LA does
- 2Real

Kings on the verge to make deep runs. Flyers on the verge to make the bottom 3 for years to come. 😁😪

Are you sure? Jonesy thinks they’re going to be right back in it before year 3.
- StepfordSam

Jonsey & Sharp, LeClair, hired to sell used flyers cars. 😁

Kings on the verge to make deep runs. Flyers on the verge to make the bottom 3 for years to come. 😁😪
- THE EVIL WITHIN

you have to suck to get better

Kings on the verge to make deep runs. Flyers on the verge to make the bottom 3 for years to come. 😁😪
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Best decision made in 15 years

Astonishing return for PLD - does anyone believe this is a good trade?
- Thehawk67

I guess they think they need three top centers to compete in the West.

Did anyone really want Hayes to stay at over 7 mill?

Does anyone really want TDA to stay at 5 mill?

Confused as to why Torts is blamed for simply pointing out what we already know. We dont want the same players Torts does not want. Torts haters are so conflicted by this as he is right and they agree w him, but can’t bring themselves to admit it.

And plez stop with this nonsense - that the coach reduced Hayes or TDAs value. These other gms are pretty smart and know a heck of a lot more about these players then those on this board.

The Hayes and TDA benchings did not impract their value. You would have to be lost in a time warp to not know Hayes plays about every 3rd shift, is ok w losing and has 0 interest in attention to detail when managing the puck. Also, TDA is not getting along with (fill the blank).. this is not new information to anyone, anywhere paying attention.

Torts was right about the rebuild from the jump and he is correct about TDA n Hayes. Who actually disagrees with him?

You don’t like him cause you think he is Old..? Beside the fact that’s kinda offensive it’s just ignorant. You don’t like him, fine.

But you can’t argue he has been spot on about his assessment of Comcast, The Flyers Org and most of our players thus far.

I don’t like scratching players in front of grandmom just to prove a point, but for now he is the least of the flyers concerns.

Also don’t forget he walked into the Comcast Center from day one and said this team needs to rebuild. He said it from Day 1.
- Joe Nardone

Below is what Bill Meltzer had to say on Twitter. Is he ignorant or talking nonsense? So what was it that devalued Hayes as a player? Was it putting up the second highest point total of his career? Was it his selection to the All Star team? Speaking of ignorance. Nobody has said that Tortorella is not a good coach because he is old. I don't care if he was 85. It's because the game has past him by and his methods and strategy are obsolete. Tortorella is a huge concern moving forward in my opinion but hey, I'm just one of the ignorant.


"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"

How is that harsh? He pretty much put the blame on Hayes and his contract and said it could've been worse. Taken as a whole his tweet levels no criticism at the team.

to paraphrase "I know it looks bad but it wasn't really because of x and y and it could've been much worse so be glad with what the Flyers got".
- Flyers_01

I don't think he's putting the blame on Hayes there.

And they just got another player with a M-NTC to add to their list of 9 players with NTC/M-NTC. Amazing.
- atibus

That depends. Was St. Louis on his no trade list? If it was then he had to agree to waive and the player can make it part of the deal that his trad clause stays intact. However technically according to the CBA. When a player is traded, his trade or movement clauses are voided.

Below is what Bill Meltzer had to say on Twitter. Is he ignorant or talking nonsense? So what was it that devalued Hayes as a player? Was it putting up the second highest point total of his career? Was it his selection to the All Star team? Speaking of ignorance. Nobody has said that Tortorella is not a good coach because he is old. I don't care if he was 85. It's because the game has past him by and his methods and strategy are obsolete. Tortorella is a huge concern moving forward in my opinion but hey, I'm just one of the ignorant.


"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"
- MJL

Everyone knows why he was an all star

Everyone knows why he was an all star
- Just5

Unfortunately

Everyone knows why he was an all star
- Just5

Would he have still been an All Star if he was having a horrible season?

Would he have still been an All Star if he was having a horrible season?
- MJL

He had a career high in points, but did he really have a good season? Is that a good season for anyone?

Would he have still been an All Star if he was having a horrible season?
- MJL

What kind of season was John Scott having when he got in?

All star games are meaningless

Astonishing return for PLD - does anyone believe this is a good trade?
- Thehawk67

Kings better win something before Dubois requests a trade in 24 mos.

Kings better win something before Dubois requests a trade in 24 mos.
- Tomahawk

Yeah he seems like a malcontent.

Kings better win something before Dubois requests a trade in 24 mos.
- Tomahawk

PLD seems like he would do great under McLellan....

Below is what Bill Meltzer had to say on Twitter. Is he ignorant or talking nonsense? So what was it that devalued Hayes as a player? Was it putting up the second highest point total of his career? Was it his selection to the All Star team? Speaking of ignorance. Nobody has said that Tortorella is not a good coach because he is old. I don't care if he was 85. It's because the game has past him by and his methods and strategy are obsolete. Tortorella is a huge concern moving forward in my opinion but hey, I'm just one of the ignorant.


"In a vacuum, the Hayes deal is brutal. But he was a devalued player who clearly HAD to be moved -- and had a big cap hit and 3 yrs of term left. So any trade was going to be unfavorable taken in its own right. At least no assets had to be included"
- MJL

This! Torts is a problem. He has one job: help with culture. He is hurting this franchise long term.

What kind of season was John Scott having when he got in?

All star games are meaningless
- Just5

Oh my God… John Scott!!!!! And they even let him score a goal or two. Hahahaha. Totally forgot about that fiasco!!!!

This! Torts is a problem. He has one job: help with culture. He is hurting this franchise long term.
- coffee junkie

Yeah the Flyers should of hired one of the young up and comers...like Sheldon Keefe!

Blackwood for a 6th

I remember hearing that Blackwood was like 5x better than Hart, guess that means Hart could net us a 7th!

This! Torts is a problem. He has one job: help with culture. He is hurting this franchise long term.
- coffee junkie

Today is a perfect illustration of what Tortorella’s job is the next three years. This team is going to suck bad while it rebuilds. Tortorella is here to take all the hate while Briere builds in the background. Surprising more fans can’t see it.

Blackwood for a 6th

I remember hearing that Blackwood was like 5x better than Hart, guess that means Hart could net us a 7th!
- Glak18

I imagine that Jersey will make their play for Hellebuyck now.

Today is a perfect illustration of what Tortorella’s job is the next three years. This team is going to suck bad while it rebuilds. Tortorella is here to take all the hate while Briere builds in the background. Surprising more fans can’t see it.
- psuhockey

Well, I’m starting to hate him!

Kings better win something before Dubois requests a trade in 24 mos.
- Tomahawk

I guess all of the Habs fans that thought his acquisition was in the bag are disappointed. I guess Hughes wouldn't cough up the goods.

He had a career high in points, but did he really have a good season? Is that a good season for anyone?
- Glak18

Was it a bad season? It was his second highest career total.