Is giving up 4 goals in a playoff game what you would label defending?
- MJL

2 of the 4 Edmonton goals were on the PP, so Vegas needs to stay out of the box. But 5 on 5 when you limit Edmonton to only 2 goals, that is defending well. its not like Vegas has a world class goalie in nets.

2 of the 4 Edmonton goals were on the PP, so Vegas needs to stay out of the box. But 5 on 5 when you limit Edmonton to only 2 goals, that is defending well. its not like Vegas has a world class goalie in nets.
- jd250

So, playing on the PK is not defending? Can defending poorly lead to a team taking penalties? Can a team defend well and still give up goals due to poor goaltending? These are some questions I have for you.

So, playing on the PK is not defending? Can defending poorly lead to a team taking penalties? Can a team defend well and still give up goals due to poor goaltending? These are some questions I have for you.
- MJL

I didn't say that PK is not defending. However when you are playing a team with a PP like Edmonton, you are going to give up PP goals, so aw I stated, Vegas needs to stay out of the box. But back to my original statement, Edmonton scored 4 in a playoff game and lost .. typical Edmonton.

I'm late to the party again.
Bill, The one thought that hasn't been expressed concerning Russians, the country is going broke. BROKE.
Money is of great influence in the former Soviet Empire.
Bill, you sort of implied that this has an impact on 'considerations' concerning who gets loose from the KHL.
Are we talking about 'considerations' by remuneration?
"...it doesn't necessarily mean that aren't ways to "convince" the right authorities to allow those commitments to (be) altered."
If so, how corrupt would we be willing to be to land some of those Russian studs?

So, playing on the PK is not defending? Can defending poorly lead to a team taking penalties? Can a team defend well and still give up goals due to poor goaltending? These are some questions I have for you.
- MJL

Can you share with the board what your off season plan for the Flyers would consist of?

Who would you look to move? What would you want in return? Provide some names.

Are there any free agents you would target on any long or short term deals? What players? Provide some names.

Would you hire a coach to oversee/dedicated to the PP? if so whom? If not why?

These are some questions the board has for you.

I didn't say that PK is not defending. However when you are playing a team with a PP like Edmonton, you are going to give up PP goals, so aw I stated, Vegas needs to stay out of the box. But back to my original statement, Edmonton scored 4 in a playoff game and lost .. typical Edmonton.
- jd250

You made an ironic statement that Cassidy teaches Vegas to defend after a game they didn't defend well. Then tried to spin it as PP goals versus ES goals against.
Reality is that it's the playoffs and all that really matters now is W/L.

You made an ironic statement that Cassidy teaches Vegas to defend after a game they didn't defend well. Then tried to spin it as PP goals versus ES goals against.
Reality is that it's the playoffs and all that really matters now is W/L.
- MJL

keep trolling him. he didn't say teaches now did he..

keep trolling him. he didn't say teaches now did he..
- Peter Richards

Words don't matter to MJL .. he is just board, waiting to have an argument with someone, its just his way.

Words don't matter to MJL .. he is just board, waiting to have an argument with someone, its just his way.
- jd250

Words don't matter to MJL .. he is just board, waiting to have an argument with someone, its just his way.
- jd250

Actually it is you who is doing that by quivering over the word teaching versus coaching. I'm not bored at all. Your posting brings a good dose of daily humor to my life. Thanks.

Allying with trolls is not going to do anything for you.

Can you share with the board what your off season plan for the Flyers would consist of?

Who would you look to move? What would you want in return? Provide some names.

Are there any free agents you would target on any long or short term deals? What players? Provide some names.

Would you hire a coach to oversee/dedicated to the PP? if so whom? If not why?

These are some questions the board has for you.
- hello it's me 2050

Don't hold your breath, you will not hear a peep from MJL on this front. But rest assured no matter what happens, it will be wrong, the Flyers will remain dysfuntional and Torts will remain a dinosaur.

However, since I think you ask good questions here I will be happy to take a shot at answering them.

If I were the GM of the Flyers, here is what I would attempt to do this off-season.

1. Gain more picks in the 2023 draft. To do this unfortunately means trading one of the good players on team, namely TK or Provorov. I would trade Provorov and try to get at least a 2nd round pick and a good prospect, or a late 1st round pick in the 2023 draft.

2. Trade Kevin Hayes. Cover about $2.5M in salary and hope to get a 3rd and 4th round pick in return.

3. See if there is a deal out there to trade Ellis to a team that needs to reach the cap floor and take another bad contract in return. One idea I heard that might make sense is to trade Ellis to Vancouver and take back Tyler Myers who has 1 year left at $6M. This would immediately help Vancouver clear cap space and would get the Flyers out of LTIR so they can start accumulating cap space again.

4. See if there is any way I can get out of the Sanheim contract. I seriously doubt it but maybe there is a situation where a team ike Calgary would trade Weeger for Sanheim and a prospect. Both have similar contracts and Sanheim has Calgary roots.

