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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:47 AM ET
Is Detroit's 9 too much to ask?
- Sinisalo4vr

Depends on where their GM thinks they are and does he want to ext him at some point?

you can make a case either way. If that was offered I think it would have probably come out by now imo.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
I don't trade TK unless I am getting a top 10 pick in this draft. On Laughton the Flyers should trade him for 1st round pick in the 20s. That would be a good return for Laughton, plus I feel the Flyers owe him a chance to compete for a cup before its too late for him to.
- jd250



What teams picking in the top ten are in a position to be wanting to trade that pick for a player like Konecny?

Maybe Detroit?


hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
Jonesy apparently said that on WIP yesterday.
- Feanor

said he cant hire any more friends?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
Are you willing to sign Konecny to a $8+ caphit at 28 years old for 7-8 years in two seasons?

If not, what does holding onto Konecny accomplish over the next two seasons and do you think his trade values increases from now to actually acquire a top ten pick?

- psuhockey


If they are retaining on Hayes, Angelo and a rental like Walker this season, then they could possibly get a bigger haul for TK by trading him in 2024-25 with retention.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
said he cant hire any more friends?
- hello it's me 2050


The way I saw it described was that KJ said the hardest part of his job was running out of positions to offer all his buddies.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:49 AM ET
If they are retaining on Hayes, Angelo and a rental like Walker this season, then they could possibly get a bigger haul for TK by trading him in 2024-25 with retention.
- Feanor

too much can go wrong if you wait that long. Just purge the team now. I have to imagine they are getting good offers. Not slop.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
Interesting ….Lebrun said MTL wants to be in on PLD, but don’t have the NHL ready players to make that happen…perhaps Danny boy could become a third player there. The Flyers have a few guys like Sanheim, Konecny, Hart and Laughton…..not to mention guys like Hayes and TDA….the Habs have something the Flyers covet. The #5 tomorrow night.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
The way I saw it described was that KJ said the hardest part of his job was running out of positions to offer all his buddies.
- Feanor

was it tongue in cheek though? Would be pretty funny if it wasnt.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Which is good for next season as it ensures extra Ls.

After that, maybe a playoff team gets pushed around and wants extra 'grit' and ND agrees to go. Who knows. So many things to fix and can't do it all at once.

- atibus


Roster spots should be open for younger players and not taken up by a stiff that can't play.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
was it tongue in cheek though? Would be pretty funny if it wasnt.
- hello it's me 2050

It’s always tongue in cheek with him
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
What teams picking in the top ten are in a position to be wanting to trade that pick for a player like Konecny?

Maybe Detroit?

- MBFlyerfan


I think them or maybe even the Caps if indeed they can’t move up for Michkov or he’s off the board.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
Not a good look for Danny & company these last few days. I know they can't control everything but these potential deals should not be leaked out like this before they actually happen. Both the St. Louis and Carolina deals are essentially dead, though the hope is Carolina will just wait a week and then do the deal. Only the Flyers can somehow violate an obscure CBA rule!
- jd250


Deals leak out from every team and unless Briere & Co. are the ones doing the leaking, then that has nothing to do with them. It's not an obscure CBA rule.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:54 AM ET
said he cant hire any more friends?
- hello it's me 2050

Said a whole bunch of guys that are friends want to work for the Flyers….but there’s only so many jobs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:58 AM ET
I think them or maybe even the Caps if indeed they can’t move up for Michkov or he’s off the board.
- landros 2

that to me is the best shot at a top 10 for TK. Assuming Wash is not going to "rebuild". Take Mantha as a cap dump who you can move later.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jun 27 @ 9:59 AM ET
Deals leak out from every team and unless Briere & Co. are the ones doing the leaking, then that has nothing to do with them. It's not an obscure CBA rule.
- MJL


It shouldn't be obscure to the Flyers. They're the reason the rule was created in the first place.
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:01 AM ET
Roster spots should be open for younger players and not taken up by a stiff that can't play.
- MJL


In a perfect world where Torts isn't the coach, sure. Having Torts play a kid for 7-10 minutes a night and playing mind games with them... I'd rather they be in the AHL with ra-ra Lappy.

I'm agreeing with you; I'd rather not have ND.



black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: tied up at a diddy party, YT
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:01 AM ET
Roster spots should be open for younger players and not taken up by a stiff that can't play.
- MJL


It’s like you don’t understand how team sports operate when there isn’t a spreadsheet to refer to 😂

I’m confident you’ve never had a teammate in…anything really
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:02 AM ET
was it tongue in cheek though? Would be pretty funny if it wasnt.
- hello it's me 2050


It seems like it was more Jonesy trying to hype up what a great place to work Philly is. He doesn't seem to understand or care that the Flyers look like the league's poster child for cronysim.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
In a perfect world where Torts isn't the coach, sure. Having Torts play a kid for 7-10 minutes a night and playing mind games with them... I'd rather they be in the AHL with ra-ra Lappy.

I'm agreeing with you; I'd rather not have ND.

- atibus


I certainly don't want a young player sitting or playing low minutes but the question I have is why would that be with a team in the Flyers position? Tortorella says that the Flyers need to get younger but had to be talked to by management to play younger players more. I agree with you on Tortorella and his nonsense.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
There's a deal to be made with the Jets,


Flip Krug & SL

For

Wheeler 24 1st, 25 2nd rd pick


then flip Wheeler at the deadline for more assets.

Heck i would tell most of the guys i acquire that this is our time frame and if your age doesnt fit in with that then prepare to be moved.

- Flyerloon

If Krug won't waive to come here, I doubt he will waive to go to Winnipeg. Maybe there is a deal for Sanheim with Winnipeg though, if Briere is still trying to move him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
It seems like it was more Jonesy trying to hype up what a great place to work Philly is. He doesn't seem to understand or care that the Flyers look like the league's poster child for cronysim.
- Feanor


He is the only president of hockey ops in the NHL that is essentially the teams head cheerleader. After, he stated the Flyers are the gold standard of the NHL.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jun 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
It seems like it was more Jonesy trying to hype up what a great place to work Philly is. He doesn't seem to understand or care that the Flyers look like the league's poster child for cronysim.
- Feanor


The entire HNL is based on cronyism. EVERY TEAM does basically the same thing. Bill even had a post about this previously.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
It shouldn't be obscure to the Flyers. They're the reason the rule was created in the first place.

- Letterkenney


I'm not recalling what you're referring to.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:11 AM ET
The entire HNL is based on cronyism. EVERY TEAM does basically the same thing. Bill even had a post about this previously.
- Letterkenney


To a certain extent but nowhere near the level that the Flyers do.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 27 @ 10:11 AM ET
If Krug won't waive to come here, I doubt he will waive to go to Winnipeg. Maybe there is a deal for Sanheim with Winnipeg though, if Briere is still trying to move him.
- TobyFlenderson

Unlike past GMs, I would like to believe that Briere has already pivoted to other plans.
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