Optics matter here. The league can't do something that would make them look like monsters.
- Lunaion

the only they do not look like monsters is to give both teams a win


more chaos

the only they do not look like monsters is to give both teams a win


more chaos
- homiedclown

Wasn't a result, just treat it that way.

Wasn't a result, just treat it that way.
- Lunaion

then you give the chiefs the 1 seed and baltimore no chance to win their division


the nfl is in a no win situation

Optics matter here. The league can't do something that would make them look like monsters.
- Lunaion

IMO it'll be a tie/no contest. Which IMO I think is ridiculous as games were played 12 days after 9/11.

then you give the chiefs the 1 seed and baltimore no chance to win their division


the nfl is in a no win situation
- homiedclown

Is it the same outcome whether it is declared a tie or no contest?

then you give the chiefs the 1 seed and baltimore no chance to win their division


the nfl is in a no win situation
- homiedclown

They really, really are. If they tell the bills they have to play, they are insensitive. If the award a tie, it messes with standings artificially same if they just cancel the game altogether.

that's why I said I only see two options, play or Forfeit. And if I am the Bills I would absolutely Forfeit.

Only other option is to cancel the rest of the season. I HIGHLY doubt that happens...

best case is Hamlin wakes up OK and all the pressure is off. I'll pray again now

Is it the same outcome whether it is declared a tie or no contest?
- DirtyDan

yup because the chiefs will have played that extra game so their win percentage will be higher



the only way to have a real number 1 seed and baltimore to have a real legit chance to win the afc north is to finish the game

Is it the same outcome whether it is declared a tie or no contest?
- DirtyDan

A tie counts as a half a win and so would improve your win percentage technically speaking. I'm not sure it makes a difference as far as where the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals are at, but theoretically, it could in the standings.

There is also the question: "what precedent do we want to set for the future?". I have no idea what the answer to that question is.

They really, really are. If they tell the bills they have to play, they are insensitive. If the award a tie, it messes with standings artificially same if they just cancel the game altogether.

that's why I said I only see two options, play or Forfeit. And if I am the Bills I would absolutely Forfeit.

Only other option is to cancel the rest of the season. I HIGHLY doubt that happens...

best case is Hamlin wakes up OK and all the pressure is off. I'll pray again now
- hehateme

I’d be absolutely fine if the Bills players/coaches decided they didn’t have it in them to play the rest of the season.

I’m simply a fan and last night tore me apart. I have no interest in watching football right now

that's why I said I only see two options, play or Forfeit. And if I am the Bills I would absolutely Forfeit.


- hehateme

I think if given time off, the bills would rather finish the game for hamlin vs forfeiting


if they accept a forfeit the result of what happened to hamlin is for nothing

then you give the chiefs the 1 seed and baltimore no chance to win their division


the nfl is in a no win situation
- homiedclown

The NFL cannot declare a forfeit unless a team refuses to play.

So the likely scenario is they play week 18 as normal and add another week to finish the game. They can't schedule it for the Thursday after week 18 because all teams in the playoffs require at least a 6 day rest before their next playoff game.

Bills can either decide to not play and take the forfeit or finish the game out, that is of course unless the league declares a no contest to which could cause an uproar with the Ravens should they win this week. My thought is both Taylor and McDermott would agree to a no contest as so would their teams after what happened last night but that is just my personal opinion.

The NFL is really in a very difficult spot here and all I can say is I wouldn't want to be the one to make this decision.

IMO it'll be a tie/no contest. Which IMO I think is ridiculous as games were played 12 days after 9/11.
- DirtyDan

just objectively look at the situation, I think the NFL has no choice but to re-schedule the game. if the bills choose to Forfeit then so be it. I would be fine with it.

A tie counts as a half a win and so would improve your win percentage technically speaking. I'm not sure it makes a difference as far as where the Chiefs, Bills and Bengals are at, but theoretically, it could in the standings.

There is also the question: "what precedent do we want to set for the future?". I have no idea what the answer to that question is.
- buffalofan19

when the teams are over .500 the team lowers the win percentage with a tie


you are using sabres math based on losing seasons

I’d be absolutely fine if the Bills players/coaches decided they didn’t have it in them to play the rest of the season.

I’m simply a fan and last night tore me apart. I have no interest in watching football right now
- sbroads24

I am right there with you

just objectively look at the situation, I think the NFL has no choice but to re-schedule the game. if the bills choose to Forfeit then so be it. I would be fine with it.
- hehateme

if the bills forfeit then Hamlin is laying in a bed for nothing

when the teams are over .500 the team lowers the win percentage with a tie


you are using sabres math based on losing seasons
- homiedclown

Actually, I was using this.

https://cbsic.force.com/f...for-winning-percentage-FB

just objectively look at the situation, I think the NFL has no choice but to re-schedule the game. if the bills choose to Forfeit then so be it. I would be fine with it.
- hehateme

I agree with both statements.

if the bills forfeit then Hamlin is laying in a bed for nothing
- homiedclown

I have never seen football players openly sobbing. How many times do you think they have seen a teammate die on the field then have CPR and AED used to bring them back to life? I bet it is traumatizing to those players. I was shook last night and still am and I am just a fan.

Actually, I was using this.

https://cbsic.force.com/f...for-winning-percentage-FB
- buffalofan19

chargers are 10-6 and their win percentage is .625
giants are 9--6-1 and their win percentage is ..594
9-7 wound be .562

I’d be absolutely fine if the Bills players/coaches decided they didn’t have it in them to play the rest of the season.

I’m simply a fan and last night tore me apart. I have no interest in watching football right now
- sbroads24

If they don't have it in them to return this season why would they have it in them to return in 6 months?

I thought they went from 2 weeks to 1 week between title games and super bowl after 9.11
- homiedclown

I think that’s how it went. I think he’s saying the League (and most definitely the host city) doesn’t want to lose the build up hype week before the actual “game week”.

That’s what will probably happen, though.

chargers are 10-6 and their win percentage is .625
giants are 9--6-1 and their win percentage is ..594
9-7 wound be .562
- homiedclown

Right, so the tie did increase the Giants' win percentage by the equivalent of half a win.

If the Chiefs had 4 losses instead of 3, the Bills would benefit with the tie.

I have never seen football players openly sobbing. How many times do you think they have seen a teammate die on the field then have CPR and AED used to bring them back to life? I bet it is traumatizing to those players. I was shook last night and still am and I am just a fan.
- hehateme

they were numb this morning on good morning football

almost everyone is



when a firefighter dies, they do not shut the firestation down
same for police officers and any pretty much any other profession

maybe the bills will be flat sunday, maybe come out like a bull in a china shop

nobody knows

I agree with both statements.
- DirtyDan

Agreed, a whole different experience when you see something like that unfold in front of your eyes. Not a easy thing for people to just put aside.

IMO it'll be a tie/no contest. Which IMO I think is ridiculous as games were played 12 days after 9/11.
- DirtyDan

9/11 was a National Tragedy