Trading Lee, Palmieri, and multiple other players not a team in the league would take unless they were paid with picks and prospects to do so. Proposals for the first overall pick who may be a generational talent that not a GM alive would consider for a nano second. Discussions like these in this thread when our team is in the midst of a supposed playoff push fall under the “you know your team sucks when…” category.

Trading Lee, Palmieri, and multiple other players not a team in the league would take unless they were paid with picks and prospects to do so. Proposals for the first overall pick who may be a generational talent that not a GM alive would consider for a nano second. Discussions like these in this thread when our team is in the midst of a supposed playoff push fall under the “you know your team sucks when…” category.
- Cptmjl

Trading Lee, Palms, or trading for the #1 is just not happening. It's pretty much Mayfield, Varly, and Zach and that's about it.

Trading Lee, Palms, or trading for the #1 is just not happening. It's pretty much Mayfield, Varly, and Zach and that's about it.
- ses111

None of which would net them any particularly valuable assets. If Mayfield's game didn't resemble a flaming dumpster behind an abortion clinic he may have gotten something nice, but he's been awful this year

Trading Lee, Palms, or trading for the #1 is just not happening. It's pretty much Mayfield, Varly, and Zach and that's about it.
- ses111

Unfortunately you are correct. Varlamov is questionable who knows if he’ll waive his NTC to go to a team who may be on it. I could also see Lameriello locking him up for another couple of years which I completely disagree with. Bottom line is i can’t see anyone else being traded besides who you mentioned unfortunately. Nobody is taking on overpaid players with term. Most of which have fairly extensive injury histories on top of not really being that good. I guess when being subjected to watching this team crap all over the ice more often then not there’s not much else to talk about.

None of which would net them any particularly valuable assets. If Mayfield's game didn't resemble a flaming dumpster behind an abortion clinic he may have gotten something nice, but he's been awful this year
- eichiefs9

This is true chief. None of these players will bring back a nice return. Bo was a nice pickup, but he is not a last piece of the puzzle move for the Islanders. Maybe Lou is coming back, and he think they can still compete for the Cup? I do not see how that is happening.

Unfortunately you are correct. Varlamov is questionable who knows if he’ll waive his NTC to go to a team who may be on it. I could also see Lameriello locking him up for another couple of years which I completely disagree with. Bottom line is i can’t see anyone else being traded besides who you mentioned unfortunately. Nobody is taking on overpaid players with term. Most of which have fairly extensive injury histories on top of not really being that good. I guess when being subjected to watching this team crap all over the ice more often then not there’s not much else to talk about.
- Cptmjl

Bringing Varly back would be dumb. It's bad if the team has nobody in the system that can play backup to Sorokin. I just do not see anyone else that can be traded. Maybe Bailey in the offseason with 1 year left and there is a team that needs him to get to the ceiling? With so many question marks still with the team, I would not have made the Bo trade at this time.

None of which would net them any particularly valuable assets. If Mayfield's game didn't resemble a flaming dumpster behind an abortion clinic he may have gotten something nice, but he's been awful this year
- eichiefs9

Meh, defensive depth is always at a premium at the TDL and his low cap hit makes him fairly palatable. I think even factoring in his crap season if a couple teams get involved, which I can see happening, you may be surprised what we get. I can see a team like the Leafs making a play for him. Varlamov, if we actually do trade him, may get a decent return under the same circumstances. Parise as well. The guy has been an animal this season. Has a lot left in the tank along with a low cap hit. For the teams that don’t get Meier, Kane, or whatever other top tier player there will be a decent market for all of them imo.

Bringing Varly back would be dumb. It's bad if the team has nobody in the system that can play backup to Sorokin. I just do not see anyone else that can be traded. Maybe Bailey in the offseason with 1 year left and there is a team that needs him to get to the ceiling? With so many question marks still with the team, I would not have made the Bo trade at this time.
- ses111

I assume you mean floor? I like Horvat but can’t get around the timing. I’m actually shocked he signed. I would think anyone who has put an emphasis on winning takes a look at the roster and what’s in the pipeline for this team(which is nothing lol) can see it’s a pretty bleak outlook long term. I understand the plan is to build around him, Barzal, and Sorokin but how? Are we buying a new top 6, with limited cap space, while hoping our rickety defense regains its form? That plan is about as far from sound as you can get.

I assume you mean floor? I like Horvat but can’t get around the timing. I’m actually shocked he signed. I would think anyone who has put an emphasis on winning takes a look at the roster and what’s in the pipeline for this team(which is nothing lol) can see it’s a pretty bleak outlook long term. I understand the plan is to build around him, Barzal, and Sorokin but how? Are we buying a new top 6, with limited cap space, while hoping our rickety defense regains its form? That plan is about as far from sound as you can get.
- Cptmjl

Sorry it is the floor. I like Bo as well and it is the timing that is shocking and that he signed so quickly. The money was very good for sure. I guess the Taxes did not hurt with Bo. Bo might not be a guy who loves Matthan and the big city. I also understanding wanting to build around Bo, Barzal, and Sorkin but still plenty of work to be done with not the best resources.

