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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Congrats but damn! Is that the sound of Jumanji-like impending doom I'm hearing?

Hopefully she just comes back with a love of the Habs and a Caufield jersey and not a french husband...especially named Scabeth

- underhill14

dats pure evil
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
Don’t worry, McGill isn’t legally in Quebec. She’ll be fine
- Canada Cup


The Habs unites us all.

More than Canada.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:42 PM ET


She'll have a blast no doubt.

- Scabeh

I think her decision was 33% McGill, 67% living in downtown Montreal.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
In case it wasn’t noticed I’ve already openly admitted to being wrong about Bertuzzi being willing to sign in Canada, like his playing style but I don’t like him, he’s proven he’s the type that puts himself first. He’ll be productive as hell on Matthews’ wing tho and his defensive liability will have another winger like Marner making up for it.

Domi I'm liking, no evidence to think it but I have a gut feeling playing for the leafs will amp him up a bit.

I’m thinking these signings are due to Keefe having more of a say, they’re pretty much more talented versions of what he was.

Interested in this upcoming season due to this tbh.

- Dozzer

I want more greasy goals.

I love Pat Quinn hockey. Crash the net, start scrums, win fights. No more playing on the perimeter, water-bugging around.

The Leafs have to change their style.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think her decision was 33% McGill, 67% living in downtown Montreal.
- Atomic Wedgie


Yes well that's why I didn't start with "she'll have a great education".

But it IS a good school.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:44 PM ET
Yes well that's why I didn't start with "she'll have a great education".

But it IS a good school.

- Scabeh

Her friend didn’t get accepted to Life Sciences.

Kid had a 97% average.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 3 @ 3:46 PM ET
Her friend didn’t get accepted to Life Sciences.

Kid had a 97% average.

- Atomic Wedgie

and you're sure you are the father??
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:47 PM ET
This is entirely on Bettman. He's been a failure at growing the game and this is a good example of what is holding the NHL back. Another is his failure to promote and protect its star players. Since 2005 (beginning of cap) the cap has gone from $39M to $83.5M in the NHL. Over the same period, the NBA has gone from $49.5M to $136M currently. If a player tries to goon one of the opponent's star players in the NBA - he's tossed out of the game - playoffs or not. As poor as the officiating is in the NBA - it is significantly superior to the NHL especially in the playoffs. If a team is not pulling their weight financially, they are moved in short order.
- winsix


I don’t like Bettman but since he took over the league has increased by 8 teams and is notably more popular in the US.

As for the cap increase comparison it’s not as far off as you think. Roughly: NBA: 275% increase and NHL: 215%. This isn’t surprising tbh since the NBA is far more popular in the US than the NHL is.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
I want more greasy goals.

I love Pat Quinn hockey. Crash the net, start scrums, win fights. No more playing on the perimeter, water-bugging around.

The Leafs have to change their style.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I’ve been curious as to this being the reason Keefe is being kept. Maybe he has been wanting to do things differently without the support of his GM which he now has. We’ll see I guess.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
I’m not sure what is going on with Twitter, but from what I gather from the owner’s tweets, apparently we can blame transsexuals.

For everything.

Except for forest fires, which of course are caused by Jewish space lasers.

These are interesting times.

- Atomic Wedgie


id like it if you have a blue check on twitter that you wear a blue check on your forehead in real life
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
and you're sure you are the father??
- 21peter

The friend had a 97.

My idiot daughter only had a 96.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 3:49 PM ET
I don’t like Bettman but since he took over the league has increased by 8 teams and is notably more popular in the US.

As for the cap increase comparison it’s not as far off as you think. Roughly: NBA: 275% increase and NHL: 215%. This isn’t surprising tbh since the NBA is far more popular in the US than the NHL is.

- Dozzer

It’s hard to compare Bettman’s legacy to whoever else would’ve been commissioner. Would the other guy have locked out the league 3 times?

If Canada started it’s own hockey league, the NHL would have a hard time surviving with only a few markets left as cash cows. Especially since more Canadian players would stay in Canada.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
I’ve been curious as to this being the reason Keefe is being kept. Maybe he has been wanting to do things differently without the support of his GM which he now has. We’ll see I guess.
- Dozzer

I think it is.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
This is entirely on Bettman. He's been a failure at growing the game and this is a good example of what is holding the NHL back. Another is his failure to promote and protect its star players. Since 2005 (beginning of cap) the cap has gone from $39M to $83.5M in the NHL. Over the same period, the NBA has gone from $49.5M to $136M currently. If a player tries to goon one of the opponent's star players in the NBA - he's tossed out of the game - playoffs or not. As poor as the officiating is in the NBA - it is significantly superior to the NHL especially in the playoffs. If a team is not pulling their weight financially, they are moved in short order.
- winsix

And here’s the thing: I give credit to Bettman for a lot of things: he saved a lot of Canadian franchises. He expanded the game to a lot of non-traditional markets - which took a lot of years and patience.

And on paper, staying in Phoenix - the 5th largest TV market in the US - makes sense.

But it’s been a franking train wreck after train wreck. Every single owner turns out to be worse than the failed owner before.

It’s now an embarrassment to the league.

It probably made sense to not allow relocation until there were 32 teams.

But now that they’ve collected the Seattle expansion fees, it’s time to let the Arizona experiment die.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 3 @ 3:57 PM ET
And here’s the thing: I give credit to Bettman for a lot of things: he saved a lot of Canadian franchises. He expanded the game to a lot of non-traditional markets - which took a lot of years and patience.

And on paper, staying in Phoenix - the 5th largest TV market in the US - makes sense.