5. I would not hire any new coaches to coach the PP. I think Rocky Thompson is fine for another year. Even Boston has trouble with zone entries on the PP. I feel the PP is primarily on the players, not the coaches. I think Torts just needs to settle on his 1st and 2nd PP units and keep them together for the season, so they can develop chemistry. As the Flyers get more skill and speed in their lineup, their PP will improve.

6. I don't believe the Flyers need to dip into the FA market, but given Tort's statements that he needs to augment the PK, I would think maybe a cheaper winger and/or veteran defenseman might be possibilities. I like Nosek from the Bruins as a 4th liner that can play on the PK.

Actually it is you who is doing that by quivering over the word teaching versus coaching. I'm not bored at all. Your posting brings a good dose of daily humor to my life. Thanks.

Allying with trolls is not going to do anything for you.
- MJL

I happy to bring joy to your life, I really am! And I don't think the other poster is a troll.

Actually it is you who is doing that by quivering over the word teaching versus coaching. I'm not bored at all. Your posting brings a good dose of daily humor to my life. Thanks.

Allying with trolls is not going to do anything for you.
- MJL

Dude go outside it’s not that serious 🤣

I happy to bring joy to your life, I really am! And I don't think the other poster is a troll.
- jd250

Well, just something else that you're wrong about and another occasion where you made me laugh.

Don't hold your breath, you will not hear a peep from MJL on this front. But rest assured no matter what happens, it will be wrong, the Flyers will remain dysfuntional and Torts will remain a dinosaur.

- jd250

You seem to have a very poor memory of all of our past interactions. I've been on record with the approach I want the Flyers to take going back to about 2014. You and I have had many, many conversations on the Flyers and how they should approach team building. Specifically when discussing all of Fletcher's numerous blunders that you rubber stamped with golden approval that you claimed put the team on the path to the cup. While I objected to the moves.

It remains to be seen if the Flyers remain dysfunctional or not. Sadly, Tortorella will not change and that will be an issue moving forward as the inevitable power struggle and dysfunction that he will bring happens.

Actually it is you who is doing that by quivering over the word teaching versus coaching. I'm not bored at all. Your posting brings a good dose of daily humor to my life. Thanks.

Allying with trolls is not going to do anything for you.
- MJL

when was the last time you had some companionship?

what will "allying" with you get him? A free pizza at Papa Gino's?

All you do is troll him. Why cant you practice what you preach cliff?

You seem to have a very poor memory of all of our past interactions. I've been on record with the approach I want the Flyers to take going back to about 2014. You and I have had many, many conversations on the Flyers and how they should approach team building. Specifically when discussing all of Fletcher's numerous blunders that you rubber stamped with golden approval that you claimed put the team on the path to the cup. While I objected to the moves.

It remains to be seen if the Flyers remain dysfunctional or not. Sadly, Tortorella will not change and that will be an issue moving forward as the inevitable power struggle and dysfunction that he will bring happens.
- MJL

You’re wildly misinformed yet again. No surprise here.

Edit: you’re embarrassing yourself you archaic, asinine dinosaur

You seem to have a very poor memory of all of our past interactions. I've been on record with the approach I want the Flyers to take going back to about 2014. You and I have had many, many conversations on the Flyers and how they should approach team building. Specifically when discussing all of Fletcher's numerous blunders that you rubber stamped with golden approval that you claimed put the team on the path to the cup. While I objected to the moves.

It remains to be seen if the Flyers remain dysfunctional or not. Sadly, Tortorella will not change and that will be an issue moving forward as the inevitable power struggle and dysfunction that he will bring happens.
- MJL

draft an develop isn't an approach, it is a lazy 3 words you use. You have no plan just like the 2 prior GM's. Every team drafts and develops.

Would you hire Saint Ronnie back as head scout or lead player development

draft an develop isn't an approach, it is a lazy 3 words you use. You have no plan just like the 2 prior GM's. Every team drafts and develops.

Would you hire Saint Ronnie back as head scout or lead player development
- hello it's me 2050

Bingo

You seem to have a very poor memory of all of our past interactions. I've been on record with the approach I want the Flyers to take going back to about 2014. You and I have had many, many conversations on the Flyers and how they should approach team building. Specifically when discussing all of Fletcher's numerous blunders that you rubber stamped with golden approval that you claimed put the team on the path to the cup. While I objected to the moves.

It remains to be seen if the Flyers remain dysfunctional or not. Sadly, Tortorella will not change and that will be an issue moving forward as the inevitable power struggle and dysfunction that he will bring happens.
- MJL

Giroux and Voracek were coming to the end of their run in Philly. As you know I hated the "on the fence" approach of Hextall, his moves made no sense! So I was happy when Fletcher, or anyone else, took the GM role and was more aggressive. Unfortunately Fletcher was a bafoon. I still feel if Ellis played in 2020 and the Flyers were healthy that season, they would have made a good run.

