yes answer. They wont good again anytime soon. Many years. Accept it.

There was no circumstances; just an excuse on your end. He just wasn't good enough. He was provided some opportunites. Needed a change of scenario that has worked out. Not the same thing as frost in any way. Yet you call me a clown.

The reason frost was picked n the 20's was not because of injuries. Too funny. Top 5 even funnier. good lord. Play the fool


I am glad you dont post as you offer nothing. You really told me with the shut up.
- hello it's me 2050

Frost was drafted in the 20’s because he was raw and needed work. He dealt with the injuries after he was drafted. Not sure if you have been following the last few years. Tippet had some opportunities with Florida but wasn’t given much run way. Anyway you clearly are uneducated when it comes to hockey. Take it easy.

Could you imagine the epic pissikg contests between Eddie O and Torts?
I can't stand eddie O but the post game pissing matches between them would be entertaining
- Bob Habib

I’d rather see Eddie O on a date with Leah Hextall. Wonderfully cringy.

Frost was drafted in the 20’s because he was raw and needed work. He dealt with the injuries after he was drafted. Not sure if you have been following the last few years. Tippet had some opportunities with Florida but wasn’t given much run way. Anyway you clearly are uneducated when it comes to hockey. Take it easy.
- Keyser soze

you said frost was drafted i the 20's because of injuries. Go re -read your own post.

as i said no circumstances for tippet, just your lame excuse for him.

Girl don't go away mad, girl just go away.

Not the start Debbie wanted I think.

Re: Fedotov


- Glak18[Russians drafted by Flyers while playing in NA]
1996 - Roman Malov (C) -> Back in Russia
2002 - Nikita Korovkin (D) -> Back in Russia
2014 - Radel Fazleev (C) -> Back in Russia
2015 - Ivan Provorov (D) -> Currently playing for Flyers
2016 - German Rubtsov (C) -> Back in Russia
2017 - Maxim Sushko (RW) -> Back in Russia
2019 - Egor Serdyuk (RW) -> Back in Russia

[Played for the Flyers]
1990 - Vyacheslav Butsayev (C) -> 99 games
1991 - Dmitri Yushkevich (D) -> 197 games
1991 - Andrei Lomakin (LW) -> 108 games
1995 - Dmitri Tertyshny (D) -> 62 games, RIP
1996 - Dainius Zubrus (RW) -> [Lithuania] 200 games
2015 - Mikhail Vorobyev (C) -> 35 games, Back to Russia and forced to stay
2017 - Kirill Ustimenko (G) -> Played briefly in NA, Back to Russia

[Flyers own rights]
2015 - Ivan Fedotov (G) -> Signed entry contract, forced to serve military requirement
2021 - Alexei Kolosov (G) -> UNSIGNED

[Played in NA]
1992 - Denis Metlyuk (LW) -> Played 1 year (AHL) before going back Russia
1992 - Vladislav Boulin (D) -> Played 3 yrs (AHL) before going back Russia
1993 - Vladimir Krechin (LW) -> Played in OHL before going back to Russia
1994 - Alexander Selivanov (RW) -> Traded to TB before coming to NA
1997 - Mikhail Chernov (D) -> Played 3 yrs (AHL) before going back Russia
1998 - Sergei Skrobot (D) -> Played in ECHL
2006 - Denis Bodrov (D) -> Played 1 year (AHL) before going back Russia

[Never played in NA]
1992 - Roman Zolotov (D)
1994 - Artem Anisimov (C)
1995 - Ruslan Shafikov (F)
1999 - Konstantin Rudenko (F)
2000 - Alexander Drozdetsky (RW)
2001 - Andrei Razin (C)
2002 - Konstantin Baranov (F)
2006 - Andrei Popov (D)
2012 - Valeri Vasiliev (D)

To sum it up, the Flyers have fantastic luck with their Russian draft pics.

Most of these posts today are worthy of being bookmarked. After all, we all remember when someone else was wrong, when do you remember the last time you were wrong.
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t ever remember being wrong in weeks honestly.
Oh wait I’m wrong it’s been months.

