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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
I wonder if they would give both teams a first round bye and do a coin flip for the home field advantage, if it came to it. I just can't imagine them pushing backs weeks of playoffs and the super bowl.

I hate to even be thinking about this.... I just don't want to feel like I felt last night anymore.

- Slump Buster


They actually can’t push back the Super Bowl at this point- that’s pretty much locked in stone

There is a week break between the Championship games & the Super Bowl though
So theoretically the could play the Bills vs Bengals game in why would become week 19
And all the rounds of the playoffs would be pushed back a week

That seems unlikely though
It doesn’t make sense to move around a bunch of games just to play one game
Like i said before, i think the Bills vs Bengals is cancelled & those 2 teams will only play 16games this season
And then the playoff seeding would be determined by winning percentage
*that’s how they were gonna do it during the Covid season if teams couldn’t play the same number of games


But regardless…..
whatever they decide is secondary to the health of Hamlin
Hopefully he’s ok
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
They actually can’t push back the Super Bowl at this point- that’s pretty much locked in stone

There is a week break between the Championship games & the Super Bowl though
So theoretically the could play the Bills vs Bengals game in why would become week 19
And all the rounds of the playoffs would be pushed back a week

That seems unlikely though
It doesn’t make sense to move around a bunch of games just to play one game
Like i said before, i think the Bills vs Bengals is cancelled & those 2 teams will only play 16games this season
And then the playoff seeding would be determined by winning percentage
*that’s how they were gonna do it during the Covid season if teams couldn’t play the same number of games


But regardless…..
whatever they decide is secondary to the health of Hamlin
Hopefully he’s ok

- jdfitz77


I am pretty sure that a tie and a no-contest between the two teams has the same effect in the standings. They neither gain nor lose ground on anyone as it stands now. Win and/or loss, however, would change things.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
I am pretty sure that a tie and a no-contest between the two teams has the same effect in the standings. They neither gain nor lose ground on anyone as it stands now. Win and/or loss, however, would change things.
- buffalofan19



a tie for both teams gives the 2 seed the 1 seed

and baltimore no chance to win the division


https://newstechreview.co...e-week-18-impacts-chiefs/
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:05 PM ET
I am pretty sure that a tie and a no-contest between the two teams has the same effect in the standings. They neither gain nor lose ground on anyone as it stands now. Win and/or loss, however, would change things.
- buffalofan19


If it's a no contest the seeding would be (assuming KC BUF and Cin win week 18) would be KC, BUF, CIN in that order
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
If it's a no contest the seeding would be (assuming KC BUF and Cin win week 18) would be KC, BUF, CIN in that order
- Stripes77


Would a tie change anything? KC still has the best win percentage, don't they?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jan 3 @ 5:09 PM ET
Would a tie change anything? KC still has the best win percentage, don't they?
- buffalofan19


It would stay the same

14-3 would be KC record
13-3-1 would be the Bills
12-4-1 would be the Bengals
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
Would a tie change anything? KC still has the best win percentage, don't they?
- buffalofan19

If I'm understanding what you're asking it would because the denominator changes from no contest (16) to tie (17).
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jan 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
Would a tie change anything? KC still has the best win percentage, don't they?
- buffalofan19


That's the problem - anything solution other than playing all of the games will result in winners and losers being designated on paper. They have to play the full schedule.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:13 PM ET
If I'm understanding what you're asking it would because the denominator changes from no contest (16) to tie (17).
- Hatboro_Swords


Right, but in this case, I don't think it affects any team's seedings. In either the case of a tie or a no contest, all teams win their division (applicable to Cincinnati), and it's KC #1, Buffalo #2, and Cincinnati #3.

