Did anyone really want Hayes to stay at over 7 mill?

Does anyone really want TDA to stay at 5 mill?

Confused as to why Torts is blamed for simply pointing out what we already know. We dont want the same players Torts does not want. Torts haters are so conflicted by this as he is right and they agree w him, but can’t bring themselves to admit it.

And plez stop with this nonsense - that the coach reduced Hayes or TDAs value. These other gms are pretty smart and know a heck of a lot more about these players then those on this board.

The Hayes and TDA benchings did not impract their value. You would have to be lost in a time warp to not know Hayes plays about every 3rd shift, is ok w losing and has 0 interest in attention to detail when managing the puck. Also, TDA is not getting along with (fill the blank).. this is not new information to anyone, anywhere paying attention.

Torts was right about the rebuild from the jump and he is correct about TDA n Hayes. Who actually disagrees with him?

You don’t like him cause you think he is Old..? Beside the fact that’s kinda offensive it’s just ignorant. You don’t like him, fine.

But you can’t argue he has been spot on about his assessment of Comcast, The Flyers Org and most of our players thus far.

I don’t like scratching players in front of grandmom just to prove a point, but for now he is the least of the flyers concerns.

Also don’t forget he walked into the Comcast Center from day one and said this team needs to rebuild. He said it from Day 1.
- Joe Nardone

great post

MJL throwing out personality disorder accusations is top tier internet irony for the day.
- Lip_Out

Bring some cokes in please

"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"

Bill on Twitter. Pretty harsh from who some calls a "company" man.

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?

Any other details on the fleecing the Flyers took to get rid of Hayes?

"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"

Bill on Twitter. Pretty harsh from who some calls a "company" man.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

considering the circumstances (self inflicted) flyers did as best as they could.

Funny how he was Flyers public darling not too long ago.

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

Good job lol

Any other details on the fleecing the Flyers took to get rid of Hayes?
- Letterkenney

Why was it a fleecing?

Jones does not make the decisions, he’s a puppet
- ClaudeFather

Than it's LeClair, Sharp, or one of the old dinasours that is left. 😁😮‍💨

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

Year 1....fix mistakes, draft better

Can you really ask more from him?

Same gameplan for the country.

Did anyone really want Hayes to stay at over 7 mill?

Does anyone really want TDA to stay at 5 mill?

Confused as to why Torts is blamed for simply pointing out what we already know. We dont want the same players Torts does not want. Torts haters are so conflicted by this as he is right and they agree w him, but can’t bring themselves to admit it.

And plez stop with this nonsense - that the coach reduced Hayes or TDAs value. These other gms are pretty smart and know a heck of a lot more about these players then those on this board.

The Hayes and TDA benchings did not impract their value. You would have to be lost in a time warp to not know Hayes plays about every 3rd shift, is ok w losing and has 0 interest in attention to detail when managing the puck. Also, TDA is not getting along with (fill the blank).. this is not new information to anyone, anywhere paying attention.

Torts was right about the rebuild from the jump and he is correct about TDA n Hayes. Who actually disagrees with him?

You don’t like him cause you think he is Old..? Beside the fact that’s kinda offensive it’s just ignorant. You don’t like him, fine.

But you can’t argue he has been spot on about his assessment of Comcast, The Flyers Org and most of our players thus far.

I don’t like scratching players in front of grandmom just to prove a point, but for now he is the least of the flyers concerns.

Also don’t forget he walked into the Comcast Center from day one and said this team needs to rebuild. He said it from Day 1.
- Joe Nardone

💯

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

It's a start. He's always had his work cut out for him.

Now if he gets Sanheim gone by July 1st then I'll smile a little more.

"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"

Bill on Twitter. Pretty harsh from who some calls a "company" man.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

How is that harsh? He pretty much put the blame on Hayes and his contract and said it could've been worse. Taken as a whole his tweet levels no criticism at the team.

to paraphrase "I know it looks bad but it wasn't really because of x and y and it could've been much worse so be glad with what the Flyers got".

Blues roster is pretty ugly, mediocrity to the fullest. I don’t think Kyrie and Thomas are enough to drive that group. D is bad.

Am I the only one who wants Brendan Lemieux resigned on a 1 year deal?
- Bayareaflyer

I don't really care about that guy one way or another.

Blues roster is pretty ugly, mediocrity to the fullest. I don’t think Kyrie and Thomas are enough to drive that group. D is bad.
- ClaudeFather

STL also does not have a lot of cap space to sign players. I bet they really wanted to rid themselves of the Krug contract

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

Underwhelming. But I would have to know specifically what he turned down on TK, Hart, Laughton, etc. before I crucify him. I don't really want him making moves just to make them. He's not really dealing from a position of strength since the whole league knows he's looking to move guys, so I'm not saying he should be holding out for top shelf returns on all those guys, but after the three you mentioned he should be done simply giving guys away. Need decent returns on the others that haven't moved yet IMO

STL also does not have a lot of cap space to sign players. I bet they really wanted to rid themselves of the Krug contract
- WhiskeyMan

And they just got another player with a M-NTC to add to their list of 9 players with NTC/M-NTC. Amazing.

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

Well they’re going to draft two 1st rounders, assuming they don’t make a move. It’s progress.

Well they’re going to draft two 1st rounders, assuming they don’t make a move. It’s progress.
- hereticpride

Hopefully they draft good tomorrow, play young players this offseason to finish bottom 5 and Florida stumbles with injuries.

And they just got another player with a M-NTC to add to their list of 9 players with NTC/M-NTC. Amazing.
- atibus

5 of them are on the aging defense, all age 30 or older. The other M-NTCs are on aging forwards.

So what’s the consensus if all Briere does this off season is move Provorov, Hayes, and TDA?
- StepfordSam

He needs to make one more move for something good to make me give me a B.

Like Laughton to the Avs for a 1st+.

The (frank) kind of question is that...
- Tomahawk

Blanches. They asked that to an Austrian guy?

Especially to an Austrian. They don't view WW2 as this glorious triumph like we (Americans) do.
- atibus

Ah, leight!