Frost was drafted in the 20’s because he was raw and needed work. He dealt with the injuries after he was drafted. Not sure if you have been following the last few years. Tippet had some opportunities with Florida but wasn’t given much run way. Anyway you clearly are uneducated when it comes to hockey. Take it easy.
- Keyser soze

Frost was by no means raw, that couldn’t be more wrong. A guy like Sam Morin was raw

I’d rather see Eddie O on a date with Leah Hextall. Wonderfully cringy.
- Minnyhock

I'd rather see them at an antifa rally than see them anywhere in this organization

Frost was by no means raw, that couldn’t be more wrong. A guy like Sam Morin was raw
- ClaudeFather

Frost was playing 3rd line for the Soo the first half of his draft year then moved up to the 2nd line as the season progressed. His breakout was his D+1 year.

This is fun to look back at now.

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=85566

Frost was playing 3rd line for the Soo the first half of his draft year then moved up to the 2nd line as the season progressed. His breakout was his D+1 year.

This is fun to look back at now.

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=85566
- bmeltzer

That still doesn’t mean he was raw Bill, that’s an incorrect statement. Your write up also doesn’t describe a “raw” player lol. Nice call on Kyrou, took a little but he got there

That still doesn’t mean he was raw Bill, that’s an incorrect statement
- ClaudeFather

I didn't say he was raw. He was physically underdeveloped and hadn't yet gotten top line minutes. That's why he went in the 20s.

I didn't say he was raw. He was physically underdeveloped and hadn't yet gotten top line minutes. That's why he went in the 20s.
- bmeltzer

Right, I was just responding to someone claiming that. Connor Timmins on that team too, he filled in well for the Leafs this year. The Soo had quite a run there. Hayton had a step in the right direction this year too.

That still doesn’t mean he was raw Bill, that’s an incorrect statement. Your write up also doesn’t describe a “raw” player lol. Nice call on Kyrou, took a little but he got there
- ClaudeFather

Raw can be a subjective term but I wouldn't describe Frost as raw. All Frost really needed was what most good high skilled players need. Some time and legitimate opportunity with consistent ice time in good situations.

Raw can be a subjective term but I wouldn't describe Frost as raw. All Frost really needed was what most good high skilled players need. Some time and legitimate opportunity with consistent ice time in good situations.
- MJL

Hey, look at that...I agree! I admit I had doubts about Frosty but I did always want to see him get more ice time and opportunities with better line-mates. He definitely seemed more confident and assertive in the 2nd half. I can see the "meaningless games" stance, but not all of the games were "officially" meaningless early on when he started to get more ice time and improve. Maybe the healthy scratch by Torts inspired him! (That can't be possible due to archaic Torts) I still don't see him as a top star and major difference maker, but he is still young and hopefully will be a contributing factor to our team.

The article I read, defined NHL draft success as playing at least 1 NHL game in their career... so you see by the %, the chances per round... they did mention that the average NHL career is around 3 years... some very good players are much longer and some are very short, which brings us to the 3 year average... so as expected you want as many 1st round picks you can get.

Round Percentage of Players to play an NHL Game
1 94%
2 70%
3 54%
4 44%
5 34%
6 31%
7 26%

Frost was playing 3rd line for the Soo the first half of his draft year then moved up to the 2nd line as the season progressed. His breakout was his D+1 year.

This is fun to look back at now.

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=85566
- bmeltzer

His 100 point campaigns in the OHL were outstanding and the buzz surrounding his potential among fans (and on here) was legit. I don’t understand where all the optimism went. His bad luck with injuries and some stifled development shouldn’t detract from the fact that this is still a very skilled player with a career yet to be written. I wouldn’t be surprised if he regularly puts up 50-60 points or more a season.

Hey, look at that...I agree! I admit I had doubts about Frosty but I did always want to see him get more ice time and opportunities with better line-mates. He definitely seemed more confident and assertive in the 2nd half. I can see the "meaningless games" stance, but not all of the games were "officially" meaningless early on when he started to get more ice time and improve. Maybe the healthy scratch by Torts inspired him! (That can't be possible due to archaic Torts) I still don't see him as a top star and major difference maker, but he is still young and hopefully will be a contributing factor to our team.
- Don Nachbaur

Sure, let's ignore that from the time that Frost turned professional, he did nothing but progress forward and get better and better. Correcting the flaws in his game and overcoming missing basically an entire season and give the credit for the inspiration that Tortorella provided by scratching him one game in his home town. Clearly a genius and innovative move by one of the coaches on the forefront of modern day NHL coaching tactics. Just brilliant. He should win coach of the year just for that. And of course getting Scott fired and the medical staff revamped.