I think what makes this thing complicated is the fact that Buffalo and Cincinnati were playing each other and directly fighting for position in the standings. If this happened last week, during the Chicago game, for instance, I think a tie vs. a no contest is a whole different discussion.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 3 @ 5:15 PM ET
Right, but in this case, I don't think it affects any team's seedings. In either the case of a tie or a no contest, all teams win their division (applicable to Cincinnati), and it's KC #1, Buffalo #2, and Cincinnati #3.
- buffalofan19

it knocks buffalo down from 1 to 2 seed and gives batimore no chance to catch the bengals to win the division

TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:20 PM ET
it knocks buffalo down from 1 to 2 seed and gives batimore no chance to catch the bengals to win the division
- homiedclown

Unless either buf or cin forfeits in the next two days they will finish the game. They have to make the decision by Friday when to play it. If they decide to play it next week and push the playoffs back, it's set in stone. Even if one or the other forfeits after this weekends games they cant/won't move the playoffs back up a week if they do indeed decide to move it back in the next few days.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:20 PM ET
it knocks buffalo down from 1 to 2 seed and gives batimore no chance to catch the bengals to win the division
- homiedclown


If the NFL were to say "(frank) it, rest of the season's cancelled, playoffs start next weekend", Buffalo is already the #2 seed, as they were before the game kicked off yesterday. Giving them a tie doesn't change that. KC still has the better win percentage. The Bengals need two losses, one to Buffalo and one to Baltimore in order to not win the AFC North. Neither a tie nor a no-contest helps the Ravens here.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:22 PM ET
If the NFL were to say "(frank) it, rest of the season's cancelled, playoffs start next weekend", Buffalo is already the #2 seed, as they were before the game kicked off yesterday. Giving them a tie doesn't change that. KC still has the better win percentage. The Bengals need two losses, one to Buffalo and one to Baltimore in order to not win the AFC North. Neither a tie nor a no-contest helps the Ravens here.
- buffalofan19

In that case they would discount all games played in week 17, not just the mnf game. Buf would be the 1 seed

Edit: nogguuna happen
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jan 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
Right, but in this case, I don't think it affects any team's seedings. In either the case of a tie or a no contest, all teams win their division (applicable to Cincinnati), and it's KC #1, Buffalo #2, and Cincinnati #3.

I think what makes this thing complicated is the fact that Buffalo and Cincinnati were playing each other and directly fighting for position in the standings. If this happened last week, during the Chicago game, for instance, I think a tie vs. a no contest is a whole different discussion.

- buffalofan19

I agree. It will make things a lot easier if KC beats the Raiders too. If they lose, wow. No way I can see Cincy and Buff conceding the bye and home field throughout.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:27 PM ET
In that case they would discount all games played in week 17, not just the mnf game. Buf would be the 1 seed

Edit: nogguuna happen

- TheHank


I don't think they would. The idea is that, in the Covid year, they had a plan in place to go by win percentage rather than record, which ended up not being necessary because they got all the games in. In this case, they wouldn't get them all in, and they would go by win percentage if it was a no-contest, since Buffalo and Cincinnati would only have played 16 games. In that case, KC still gets the #1 seed. What I am saying is, if you add next week in, and all 3 teams win, the seedings don't change whether you give them a tie or a no contest. KC at 14-3 still has the best record, and Buffalo remains a game ahead of Cincinnati.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:27 PM ET
I agree. It will make things a lot easier if KC beats the Raiders too. If they lose, wow. No way I can see Cincy and Buff conceding the bye and home field throughout.
- Hatboro_Swords

If either of these teams were out of the playoffs I think they just forefit last night and not look back. Not the case, makes it extremely complicated
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:29 PM ET
I don't think they would. The idea is that, in the Covid year, they had a plan in place to go by win percentage rather than record, which ended up not being necessary because they got all the games in. In this case, they wouldn't get them all in, and they would go by win percentage if it was a no-contest, since Buffalo and Cincinnati would only have played 16 games. In that case, KC still gets the #1 seed. What I am saying is, if you add next week in, and all 3 teams win, the seedings don't change whether you give them a tie or a no contest. KC at 14-3 still has the best record, and Buffalo remains a game ahead of Cincinnati.
- buffalofan19

