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Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:35 PM ET
This place is hilarious tonight
- bradster


Insert the meme of Abe Simpson doing an immediate 180 and exiting the building.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:35 PM ET
Weren’t you a moderator?
- landros 2


Maybe his Buzz Prime subscription ran out or he didn't fill his ban quota for the month.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:36 PM ET
Weren’t you a moderator?
- landros 2


He should self-report and banish himself.
iamscore2day
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 03.23.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:37 PM ET
Kucherov and Vasilevsky say hi.
- MBFlyerfan


So do Geno, the many Red Wings, Vladdy Daddy, Ovi and Kuzy.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:39 PM ET
So do Geno, the many Red Wings, Vladdy Daddy, Ovi and Kuzy.
- iamscore2day


Weird a lot of these players seem to be from certain teams...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:45 PM ET
Lesson of the day:

Don't sign players who have no value to long term contracts.

I keep going back to the JvR and Hayes signings. Terrible, terrible contracts from the beginning, yet the reasoning is you have to pay for the demand, but was there really demand?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
Lesson of the day:

Don't sign players who have no value to long term contracts.

I keep going back to the JvR and Hayes signings. Terrible, terrible contracts from the beginning, yet the reasoning is you have to pay for the demand, but was there really demand?

- Glak18


You can certainly argue that they weren't good signing but players with no value? That's an extreme stretch.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
You can certainly argue that they weren't good signing but players with no value? That's an extreme stretch.
- MJL


There isn't a coach out there that was going to "use Hayes better" LMAO

and if there is he's probably someone so young and innovative, you just haven't told us who yet
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:56 PM ET
You can certainly argue that they weren't good signing but players with no value? That's an extreme stretch.
- MJL


What did JvR get? Hayes? Ghost? Quite the coincidence that the Flyers have had so much issues with "no value" players.

I would think the Flyers have someone smart to think ahead and ask themselves when signing/re-signing a player...can we move them later if we have to?

Sometimes not signing someone is a better option. I am still thankful Gaudreau was never signed, I like him, but would of been terrible.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:56 PM ET
You can certainly argue that they weren't good signing but players with no value? That's an extreme stretch.
- MJL

The no thanks at the deadline to jvr at the end of his tenure was pretty telling
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
There isn't a coach out there that was going to "use Hayes better" LMAO

and if there is he's probably someone so young and innovative, you just haven't told us who yet

- black_francis


Rangers seemed pretty quick to unload Hayes and Winnipeg pretty much had no interest in re-signing him before the playoffs ended. I have a hard time believing another team was going to give Hayes that term with the money like the Flyers.

I think if the Flyers truly correct the problems with the organization I feel like they need to stop giving out sucker deals, which is probably what attracted many players in the past.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
What did JvR get? Hayes? Ghost? Quite the coincidence that the Flyers have had so much issues with "no value" players.

I would think the Flyers have someone smart to think ahead and ask themselves when signing/re-signing a player...can we move them later if we have to?

Sometimes not signing someone is a better option. I am still thankful Gaudreau was never signed, I like him, but would of been terrible.

- Glak18


What did JVR get? Five years after he was signed? When he was signed, he was coming off a 36 goal season and he had no value?
I definitely agree that sometimes not signing someone is a better option. No doubt but that doesn't mean that the Flyers signed players that had no value.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:03 PM ET
Rangers seemed pretty quick to unload Hayes and Winnipeg pretty much had no interest in re-signing him before the playoffs ended. I have a hard time believing another team was going to give Hayes that term with the money like the Flyers.

I think if the Flyers truly correct the problems with the organization I feel like they need to stop giving out sucker deals, which is probably what attracted many players in the past.

- Glak18


The Flyers need to stop trying to build the team by signing UFA players. Build through the draft, make smart trades and supplement to fill holes at the right time with UFA's if necessary.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 27 @ 10:03 PM ET
The Flyers have had bad luck with Russians and that is a fact. Out of the 26 Russian players that they have drafted since 1995 (or something like that) 19 of them NEVER played in the NHL. It's bad...really bad!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
The Flyers have had bad luck with Russians and that is a fact. Out of the 26 Russian players that they have drafted since 1995 (or something like that) 19 of them NEVER played in the NHL. It's bad...really bad!
- Phillywhiteout


How many Russian players did the Flyers draft in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds?

Looked it up. I count 7.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
What did JVR get? Five years after he was signed? When he was signed, he was coming off a 36 goal season and he had no value?
I definitely agree that sometimes not signing someone is a better option. No doubt but that doesn't mean that the Flyers signed players that had no value.

- MJL


I don't believe the narrative that players come to the Flyers and lose all their value. Even in Toronto during his career 36 goal season he was a PP specialist that played sparing minutes on the 3rd line. Comes to Flyers for 1st line money. No other team was giving him 7m a year...NO OTHER TEAM.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 27 @ 10:08 PM ET
I don't believe the narrative that players come to the Flyers and lose all their value. Even in Toronto during his career 36 goal season he was a PP specialist that played sparing minutes on the 3rd line. Comes to Flyers for 1st line money. No other team was giving him 7m a year...NO OTHER TEAM.
- Glak18
JVR's minutes also decreased come playoff time. He was getting 17 minutes under Babcock in the regular season and yet only managed 14 minutes average per playoff game. Not a good signing by Hextall. He signed a big softie and then Chuckles followed it up by signing another big softie (Hayes) to a 7 year contract. The last two GMs here absolutely sucked. No other way to look at it. Danny has his work cut out for him to clean up the mess from the last 2 GMs here.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jun 27 @ 10:09 PM ET
How many Russian players did the Flyers draft in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds?
- MJL
Don't know...that part wasn't mentioned.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:10 PM ET
I don't believe the narrative that players come to the Flyers and lose all their value. Even in Toronto during his career 36 goal season he was a PP specialist that played sparing minutes on the 3rd line. Comes to Flyers for 1st line money. No other team was giving him 7m a year...NO OTHER TEAM.
- Glak18



That's a different argument than they had no value. We also don't know for a fact that no other team would.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:19 PM ET
Don't know...that part wasn't mentioned.
- Phillywhiteout


Seven. The best were Provorov and Danius Zubrus.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:21 PM ET
Seven. The best were Provorov and Danius Zubrus.
- MJL


Was Lithuania part of Russia when Zubs was drafted?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:26 PM ET
Was Lithuania part of Russia when Zubs was drafted?
- Glak18



https://www.hockey-refere.../players/z/zubruda01.html


Born: June 16, 1978 (Age: 45-011d) in Elektrenai, USSR
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:27 PM ET
So Deangelo (50% retained) to Carolina for Rizzo? I'm assuming that's the deal.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:37 PM ET
Haha come on man, you’re the one losing your sh!t over the Norris
- ClaudeFather

I’m not losing my poop. I’m making points you can’t counter. You’re the one calling names. If you’re gonna put your balls on the table by calling someone dumb and stupid, what do you have to counter?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:41 PM ET
Maxime Comtois, 24 LW

Not receiving a QO from Anaheim. If it was a 1-2 yr term for a tryme price, I would be interested.
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