 25. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Andrew Gross @AGrossNewsday
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So, if my math is right (and it usually isn't), #Isles cut down from 44 to 29(ish)
Looks like Raty, Dufour, Holmstrom, Durandeau, Schneider, Wotherspoon among those headed to Bridgeport (AHL) |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Eh. Tough to see "Potential" when the guy is 25. - BINGO!
Yes he practically needs a walker to get around these days |
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