Wonder if there is anything around Willy and Debrincat.

Like I said earlier if a team trades for Nylander and signs him 7x10M, said team only needs to pay him 2.5M this year.

So it is a 8x9ishM in actual salary over 8 years.

Something Ottawa would be interested in being poor as (frank).
- Santo_44

Read somewhere that DeBrincat is looking for Meier $ so pass.

They are based on Trees overall style he likes his teams to play and feedback from the team.

"Treliving spoke to the players and front office and learned the following:

•Lack of transition from defense to offense
•Lack of overall team toughness
•Lack of locker room identity and overall team bonding
•Too many jack of all trade types"

Then he addressed it all.
- Fakepartofme

I’m watching his interview rn..

I love this guy. He’s saying all the right things. He has a certain poise when he’s speaking, a more serious person than Kyle. I think Sheldon is going to coach better this year, with the type of players he wants.

Leafs could still use Nylander to get a Wilson or Kadri type player, really make other teams hate playing them.

It’s more than fair he’s a new GM, but is this also why Keefe remains the coach? Because he’s wanted this as well and it was Dubas causing the headache?

A guess I know but that’s why I’m interested to see what the game style will be this season, similar or notably different?
- Dozzer

Ya we'll see how keefe does, hopefully less line blending and no holl to overuse.

I’m watching his interview rn..

I love this guy. He’s saying all the right things. He has a certain poise when he’s speaking, a more serious person than Kyle. I think Sheldon is going to coach better this year, with the type of players he wants.

Leafs could still use Nylander to get a Wilson or Kadri type player, really make other teams hate playing them.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Wilson is too old. Get the next wilson.
Apparently both bert and domi wanted long term deals with the leafs.
I could see bert getting extended mid season.
Specially if willy is traded.

The friend had a 97.

My idiot daughter only had a 96.
- Atomic Wedgie

must be awful for you

Ya we'll see how keefe does, hopefully less line blending and no holl to overuse.
- Fakepartofme

Their D worries me a touch but apparently there’s work being done still?

Rielly Brodie (talented but not overly physical)
McCabe Klingberg (less defensive shutdown pair but more offensive, not overly physical either)
Gio, Liljegren, Timmins (well rounded guys but also not overly physical)

It’s hard to compare Bettman’s legacy to whoever else would’ve been commissioner. Would the other guy have locked out the league 3 times?

If Canada started it’s own hockey league, the NHL would have a hard time surviving with only a few markets left as cash cows. Especially since more Canadian players would stay in Canada.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Wilson is too old. Get the next wilson.
Apparently both bert and domi wanted long term deals with the leafs.
I could see bert getting extended mid season.
Specially if willy is traded.
- Fakepartofme

Well no one seems to like my Nylander for Xhekaj + trade proposal.

I think Knies, Domi, Bertuzzi, and Klingberg more than make up for Willys lost production. Torontos problem was that they relied on the top 4 players to always get the job done. They need a more balanced fwd group. They Leafs simply don’t score enough goals for the amount of talent they have, or had.

Read somewhere that DeBrincat is looking for Meier $ so pass.
- Canada Cup

Tarasenkshow for 1 year?

Depends who they brought back for Nylander.

Ugh, I just prefer he signs for a fair deal here.

- AdamFrench

Canadian league won’t have a cap

Leafs could sign McDavid, MacKinnon, Point, Makar !!!

Then do a champions league type thing with the NHL and maybe 1 or 2 teams in Europe.

Wilson is too old. Get the next wilson.
Apparently both bert and domi wanted long term deals with the leafs.
I could see bert getting extended mid season.
Specially if willy is traded.
- Fakepartofme

Kick the can to January.

Should work out well for both players if they want to sign.

Their D worries me a touch but apparently there’s work being done still?

Rielly Brodie (talented but not overly physical)
McCabe Klingberg (less defensive shutdown pair but more offensive, not overly physical either)
Gio, Liljegren, Timmins (well rounded guys but also not overly physical)
- Dozzer

If willy ask for too much, maybe a trade for defensive minded big dman and a 50pt winger?
Who would that be? Dunno, would have to dig deeper.

Edit:
Logan stanley and perfetti for willy
But i doubt willy signs in the peg

Their D worries me a touch but apparently there’s work being done still?