But it’s been a franking train wreck after train wreck. Every single owner turns out to be worse than the failed owner before.

It’s now an embarrassment to the league.

It probably made sense to not allow relocation until there were 32 teams.

But now that they’ve collected the Seattle expansion fees, it’s time to let the Arizona experiment die.

- Atomic Wedgie


And move a team to Atlanta!

For the third time!

Because this time it's gonna work.

Right?
Leaffrog
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.30.2018

Jul 3 @ 3:57 PM ET
I don’t like Bettman but since he took over the league has increased by 8 teams and is notably more popular in the US.

As for the cap increase comparison it’s not as far off as you think. Roughly: NBA: 275% increase and NHL: 215%. This isn’t surprising tbh since the NBA is far more popular in the US than the NHL is.

- Dozzer


I don't understand this hate on for Bettman. Except the hard cap does screw the Leaf fans dearly.

And it doesn't surprise me one bit that Basketball is more popular. And far more popular all over the world as well.

But you have to imagine that the Atlanta and Phoenix failures along with no best on best hockey for a couple of decades has to hurt the growth in North America and worldwide. Just that alone would have allowed some extra growth for sure.

Plus the higher salaries for the ball stars adds to it all.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
I don’t like Bettman but since he took over the league has increased by 8 teams and is notably more popular in the US.

As for the cap increase comparison it’s not as far off as you think. Roughly: NBA: 275% increase and NHL: 215%. This isn’t surprising tbh since the NBA is far more popular in the US than the NHL is.

- Dozzer


If we are talking in terms of business models. There is no franchise in the NBA anywhere close to being as poorly run as the Coyotes, it simply isn't tolerated. In terms of growing the game, each business unit has to pull its weight or they are moved. This isn't the case in the NHL. You have to ask the question why is the NBA more popular. Do you think that the fact that during the NHL playoffs the rules are changed and resemble roller-derby or WWE rules giving it far less credibility?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
It’s hard to compare Bettman’s legacy to whoever else would’ve been commissioner. Would the other guy have locked out the league 3 times?

If Canada started it’s own hockey league, the NHL would have a hard time surviving with only a few markets left as cash cows. Especially since more Canadian players would stay in Canada.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Not necessarily true. Canada isn’t near as wealthy as the US. The owners want what’s happening or Bettman would no longer be employed. A sport is a sport yay but the reason leagues exist is to generate as much money as possible.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
Chris Johnston on the CJ Show says it's not going well between the Leafs and William Nylander, they just see the world differently.

Nylander believes he should be a $10 million player or just a little above that on his next contract, whereas the Leafs have come at him with a number in the $8 million range.




Willy and Samsonov for Hellybuck, Nino Neider, 1st, Prospect (decent one)


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 3 @ 4:03 PM ET
Look at you spitballing Nylander trade parameters.

Is it possible that Trad Beleafing is....the one that unites us all??

#tree-live, tree-laugh, tree-love

😂

- fifty__missions


Nylander is great.

If he wants 10M it just won’t happen here.

Best case scenario is he signs for 9M or under.

If not, I hope Treliving gets a player who is Nylander level in talent and not make this team worse.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jul 3 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't understand this hate on for Bettman. Except the hard cap does screw the Leaf fans dearly.

And it doesn't surprise me one bit that Basketball is more popular. And far more popular all over the world as well.

But you have to imagine that the Atlanta and Phoenix failures along with no best on best hockey for a couple of decades has to hurt the growth in North America and worldwide. Just that alone would have allowed some extra growth for sure.

Plus the higher salaries for the ball stars adds to it all.

- Leaffrog


The southern US is a damn challenge but these are people who aren’t living in a part of the world where you can just toss on ice skates and head out to the pond in mid winter since it’s not frozen. Not to mention going to play hockey is more expensive than basketball or baseball or football so that doesn’t help either.

So long as US born players keep rising and thriving the growth in the US is working, only Canadians wouldn’t understand why it’s not faster lol.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 3 @ 4:03 PM ET
And move a team to Atlanta!

For the third time!

Because this time it's gonna work.

Right?

- Scabeh

Houston, Kansas City and Atlanta for two expansions and one relocation. Probably KC first when the Coyotes crawl out of the desert.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 3 @ 4:05 PM ET
If we are talking in terms of business models. There is no franchise in the NBA anywhere close to being as poorly run as the Coyotes, it simply isn't tolerated. In terms of growing the game, each business unit has to pull its weight or they are moved. This isn't the case in the NHL. You have to ask the question why is the NBA more popular. Do you think that the fact that during the NHL playoffs the rules are changed and resemble roller-derby or WWE rules giving it far less credibility?
- winsix

Remember when after the lockout, the NHL cracked down on obstruction, and many more penalties were called every game, and people complained at first, but the end result was much, much, much more exciting hockey?

I ask because the NHL doesn’t remember.

They don’t remember at all.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 3 @ 4:05 PM ET
I don't understand this hate on for Bettman. Except the hard cap does screw the Leaf fans dearly.

And it doesn't surprise me one bit that Basketball is more popular. And far more popular all over the world as well.

But you have to imagine that the Atlanta and Phoenix failures along with no best on best hockey for a couple of decades has to hurt the growth in North America and worldwide. Just that alone would have allowed some extra growth for sure.

Plus the higher salaries for the ball stars adds to it all.

- Leaffrog



The higher salaries are a factor of the higher cap and the fact that teams have 6 starters vs 23 players on an NHL lineup. The worldwide appeal of basketball doesn't push the needle for North American growth. Have you been to a Toronto FC game?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 3 @ 4:06 PM ET
Treliving told Klingberg there is more he is going to work on the he blue line.

-Klingberg
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