Seems like the only options left will require dramatic change/s.
ROR was supposedly a leader…so lead. Maybe he left because he’d rather not have that pressure/responsibility placed on him as his career winds down.
It may have nothing to do with, “Problems in the dressing room” as rumoured now.
All indication pointed to this team being fairly close.
- Woderwick

I have a feeling he didn't like being the 3rd line centre. I think it's that simple.

Meh haven't won with them
Trade whoever, make this team more balanced.
Having 50 million tied up in 5 players is holding this team back. 4 of the 6 players we acquired that improved the team walked out the door for nothing. The type of players more assets will be wasted on to acquire at the deadline. We paid 4m (klinberg) for the the type of player that we could have resigned for 1m (Gus)
Still time for change and improvements but damn it doesn't look good so far.
- Fakepartofme

Lots of lateral moves and nothing that inspires confidence.

Letting Schenn walk to sign Reaves.

Letting Killorn walk to sign Sheary.

Both wanted to stay.

Briesbois used up all of his cap voodoo years ago and Shanny just keeps reshuffling the same failed formula.

There’s no way to implement that kind of thing without creating much more cap uncertainty for teams and players. Between federal, state/provincial and local taxes you’d have 32 different cap situations that potentially change every year as governments change their tax regimes. Even players on the same team face different tax burdens because of the different tax treaties between Canada, the US and other countries.

The tax problems are over-stated anyway since no players actually pay the posted tax rates. For example, most very likely defer a lot of their income (and taxes on it) until they retire when they can pay at a lower rate or in another jurisdiction.
- Canada Cup

I don't know about the U.S., but you just described and RRSP in Canada and you can contribute 18%.

I don't think there is a ton of voodoo you can pull off to make up for the difference in taxes.

It looks (frank)ing awful.

Klingberg? Reaves? Keep going with these kind of decisions and a playoff spot will be a question.
- Aetherial

Klingberg is a turnstile. -25 in Dallas. He's basically a RH version of Gustafsson and costs over 3M more. Reaves is 36 years old. A THREE year deal?

WTF.

Some media speculating O Reilly also not enamored with Sheldon Keefe.

I don't know about the U.S., but you just described and RRSP in Canada and you can contribute 18%.

I don't think there is a ton of voodoo you can pull off to make up for the difference in taxes.
- Aetherial

You can put more into Retirement Compensation Arrangements (30-40% of your salary depending on your age) and save quite a bit depending on where you retire.

Klingberg is a turnstile. -25 in Dallas. He's basically a RH version of Gustafsson and costs over 3M more. Reaves is 36. A THREE year deal?

WTF.

Some media speculating O Reilly not enamored with Sheldon Keefe.
- fifty__missions

Isn’t Schenn besties with O’Rielly?

Treliving said something about how the team is not just about the Core 4, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ROR is on about.

But who knows. Nashville is a pretty great place to live, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more to do with that: 4.5mm doesn’t get you very much in Toronto if you want a family home with space for the kids to run around.

NYR will win the east 😔

Also, Why would Lou give Varlamov 2.75m x 4 when he just signed Sorokin to 8x 8.25m 🤷
(Not to mention the 7 years for 🦒 and Mayfield)

Hathaway also gone

I’d still sign Motte

I’m not sure that there was a player available that would move the needle much for any team. It will have to be trades. As for O’Reilly saying it wasn’t about money wtf is he supposed to say, that he only signed with his new team because they paid him more?

I’m not sure that there was a player available that would move the needle much for any team. It will have to be trades. As for O’Reilly saying it wasn’t about money wtf is he supposed to say, that he only signed with his new team because they paid him more?
- shack67

So...Nylander?

We have nothing else to deal.

Isn’t Schenn besties with O’Rielly?

Treliving said something about how the team is not just about the Core 4, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ROR is on about.

But who knows. Nashville is a pretty great place to live, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more to do with that: 4.5mm doesn’t get you very much in Toronto if you want a family home with space for the kids to run around.
- gravyface

4.5m gets you plenty specially if you are already a millionaire and you're gonna make another 9m over the next two years.

Uggggh

I’m not sure that there was a player available that would move the needle much for any team. It will have to be trades. As for O’Reilly saying it wasn’t about money wtf is he supposed to say, that he only signed with his new team because they paid him more?
- shack67

Probably that he prefers Morgan Wallen to Roosevelt.

p.s. I hope Morgan Wallen is a country music star...because I don't know any.