Typically in the NHL its a race to 4 goals to win a game, but in typical Edmonton style, they score 4 goals and lose. I guess having two mega-stars means nothing in the playoffs when you can't defend. Vegas will ease right on by Edmonton, because Cassidy actually coaches how to defend.

Typically in the NHL its a race to 4 goals to win a game, but in typical Edmonton style, they score 4 goals and lose. I guess having two mega-stars means nothing in the playoffs when you can't defend. Vegas will ease right on by Edmonton, because Cassidy actually coaches how to defend.
- jd250

Is giving up 4 goals in a playoff game what you would label defending?

Typically in the NHL its a race to 4 goals to win a game, but in typical Edmonton style, they score 4 goals and lose. I guess having two mega-stars means nothing in the playoffs when you can't defend. Vegas will ease right on by Edmonton, because Cassidy actually coaches how to defend.
- jd250

You’d think overreacting after one game would stop in the first round lol. Leon straight up for Hart?

Re: Fedotov


- Glak18[Russians drafted by Flyers while playing in NA]
1996 - Roman Malov (C) -> Back in Russia
2002 - Nikita Korovkin (D) -> Back in Russia
2014 - Radel Fazleev (C) -> Back in Russia
2015 - Ivan Provorov (D) -> Currently playing for Flyers
2016 - German Rubtsov (C) -> Back in Russia
2017 - Maxim Sushko (RW) -> Back in Russia
2019 - Egor Serdyuk (RW) -> Back in Russia

[Played for the Flyers]
1990 - Vyacheslav Butsayev (C) -> 99 games
1991 - Dmitri Yushkevich (D) -> 197 games
1991 - Andrei Lomakin (LW) -> 108 games
1995 - Dmitri Tertyshny (D) -> 62 games, RIP
1996 - Dainius Zubrus (RW) -> [Lithuania] 200 games
2015 - Mikhail Vorobyev (C) -> 35 games, Back to Russia and forced to stay
2017 - Kirill Ustimenko (G) -> Played briefly in NA, Back to Russia

[Flyers own rights]
2015 - Ivan Fedotov (G) -> Signed entry contract, forced to serve military requirement
2021 - Alexei Kolosov (G) -> UNSIGNED

[Played in NA]
1992 - Denis Metlyuk (LW) -> Played 1 year (AHL) before going back Russia
1992 - Vladislav Boulin (D) -> Played 3 yrs (AHL) before going back Russia
1993 - Vladimir Krechin (LW) -> Played in OHL before going back to Russia
1994 - Alexander Selivanov (RW) -> Traded to TB before coming to NA
1997 - Mikhail Chernov (D) -> Played 3 yrs (AHL) before going back Russia
1998 - Sergei Skrobot (D) -> Played in ECHL
2006 - Denis Bodrov (D) -> Played 1 year (AHL) before going back Russia

[Never played in NA]
1992 - Roman Zolotov (D)
1994 - Artem Anisimov (C)
1995 - Ruslan Shafikov (F)
1999 - Konstantin Rudenko (F)
2000 - Alexander Drozdetsky (RW)
2001 - Andrei Razin (C)
2002 - Konstantin Baranov (F)
2006 - Andrei Popov (D)
2012 - Valeri Vasiliev (D)

nice, thanks

You’d think overreacting after one game would stop in the first round lol. Leon straight up for Hart?
- ClaudeFather

Why not? Leon scored 4 last night. I will trade Hart for him.

Sure, let's ignore that from the time that Frost turned professional, he did nothing but progress forward and get better and better. Correcting the flaws in his game and overcoming missing basically an entire season and give the credit for the inspiration that Tortorella provided by scratching him one game in his home town. Clearly a genius and innovative move by one of the coaches on the forefront of modern day NHL coaching tactics. Just brilliant. He should win coach of the year just for that. And of course getting Scott fired and the medical staff revamped.
- MJL

Thats pure speculation and not fact. More trolling on your end I see

Is giving up 4 goals in a playoff game what you would label defending?
- MJL

Did you see the goals? Where any of them weak and on the goalie?

You’d think overreacting after one game would stop in the first round lol. Leon straight up for Hart?
- ClaudeFather

might be the most ridiculous take I have seen on these boards.