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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
Moneypuck odds have us at 50% for playoffs.

Adams needs to go get this team another horse.

- sbroads24


50% seems high, just like this from Evolving Hockey feels low.

Not to be a downer, but in reference to the MoneyPuck playoff odds that are going around - EH sees things way differently for the #Sabres.

I’d say this is a bit pessimistic, but the truth is likely somewhere in between this, and the crazy 50.8% MP number that’s floating around.

People are taking this like I don’t think they can make it. I absolutely do, and have said as much.

I’m just presenting the wild variation between models right now and stating I feel the real odds are somewhere in the middle. 🤷🏻‍♂️



https://twitter.com/Expec...KouTrcEVK3nWl9qpZhWg&s=19
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:19 PM ET
Isnt Girgensons kinda our 3 lw with some grit currently?

5 game win streak

Lines 3 and 4 are interchangeable IMO

- Boss34


Mitts line is an albatross. Checking line is adequate. Nothing interchangeable about them. Polar opposites.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 30 @ 1:21 PM ET
girgs should be F13
- SabresFaninIndiana


Clearly you didn't watch yesterday's game.

1st okposo, now girgensons?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
And that is fine, but that still leaves Kulich Savoie Rousek Murray(doubt it) that could be ready.
- Buff36


They slow play all their prospects.

Are either of Savoie or Kulich having a season like either of Peterka or Quinn did last season?

Does it seem like Murray is in their short or long term plans?

Only player I could see is Rousek.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Dec 30 @ 1:23 PM ET
Clearly you didn't watch yesterday's game.

1st okposo, now girgensons?

- Boss34

a. no i did not
b. 1 game does not a season make
c. kyle is old and slow and the team wants to play fast
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:24 PM ET
Rosen feels like he still needs a lot of playing time and development in terms of continuing to fill out his frame.

I doubt they have any NHL plans for him next season aside from injury call ups.

- kingcong39


I'd just say that these guys are close enough that you really don't want bottom 6 fixtures who are grandfathered their lineup spots.

KA talks a lot about not blocking guys, then does a pretty good job of blocking them, so nothing would surprise me.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:25 PM ET
I want the original socks back with all the stripes. Classic.


- Chris16

Omg yes please
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:25 PM ET
They slow play all their prospects.

Are either of Savoie or Kulich having a season like either of Peterka or Quinn did last season?

Does it seem like Murray is in their short or long term plans?

Only player I could see is Rousek.

- kingcong39

Kulich is pretty close to JJ right now. JJ exploded after the new year last year. Savoie is a weird situation
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:28 PM ET
Kulich is pretty close to JJ right now. JJ exploded after the new year last year. Savoie is a weird situation
- Buff36


Kulich is also doing it at 18. Plenty of reason to think he's miles ahead of them in development.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
50% seems high, just like this from Evolving Hockey feels low.

Not to be a downer, but in reference to the MoneyPuck playoff odds that are going around - EH sees things way differently for the #Sabres.

I’d say this is a bit pessimistic, but the truth is likely somewhere in between this, and the crazy 50.8% MP number that’s floating around.

People are taking this like I don’t think they can make it. I absolutely do, and have said as much.

I’m just presenting the wild variation between models right now and stating I feel the real odds are somewhere in the middle. 🤷🏻‍♂️



https://twitter.com/Expec...KouTrcEVK3nWl9qpZhWg&s=19

- kingcong39


Sabres are going to play meaningful games down the stretch then win one of the lottos and walk out of this years draft with one of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, or Michkov.

Then we can plan the parade route for later this decade.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'd just say that these guys are close enough that you really don't want bottom 6 fixtures who are grandfathered their lineup spots.

KA talks a lot about not blocking guys, then does a pretty good job of blocking them, so nothing would surprise me.

- Lunaion


You and I both think the big year is the 24-25 season.

It's why they're positioned to do little again next offseason aside from signing a couple of forwards to one year deals, so they're not blocking the forward prospects in the 24-25 season.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 1:35 PM ET
Sabres are going to play meaningful games down the stretch then win one of the lottos and walk out of this years draft with one of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, or Michkov.

