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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
meh, never got why it was so bad, if offersheets weren't meant to be used then they shouldn't exist.
- Pat1993


Maybe they would happen more often if general managers and owners wouldn't act like hurt babies afterwards.

I remember Brian Burke saying that Kevin Lowe challenged him to a fist fight after the Dustin Penner offer sheet
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
As I said it's an unwritten rule between GMs ... it's considered tampering with another team's lineup. If I was a GM and someone else messed around with my players, I would be mad too. You can't blame Carolina for protecting their interests, the extra $20 was a clear message to Bergy.

Among other reasons, Bergy got fired because Molson knew that Bergy would be blackballed by other GMs and would no longer be able to do his job effectively.

- Garfield512


yeah, Bergevin did fail with his offersheet, but I don't really buy in that "unwritten rule" argument, that's just BS. if it's there to be used then it's fair game.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:06 PM ET
Maybe they would happen more often if general managers and owners wouldn't act like hurt babies afterwards.

I remember Brian Burke saying that Kevin Lowe challenged him to a fist fight after the Dustin Penner offer sheet

- stinger67


oh yeah, good times
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
Maybe they would happen more often if general managers and owners wouldn't act like hurt babies afterwards.

I remember Brian Burke saying that Kevin Lowe challenged him to a fist fight after the Dustin Penner offer sheet

- stinger67


You have it reversed.

Lowe offer sheeted Penner and Burke wanted to fight him.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
Maybe they would happen more often if general managers and owners wouldn't act like hurt babies afterwards.

I remember Brian Burke saying that Kevin Lowe challenged him to a fist fight after the Dustin Penner offer sheet

- stinger67

was that the "rent a barn" one? that was pure gold. good times.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
You have it reversed.

Lowe offer sheeted Penner and Burke wanted to fight him.

- Scabeh


I hope they faxed each other a fist or something at least.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
yeah, Bergevin did fail with his offersheet, but I don't really buy in that "unwritten rule" argument, that's just BS. if it's there to be used then it's fair game.
- Pat1993

You wouldn't last long as a GM ... it takes 2 to Tango when trying to make a deal. Good luck trying to make a deal if no one wants to deal with you.

Whether you think it's BS or not, it's a fact that offersheets are a very bad idea for one's reputation.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
You wouldn't last long as a GM ... it takes 2 to Tango when trying to make a deal. Good luck trying to make a deal if no one wants to deal with you.

Whether you think it's BS or not, it's a fact that offersheets are a very bad idea for one's reputation.

- Garfield512


oh whatever dude, as if you'd do any better, come on now
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Feb 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
You have it reversed.

Lowe offer sheeted Penner and Burke wanted to fight him.

- Scabeh

Did Burke offer sheet Kessel? Or was it a trade in the end
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Feb 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
oh whatever dude, as if you'd do any better, come on now
- Pat1993

I'd last longer than you for sure ... if you can't understand the simple concept of tampering then there's no hope for your longevity as a GM.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
I'd last longer than you for sure ... if you can't understand the simple concept of tampering then there's no hope for your longevity as a GM.
- Garfield512


ok, cool, whatever you say bruh.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
Did Burke offer sheet Kessel? Or was it a trade in the end
- Fredo


It was a trade.

He basically said "we could offer sheet him but let's give you too much in a trade instead".

He's a smart guy.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
You have it reversed.

Lowe offer sheeted Penner and Burke wanted to fight him.

- Scabeh


https://www.hockeyfeed.co...ist-fight-between-nhl-gms

In this, Burke says that it's Lowe who wanted to fight him, but I'm sure Burke was mainly responsible for the escalation
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 16 @ 1:37 PM ET
That offersheet was a dumb ass move from Bergy ... you just don't do that. it's an unwritten rule between GM's.

Bergy then panicked when Carolina retaliated and had to settle for Dvorak.

I'm happy we got rid of Bergy & Cie.

- Garfield512



The offer sheet is part of the rules, but you can't be stupid about it, like MB was... and MB got played by Aho and his agents.

I don't mind Dvorak, but he was never going to be the answer and certainly not for the cost of the acquisition. Most people knew that from the moment the trade was made, but some still wanted to believe.

Also, MB got played by Arizona there too.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Feb 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
https://www.hockeyfeed.co...ist-fight-between-nhl-gms

In this, Burke says that it's Lowe who wanted to fight him, but I'm sure Burke was mainly responsible for the escalation

- stinger67

Sup Stinger did you find another job?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:40 PM ET
The offer sheet is part of the rules, but you can't be stupid about it, like MB was... and MB got played by Aho and his agents.

I don't mind Dvorak, but he was never going to be the answer and certainly not for the cost of the acquisition. Most people knew that from the moment the trade was made, but some still wanted to believe.

Also, MB got played by Arizona there too.

- Mashadar


I never really thought it was a good trade but I'll admit I "wanted to believe" lol... a decent 3rd line center finally blooming on a better team. I had a dream.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:43 PM ET
How about a player that can play both C and W, produce offensively and will be rested for the playoffs?


- Symba007


Nah, I have their guy that can play BOTH center and Wing

Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Feb 16 @ 2:28 PM ET
F U then Stinger
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Feb 16 @ 2:32 PM ET
F U then Stinger
- Fredo


no stinger first
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Feb 16 @ 2:43 PM ET
F U then Stinger
- Fredo


I guess he did and he's now too good for us.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 16 @ 3:25 PM ET
F U then Stinger
- Fredo



harsh but fair
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 16 @ 3:29 PM ET
and all the fucks were given
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
and all the fucks were given
- WaterBoy

butts were filled too
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Feb 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Feb 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
butts were filled too
- kicksave856

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