Trading Lee, Palms, or trading for the #1 is just not happening. It's pretty much Mayfield, Varly, and Zach and that's about it.
- ses111

No one is seriously suggesting we could trade for number one overall

Sorry it is the floor. I like Bo as well and it is the timing that is shocking and that he signed so quickly. The money was very good for sure. I guess the Taxes did not hurt with Bo. Bo might not be a guy who loves Matthan and the big city. I also understanding wanting to build around Bo, Barzal, and Sorkin but still plenty of work to be done with not the best resources.
- ses111

Bo is a big time community and family man. I think moving to NY was probably seen as a huge opportunity for his wife and her career.
I'm not sure what Mayfield will bring back since that will depend on the market. At beat we're talking a 2nd but likely a 3rd. Varly is unlikely to be resigned given the amount of money we have available and need to extend Ilya, unless he would take a massive discount to stay. I would say a team that feels they are a legit contender with a goaltending upgrade may be willing to go with a 1st, but a combo of 2nd and a lower round might be more likely. Who knows

Meh, defensive depth is always at a premium at the TDL and his low cap hit makes him fairly palatable. I think even factoring in his crap season if a couple teams get involved, which I can see happening, you may be surprised what we get. I can see a team like the Leafs making a play for him. Varlamov, if we actually do trade him, may get a decent return under the same circumstances. Parise as well. The guy has been an animal this season. Has a lot left in the tank along with a low cap hit. For the teams that don’t get Meier, Kane, or whatever other top tier player there will be a decent market for all of them imo.
- Cptmjl

I think there'd be plenty of interest in him, but his cap hit is the only redeeming quality this year. He's got value, I just don't know if a 3rd rounder and a prospect is something I'd consider overly "valuable".

I don't think there will be a particularly large market for Varlamov, if Lou is even shopping him. Not because he's not good, but there isn't usually large markets for goalies and, because of that, they rarely land a large haul of assets. There's maybe two teams that a) have a need for goaltending and b) the space to give it a reasonable chance of working, even with some retained salary

I love Parise but I don't know how much a middle-six forward is really going to get them. He's on pace for 20 goals but only 30 points and probably fits in a bottom-six role on a real contender. (edit: and this is assuming Lou is even going to move him. Sure seemed like last year Parise did not want to be moved and Lou honored that)

I think there'd be plenty of interest in him, but his cap hit is the only redeeming quality this year. He's got value, I just don't know if a 3rd rounder and a prospect is something I'd consider overly "valuable".

I don't think there will be a particularly large market for Varlamov, if Lou is even shopping him. Not because he's not good, but there isn't usually large markets for goalies and, because of that, they rarely land a large haul of assets. There's maybe two teams that a) have a need for goaltending and b) the space to give it a reasonable chance of working, even with some retained salary

I love Parise but I don't know how much a middle-six forward is really going to get them. He's on pace for 20 goals but only 30 points and probably fits in a bottom-six role on a real contender. (edit: and this is assuming Lou is even going to move him. Sure seemed like last year Parise did not want to be moved and Lou honored that)
- eichiefs9

Regardless of how he's played this year, I think people still remember Mayfield crunching the hell out of Kucherov and being an overall tough d-man to handle in his own zone during the playoffs. It's mentioned on many of the "other-team" broadcasts when I watch Isles games, including and especially the Canadian ones where the hockey media has a lot more influence than in the U.S. I think he's still thought of that way. Plus, there's always a premium placed on tough stay-at-home defensemen come playoff time. Heck, guys usually end up getting embarrassingly overpaid based only on that reputation. I can see a team surprising us with a return for him.

Varly, I'd say it depends. If a good goalie for a playoff team goes down over the next week or so, that could jack the price up for him. Otherwise, yeah, it'd probably be tough to expect too much for him.

Parise, I agree with you. Teams will no doubt want him as a solid depth addition, but no one's going to pay anything significant for that.

Regardless of how he's played this year, I think people still remember Mayfield crunching the hell out of Kucherov and being an overall tough d-man to handle in his own zone during the playoffs. It's mentioned on many of the "other-team" broadcasts when I watch Isles games, including and especially the Canadian ones where the hockey media has a lot more influence than in the U.S. I think he's still thought of that way. Plus, there's always a premium placed on tough stay-at-home defensemen come playoff time. Heck, guys usually end up getting embarrassingly overpaid based only on that reputation. I can see a team surprising us with a return for him.

Varly, I'd say it depends. If a good goalie for a playoff team goes down over the next week or so, that could jack the price up for him. Otherwise, yeah, it'd probably be tough to expect too much for him.

Parise, I agree with you. Teams will no doubt want him as a solid depth addition, but no one's going to pay anything significant for that.
- UIF

Definitely agree on Mayfield here. I imagine any sub par performances over the past 12 mos would likely be dismissed due to the overall disarray of the team.

