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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 6:43 PM ET
Only if it is an unprotected '23 1st.
Then Buyout 7/15/2023:
▪Cash owed from 7/15/2023 Buyout = total of $1.7m
▪'23-24 Cap hit $2.8m
▪'2r-25 Cap hit $0.8m

"Winning"

Could you imagine getting the 2-OA pick as a result...Fantelli here we come!

- IonSabres

Or you can do this, but don't think he's that bad, just a bad situation.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Only if it is an unprotected '23 1st.
Then Buyout 7/15/2023:
▪Cash owed from 7/15/2023 Buyout = total of $1.7m
▪'23-24 Cap hit $2.8m
▪'2r-25 Cap hit $0.8m

"Winning"

Could you imagine getting the 2-OA pick as a result...Fantelli here we come!

- IonSabres

Be amazing, would be weird for them to not put some protection on it. His contract is only 1 more year.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
Yeah, if I can get Ottawa's 1st or even there 2nd this and next year. I think I would do it. He's very serviceable
- Buff36


Are they really paying that much to get rid of a guy they could simply buyout after the season?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
Are they really paying that much to get rid of a guy they could simply buyout after the season?
- Lunaion

I would be surprised, but that's what is being reported. Must want Chychrun
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
Don't think we want any of are D constantly playing 25min a night, still a long season
- Buff36


Interesting conversation on this...
3 Pairings, how do you break it down between the 3?

1st = 24
2nd = 20
3rd = 16
Is that about right?

Roughly right:
Dahlin gets 20 EV + 4 PP
Samuelsson gets 20 EV + 4 PK
Power gets18 EV + 2 PP
2RhD gets 16 + 4 PK
3rd LhD & 3rd RhD get 14 + 2 PK

lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 6:56 PM ET
Interesting conversation on this...
3 Pairings, how do you break it down between the 3?

1st = 24
2nd = 20
3rd = 16
Is that about right?

Roughly right:
Dahlin gets 20 EV + 4 PP
Samuelsson gets 20 EV + 4 PK
Power gets18 EV + 2 PP
2RhD gets 16 + 4 PK
3rd LhD & 3rd RhD get 14 + 2 PK

- IonSabres


In any big game with a tight score Dahlin is playing 25 or more. Closer to 30 I'd imagine.



Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 6:57 PM ET
Interesting conversation on this...
3 Pairings, how do you break it down between the 3?

1st = 24
2nd = 20
3rd = 16
Is that about right?

Roughly right:
Dahlin gets 20 EV + 4 PP
Samuelsson gets 20 EV + 4 PK
Power gets18 EV + 2 PP
2RhD gets 16 + 4 PK
3rd LhD & 3rd RhD get 14 + 2 PK

- IonSabres

Sounds about right, and then on those nights your Offense is humming you can adjust ice times to ease ice time to your 1st pair
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 1 @ 6:58 PM ET
I would be surprised, but that's what is being reported. Must want Chychrun
- Buff36


Don’t help Ottawa if they don’t want to pay up.


I still think it’s a bad idea 👎. He has 1 year left after this one
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:00 PM ET
Time to avoid the dreaded "let down" game.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 1 @ 7:02 PM ET
Welp... ive watched three Sens games this year not against Buffalo, and he doesnt really stand out to me as anything. Which doesn't mean much, but when I look at his stats, he doesn't look like an impactful player since he was in Toronto. And, as is known, I'm not nearly as down on Joker as the rest of the board. I think he's fairly good.

I could take him on the team, sure, but he replacing a 3rd pair guy to me. If we're really bringing in a defenseman better than Joker or Clague then it has to be Chychrun to me as far as quality.

- lacaprup


There is an ocean of space between say Joker and Chic-fil-a. If you are bringing in Chycrun at $4.5m, it isnt as a 3rd pairing, and he isnt as good on the right to be the 2RhD IMO.
Let us please let go of the Chic idea...especially for the asset cost to acquire.
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Jan 1 @ 7:03 PM ET
Check this picture. He pinched because he could and Marchand was 6th skater for a bit to get that open with his breakaway starting with the 6th skater still on the ice by a few feet. Should not have counted….

https://twitter.com/pham1...&t=gf_-jH-QyTZ_Jsonz9Op1g

- Lilroot9


I hear you but look at Sammy bottom right of that picture. If your partner just pinched on that side you can’t be there. If he stays middle he either breaks up the pass to the rat or it’s a 1 on 1 instead of a breakaway.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:04 PM ET
There is an ocean of space between say Joker and Chic-fil-a. If you are bringing in Chycrun at $4.5m, it isnt as a 3rd pairing, and he isnt as good on the right to be the 2RhD IMO.
Let us please let go of the Chic idea...especially for the asset cost to acquire.

- IonSabres


I agree there is. If I'm upgrading from Joker...im upgrading. I'm not going hunting for someone who may or may not be an upgrade. I don't want Chychrun anyway because he is too injured over his career, but that is the quality level of upgrade I want if that's what we're doing.

I would he fine getting a 3rd pairing guy for a draft pick or less.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:06 PM ET
Does Tage kind of have a Ronald McDonald look?
Chris16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CT
Joined: 06.22.2012

Jan 1 @ 7:08 PM ET
Does Tage kind of have a Ronald McDonald look?
- lacaprup


No but Cody Eakin did.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 7:10 PM ET
Well that sucks
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
Sammy... stay on your feet kid.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
I would be surprised, but that's what is being reported. Must want Chychrun
- Buff36


Already a strange D corps, 2 1LD, 3 3RD. Adding a 4th creates a mess.

Any trade they make really needs to move someone out.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
Time to avoid the dreaded "let down" game.
- lacaprup

oooopppsssss
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
Looks like Ottawa came to play. Better get the lead out, boys.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
Already a strange D corps, 2 1LD, 3 3RD. Adding a 4th creates a mess.

Any trade they make really needs to move someone out.

- Lunaion

Very well could, I want the pick
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
Good look by the Krebs line.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
Nice chance created by Krebs.

Sabres hopefully settled things down. Ottawa isn't as good as Buffalo.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 1 @ 7:15 PM ET
Quinn and Paterka going through roookie droughts.
lacaprup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.23.2006

Jan 1 @ 7:16 PM ET
Nice chance created by Krebs.

Sabres hopefully settled things down. Ottawa isn't as good as Buffalo.

- sabresfan69


I agree, but it’s still well in doubt. They have every right to be as optimistic as us.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
Stay in front Olofsson
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