Dubas picking up Accari again makes sense.

I’m not sure that there was a player available that would move the needle much for any team. It will have to be trades. As for O’Reilly saying it wasn’t about money wtf is he supposed to say, that he only signed with his new team because they paid him more?
- shack67

I don't see it as impact player more about making the small moves so you don't take a step back and create more holes or fail to fill the ones you have.

Doesn't seem to me Tree had a fall back plan if LS and ROR left. Not to mention Bunting and gulp.. Holl.

Granted only Day 1.. can't help to think Connor Clifton might have been a nice add for the money he got in Buffalo.

Or keeping LS and adding Hathaway instead of Reeves and JK.

Isn’t Schenn besties with O’Rielly?

Treliving said something about how the team is not just about the Core 4, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what ROR is on about.

But who knows. Nashville is a pretty great place to live, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was more to do with that: 4.5mm doesn’t get you very much in Toronto if you want a family home with space for the kids to run around.
- gravyface

I lived near Memphis for a while and the tax-free nature of the state only extends to income tax. States like Florida and Tennessee make up that revenue in other ways. Every little thing has a local tax or service fee involved. These apply to residents and non-residents.

Want to stay in a hotel or BnB? - service charge, impact fee, tourism tax, sales tax, howboutyaloveme tax.

Buying gas or necessities - state tax, local tax, road impact tax, etc.

Taking a poop? - poop tax, TP fee, surcharge for left-handed wiping,

They milk tourists and residents down here in Florida. Not sure what Tennessee is like now, but probably the same.

The cost of living down here is extreme. Highest inflation rates for rent and goods.

You'll need that lack of state income tax to pay for a rundown studio apartment that costs $2300 a month.

So...Nylander?

We have nothing else to deal.
- fifty__missions

You can say the same for any contender who went all in at the deadline to try to win. Has everyone forgotten what Tampa gave up for Tanner Jeannot?

You can say the same for any contender who went all in at the deadline to try to win. Has everyone forgotten what Tampa gave up for Tanner Jeannot?
- shack67

We gave up a boatload ourselves at the deadline and got ourselves....Sam Lafferty.

You can say the same for any contender who went all in at the deadline to try to win. Has everyone forgotten what Tampa gave up for Tanner Jeannot?
- shack67

Tampa has less than $3M in cap space left to sign Jeannot and pay for a backup goalie.

We gave up a boatload ourselves at the deadline and got ourselves....Sam Lafferty.
- fifty__missions

If you include all the assets given up at the deadline for players the Leafs just let walk, then the cost for Laff approaches that of Jeannot.

Tampa has less than $3M in cap space left to sign Jeannot and pay for a backup goalie.
- Canada Cup

Tampa doesn't need a backup goalie. Vasi starts 80 games and the zamboni driver gets two starts.

Jeannot will win the Rocket next year. Mark my words.

I have a feeling he didn't like being the 3rd line centre. I think it's that simple.
- Archaic

It does make the most sense.

We gave up a boatload ourselves at the deadline and got ourselves....Sam Lafferty.
- fifty__missions

There’s a reason why these guys are called rentals.

I’m not sure that there was a player available that would move the needle much for any team. It will have to be trades. As for O’Reilly saying it wasn’t about money wtf is he supposed to say, that he only signed with his new team because they paid him more?
- shack67

Assuming they punt Murray and re-up Sammy they've got about ~8M to spend on two forwards. Bertuzzi, Domi, Tartar ...?

The Klingberg signing makes me less hopeful of a deal for Pesce or Hanafin.

Does anyone have any nice fancy stats to make me feel better about Klingberg? Last I saw of him he was getting tossed around by Matt Tkachuk. Perfect ....

The Canadian tax thing I don't get...

One of my sisters and husband and 4 kids make about 550 a yr... live over in forest hill south and have no problem having a great life in Toronto taxes and all.
So I don't see how a single guy or even a family guy making over a mil and most times way way more have any concern at all with this tax issue that some are making it out to be.

It is probably a complete non factor to these guys..

There’s a reason why these guys are called rentals.
- shack67

There's also a reason our cupboard is now bare.