Regardless of how he's played this year, I think people still remember Mayfield crunching the hell out of Kucherov and being an overall tough d-man to handle in his own zone during the playoffs. It's mentioned on many of the "other-team" broadcasts when I watch Isles games, including and especially the Canadian ones where the hockey media has a lot more influence than in the U.S. I think he's still thought of that way. Plus, there's always a premium placed on tough stay-at-home defensemen come playoff time. Heck, guys usually end up getting embarrassingly overpaid based only on that reputation. I can see a team surprising us with a return for him.

Varly, I'd say it depends. If a good goalie for a playoff team goes down over the next week or so, that could jack the price up for him. Otherwise, yeah, it'd probably be tough to expect too much for him.

Parise, I agree with you. Teams will no doubt want him as a solid depth addition, but no one's going to pay anything significant for that.
- UIF

I don't doubt there's a market for Mayfield, but there's not really a shortage of defensemen out there either. Schenn is another ultra low-cost, 3rd pairing option out there. There are varying other types of guys as well. It's not out of the realm of possibility someone surprises us, but I'm not expecting it.

The only options I really see for Varlamov are LA and maybe COL. Outside of, like you said, someone getting hurt somewhere....I don't think there's a single other team that has both the need and the cap flexibility to make it work.

Frankly, I don't think Lou shops anyone. It's pretty clear he still believes this team can compete and I don't think he's going to be shipping anyone out if that's his mindset.

Sorry it is the floor. I like Bo as well and it is the timing that is shocking and that he signed so quickly. The money was very good for sure. I guess the Taxes did not hurt with Bo. Bo might not be a guy who loves Matthan and the big city. I also understanding wanting to build around Bo, Barzal, and Sorkin but still plenty of work to be done with not the best resources.
- ses111

It's the 8 year rebuild plan. I am use to these with my other favorite teams in other leagues.

Definitely agree on Mayfield here. I imagine any sub par performances over the past 12 mos would likely be dismissed due to the overall disarray of the team.
- keaner17

I'm not as confident that other teams will lump in stupid penalties and costly turnovers in with the overall disarray of the team. Not implying he'd only land a 7th round pick, but in other years he may have gotten a late 1st by itself, or something comparable if he were having a strong season. I'm thinking more mid-round pick and a B-level prospect kind of haul now, if they decided to move him.

I'm not as confident that other teams will lump in stupid penalties and costly turnovers in with the overall disarray of the team. Not implying he'd only land a 7th round pick, but in other years he may have gotten a late 1st by itself, or something comparable if he were having a strong season. I'm thinking more mid-round pick and a B-level prospect kind of haul now, if they decided to move him.
- eichiefs9

The draft being so strong makes a #1 for Mayfield less likely.

I'm not as confident that other teams will lump in stupid penalties and costly turnovers in with the overall disarray of the team. Not implying he'd only land a 7th round pick, but in other years he may have gotten a late 1st by itself, or something comparable if he were having a strong season. I'm thinking more mid-round pick and a B-level prospect kind of haul now, if they decided to move him.
- eichiefs9

Yeah I’m not saying it’s a definite he gets us a decent to good return(which I’m defining as a 2nd or late first) I’m saying it’s plausible he does.

I don't doubt there's a market for Mayfield, but there's not really a shortage of defensemen out there either. Schenn is another ultra low-cost, 3rd pairing option out there. There are varying other types of guys as well. It's not out of the realm of possibility someone surprises us, but I'm not expecting it.

The only options I really see for Varlamov are LA and maybe COL. Outside of, like you said, someone getting hurt somewhere....I don't think there's a single other team that has both the need and the cap flexibility to make it work.

Frankly, I don't think Lou shops anyone. It's pretty clear he still believes this team can compete and I don't think he's going to be shipping anyone out if that's his mindset.
- eichiefs9

If we’re all but mathematically eliminated by the time the TDL gets here if he doesn’t he should be fired on the spot. It would literally make no sense especially after what he gave up in the Horvat trade.

I'm not as confident that other teams will lump in stupid penalties and costly turnovers in with the overall disarray of the team. Not implying he'd only land a 7th round pick, but in other years he may have gotten a late 1st by itself, or something comparable if he were having a strong season. I'm thinking more mid-round pick and a B-level prospect kind of haul now, if they decided to move him.
- eichiefs9

I think a 2nd rounder is the ceiling.

I think a 2nd rounder is the ceiling.
- keaner17

Have to think most teams will not want to give up #1 picks for this years draft unless they feel the player is the last piece of the puzzle.

Have to think most teams will not want to give up #1 picks for this years draft unless they feel the player is the last piece of the puzzle.
- ses111

Tell Lou that

Tell Lou that
- keaner17

Nobody listens to me keaner except Ledecky.

So we want at least 4 out of 6 points over the extended weekend, right?

Right?