You might be right about Torts, but in my mind Torts has already done what I was hoping he would do, shake this freak'n franchise up! Sure, I would love for Torts to have another Cup run before he retires, but as I stated the other day, I really don't believe the Flyers would have a new CEO and be hiring a new PoHOs if it was not for Torts. He exposed the multi-level dysfunction within the Flyers organization, from incompetent leadership, to lack of player development, to their midevil medical staff.

Don't hold your breath, you will not hear a peep from MJL on this front. But rest assured no matter what happens, it will be wrong, the Flyers will remain dysfuntional and Torts will remain a dinosaur.

However, since I think you ask good questions here I will be happy to take a shot at answering them.

If I were the GM of the Flyers, here is what I would attempt to do this off-season.

1. Gain more picks in the 2023 draft. To do this unfortunately means trading one of the good players on team, namely TK or Provorov. I would trade Provorov and try to get at least a 2nd round pick and a good prospect, or a late 1st round pick in the 2023 draft.

2. Trade Kevin Hayes. Cover about $2.5M in salary and hope to get a 3rd and 4th round pick in return.

3. See if there is a deal out there to trade Ellis to a team that needs to reach the cap floor and take another bad contract in return. One idea I heard that might make sense is to trade Ellis to Vancouver and take back Tyler Myers who has 1 year left at $6M. This would immediately help Vancouver clear cap space and would get the Flyers out of LTIR so they can start accumulating cap space again.

4. See if there is any way I can get out of the Sanheim contract. I seriously doubt it but maybe there is a situation where a team ike Calgary would trade Weeger for Sanheim and a prospect. Both have similar contracts and Sanheim has Calgary roots.

5. I would not hire any new coaches to coach the PP. I think Rocky Thompson is fine for another year. Even Boston has trouble with zone entries on the PP. I feel the PP is primarily on the players, not the coaches. I think Torts just needs to settle on his 1st and 2nd PP units and keep them together for the season, so they can develop chemistry. As the Flyers get more skill and speed in their lineup, their PP will improve.

6. I don't believe the Flyers need to dip into the FA market, but given Tort's statements that he needs to augment the PK, I would think maybe a cheaper winger and/or veteran defenseman might be possibilities. I like Nosek from the Bruins as a 4th liner that can play on the PK.
- jd250

1. If you are going to trade Ivan or TK, then why stop there? They both and others need to go.
2. Agree. To Columbus for Gundbradson!!! Wont shock me in the least.
3. No need to trade Ellis at this time imo and no need to take back a bad contract. For Myers I do it though doubt he waives to come play for the loser flyers.
4. No need for Weegar. If you trade Sanheim why would you want a contract coming back that is the same $ and an older player. Again he isn’t waiving to come play for the flyers.
5. Totally disagree. Rocky has history of bad PP. They absolutely need a PP coach who can be effective.
6. Torts wants his 4th line grinder type and that is exactly what he will get. Beyond comical at this point. Will be a waste of money and roster spot as it will be a multiyear deal.

It’s hard to side with any of these ridiculous arguments this morning as we debate teaching and coaching, when both go hand in hand. A lot of splitting hairs.

I do respect the passion though.

Giroux and Voracek were coming to the end of their run in Philly. As you know I hated the "on the fence" approach of Hextall, his moves made no sense! So I was happy when Fletcher, or anyone else, took the GM role and was more aggressive. Unfortunately Fletcher was a bafoon. I still feel if Ellis played in 2020 and the Flyers were healthy that season, they would have made a good run.

You might be right about Torts, but in my mind Torts has already done what I was hoping he would do, shake this freak'n franchise up! Sure, I would love for Torts to have another Cup run before he retires, but as I stated the other day, I really don't believe the Flyers would have a new CEO and be hiring a new PoHOs if it was not for Torts. He exposed the multi-level dysfunction within the Flyers organization, from incompetent leadership, to lack of player development, to their midevil medical staff.
- jd250

In order for someone to expose something. They have to reveal something inside that outsiders are not aware of. Everything that you claimed that Tortotrella exposed, was well known outside of the Flyers. Known by and expressed by many fans and posters here on HB for a considerable period of time before Tortorella became a member of the organization. You of course were not one of them.

Has anyone seen the movie Groundhog Day? If not, this thread is the live show.

Actually it is you who is doing that by quivering over the word teaching versus coaching. I'm not bored at all. Your posting brings a good dose of daily humor to my life. Thanks.

Allying with trolls is not going to do anything for you.
- MJL

keep up with the false narrative. your statements the other day proved you had an agenda with the whole "mission accomplished." (whick i called out weeks ago, and was obviously correct) i discuss hockey daily. but your petty accusations and your behavior are hypocritical. That was pointed out. keep playing the victim. completely hysterical. now back to rational hockey talk, not just those who want to argue for the sake of arguing.