"If" that "covid year rule" was not in place to start this year then this logic is faulty.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 3 @ 5:32 PM ET
I don't think they would. The idea is that, in the Covid year, they had a plan in place to go by win percentage rather than record, which ended up not being necessary because they got all the games in. In this case, they wouldn't get them all in, and they would go by win percentage if it was a no-contest, since Buffalo and Cincinnati would only have played 16 games. In that case, KC still gets the #1 seed. What I am saying is, if you add next week in, and all 3 teams win, the seedings don't change whether you give them a tie or a no contest. KC at 14-3 still has the best record, and Buffalo remains a game ahead of Cincinnati.
- buffalofan19


It's the cleanest solution, while also making the NFL look compassionate.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:32 PM ET
I for one am ready to watch some hockey tonight. Let's see if the sabres can come out and knuckledrag the caps tonight to shine some light on the city if only fir a couple hours
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
I agree. It will make things a lot easier if KC beats the Raiders too. If they lose, wow. No way I can see Cincy and Buff conceding the bye and home field throughout.
- Hatboro_Swords


The more we talk about it, the team that gets screwed the most is Baltimore. The only way they can win their division is if Cincinnati loses twice, period. There might still be a way to the #1 seed for both Buffalo and Cincinnati if KC were to lose. A Buffalo win would get them the one seed. A Cincinnati win and a Buffalo loss gets you to a tie breaker.

EDIT: no, that's wrong. Only Buffalo could take #1 with a win and a KC loss in the event of a tie or a no-contest. A win puts Buffalo at either 13-3 or 13-3-1 (.813 or .794) vs KC at 13-4 (.765). The best the Bengals could do is 12-4 or 12-4-1 (.750 or .735)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 3 @ 5:34 PM ET
"If" that "covid year rule" was not in place to start this year then this logic is faulty.
- TheHank


But it is in place, which absolutely puts the option on the table.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 3 @ 5:35 PM ET
But it is in place, which absolutely puts the option on the table.
- buffalofan19

Is it? Then it's that. Enough said.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 3 @ 6:44 PM ET
As a way to move topics, does anyone have an Ovechkin story? Years ago I was a Customs and Border Protection officer here in Buffalo, and I was lucky enough to work a year at Prior Aviation where all of the NHL teams fly into and out of. OV happens to be the only non-Sabre jersey I've purchased and the only player I've ever asked for an autograph. He was gracious and signed the jersey 2009 or 10.

Years later my nephew is quite the young hockey player but grew up in the worst era of Sabre history; consequently, he's an OV and Capitals fan. Two years ago his Christmas gift was the OV jersey. He went bonkers.

- lacaprup


I'm actually in DC at the game tonight.

3rd row, where the Sabres shoot twice.

Highly recommend the VIP package at Caps game, as the food spread is nice, and it includes draft beer.

Sabres jerseys seen so far: Lots of Eichel, Kalinin, Myers, LaFontaine (mine), DEL Peterka (my brother).
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 3 @ 7:10 PM ET
I'm actually in DC at the game tonight.

3rd row, where the Sabres shoot twice.

Highly recommend the VIP package at Caps game, as the food spread is nice, and it includes draft beer.

Sabres jerseys seen so far: Lots of Eichel, Kalinin, Myers, LaFontaine (mine), DEL Peterka (my brother).

- kingcong39


Jersey update: Tage, Dahlin, Perreault, Kaletra.

They did a moment of silence and prayer for Hamlin before the game.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 3 @ 7:29 PM ET
Jersey update: Tage, Dahlin, Perreault, Kaletra.

They did a moment of silence and prayer for Hamlin before the game.

- kingcong39


Richard Roma (Boss) wants to know if you are wearing a Tom Wilson jeresy.
Go Sabres!
God Bless Hamlin!!
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