Then we can plan the parade route for later this decade.

- Swedish_Jesus

We have much higher odds of playoffs than winning the lottery at this point
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
Kulich is also doing it at 18. Plenty of reason to think he's miles ahead of them in development.
- Lunaion

People forget to, he already played 2yrs in a men's league before even being drafted.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Dec 30 @ 1:42 PM ET
a. no i did not
b. 1 game does not a season make
c. kyle is old and slow and the team wants to play fast

- SabresFaninIndiana


Of course 😀😀😀
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:45 PM ET
We have much higher odds of playoffs than winning the lottery at this point
- sbroads24


I’ve said it from the very beginning of the offseason, and doubled down during the 8 game losing streak, that I felt the Sabres were not going to be a bottom 10 team this year and so far so good.

Playing meaningful games down the stretch and be in the race till the very end.

Maybe they do make the playoffs when all said and done, but I’m not going to lose sleep if they don’t.

Next years success will hinge on internal development and whatever moves made in the offseason.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:46 PM ET
? for Lunaion or 39. If Johnson's rights are traded. If he doesn't sign with that team do they get that Comp. Pick in the 2nd or is that wiped when the trade is made. Thanks
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Dec 30 @ 1:47 PM ET
Sabres are going to play meaningful games down the stretch then win one of the lottos and walk out of this years draft with one of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, or Michkov.

Then we can plan the parade route for later this decade.

- Swedish_Jesus


I'd be pumped if they were able to draft Andrew Cristall with their 1st round pick.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:49 PM ET
You and I both think the big year is the 24-25 season.

It's why they're positioned to do little again next offseason aside from signing a couple of forwards to one year deals, so they're not blocking the forward prospects in the 24-25 season.

- kingcong39


I know we generally agree here, but 36 is right that these kids are coming quicker than expected. Combine that with the deplorable play of VO + Mitts and you do need some change next year.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
I'd be pumped if they were able to draft Andrew Cristall with their 1st round pick.
- kingcong39

MacKenzie has him ranked around 18 I believe.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
? for Lunaion or 39. If Johnson's rights are traded. If he doesn't sign with that team do they get that Comp. Pick in the 2nd or is that wiped when the trade is made. Thanks
- Buff36


Believe it does. Guess you could check the exact wording to be sure.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
Believe it does. Guess you could check the exact wording to be sure.
- Lunaion

Yeah, was gonna do that next, Lazy
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
I’ve said it from the very beginning of the offseason, and doubled down during the 8 game losing streak, that I felt the Sabres were not going to be a bottom 10 team this year and so far so good.

Playing meaningful games down the stretch and be in the race till the very end.

Maybe they do make the playoffs when all said and done, but I’m not going to lose sleep if they don’t.

Next years success will hinge on internal development and whatever moves made in the offseason.

- Swedish_Jesus

You can’t waste a potential Hart finalist season from Thompson and an almost sure fire Norris finalist season from Dahlin. Not to mention career years from 89,53 and a breakout from Cozens.

Adams owes it to legitimately everyone from the players to the fans to do everything possible to make the playoffs.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
You and I both think the big year is the 24-25 season.

It's why they're positioned to do little again next offseason aside from signing a couple of forwards to one year deals, so they're not blocking the forward prospects in the 24-25 season.

- kingcong39

Whether they miss by a few or make it, doing almost nothing will be a terrible look and one that will turn a lot of fans against this management group
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 30 @ 1:56 PM ET
You can’t waste a potential Hart finalist season from Thompson and an almost sure fire Norris finalist season from Dahlin. Not to mention career years from 89,53 and a breakout from Cozens.

Adams owes it to legitimately everyone from the players to the fans to do everything possible to make the playoffs.

- sbroads24

Should really only take a few tweaks
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Dec 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
" The National Hockey League announced today that it has fined the Toronto Maple Leafs’ organization $100,000 for the team’s travel to St. Louis on Dec. 26, 2022. This team activity was in violation of Article 16.5(b) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the NHL and the NHL Players’ Association"

That's just funny.
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