Rielly Brodie (talented but not overly physical)
McCabe Klingberg (less defensive shutdown pair but more offensive, not overly physical either)
Gio, Liljegren, Timmins (well rounded guys but also not overly physical)
- Dozzer

Ya the d isn’t bad at all though eh. It’s a weird one for me you know. I would say the D is good as is if you had a better legit NHL starter tender.
But if not - I think it needs a better pure physical defensive dman added and another banger for the bottom 6 that can put up 20-30pts

Well no one seems to like my Nylander for Xhekaj + trade proposal.

I think Knies, Domi, Bertuzzi, and Klingberg more than make up for Willys lost production. Torontos problem was that they relied on the top 4 players to always get the job done. They need a more balanced fwd group. They Leafs simply don’t score enough goals for the amount of talent they have, or had.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

For all the reasons you listed man - that’s why I’d move Marner. No way in hell he will ever be worth his next deal when he’s already at a disaster number for a winger.
That said if what I’m reading about Willy (10+) is his thought then yup - trade him immediately to fill and balance the roster cause he too won’t live up to that either.

Tarasenkshow for 1 year?

Depends who they brought back for Nylander.

Ugh, I just prefer he signs for a fair deal here.
- Santo_44

If you’re going to do that, keep Willie for the year.

Canadian league won’t have a cap

Leafs could sign McDavid, MacKinnon, Point, Makar !!!

Then do a champions league type thing with the NHL and maybe 1 or 2 teams in Europe.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You play for the team of the province you were born (your choice of 2 teams same province). Players from the coast or up in the territories get put into draft with the euros and Americans.

Edit: just having some fun folks - no need to lecture me on the business aspects of a joke concept.

For all the reasons you listed man - that’s why I’d move Marner. No way in hell he will ever be worth his next deal when he’s already at a disaster number for a winger.
That said if what I’m reading about Willy (10+) is his thought then yup - trade him immediately to fill and balance the roster cause he too won’t live up to that either.
- Big23Questions

I think Marner has done everything expected of him when he signed that contract. Marner checks so many more boxes than Willy, and he consistently puts up 20 more pts a season than Willy. They’re both wimps, they’re both high skill offensive players. But the comparisons stop there. Defence, hockey IQ, passing, positioning, compete level all go to Marner.

If willy ask for too much, maybe a trade for defensive minded big dman and a 50pt winger?
Who would that be? Dunno, would have to dig deeper.

Edit:
Logan stanley and perfetti for willy
But i doubt willy signs in the peg
- Fakepartofme

I think the biggest complication of trading Willy is that any team you are trading him to would have to agree to an extension prior to the trade to get full value on the trade. That would limit the destinations even further. He would basically have to tell Tree whcih cities he would sign extensions with.

Had he stayed healthy, yes.
Forsberg is one of my all time favourite players, and the dictionary example of warrior. Lindros his first year or two was just a force of nature though. Gretzky in the body of a goon.
- oldstyle

Lindros was awesome! Score all the big goals and beat the hell out of your tough guy along the way. Fabulous player.

O-Dog who saw him upclose agrees.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

And that is no slag on Forsberg at all. Fors was like a better version of Gilmore, but he was still just normal human size.

Lindros was awesome! Score all the big goals and beat the hell out of your tough guy along the way. Fabulous player.
- Bullot

Wouldn't even bother beating the guy up, just skate to the net with the guy on his back.

LOL.
Sounds like a fishing story.

You play for the team of the province you were born (your choice of 2 teams same province). Players from the coast or up in the territories get put into draft with the euros and Americans.

Edit: just having some fun folks - no need to lecture me on the business aspects of a joke concept.
- Big23Questions

Fun concept lol.

I’d like for cities too small to have a team (Sudbury, Thunder Bay, London, Halifax, Saskatoon etc) be put into a league where you can advance out of. Like in England

I think Marner has done everything expected of him when he signed that contract. Marner checks so many more boxes than Willy, and he consistently puts up 20 more pts a season than Willy. They’re both wimps, they’re both high skill offensive players. But the comparisons stop there. Defence, hockey IQ, passing, positioning, compete level all go to Marner.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Mitch checks off the PK box. That’s the only box.

Defence - NEITHER

Hockey IQ - equal

Offence - take away the secondary assists and it’s equal

Passing - Marner

Shooting scoring - Willy

Skating - Willy (Mitch is great with edges east west but not speed)

Positioning - NEITHER

Compete - Marner (regular season only when it’s not physical)

Overall I agree. Marner is better. He is absolutely by no means millions and millions better. Frankly at their current salaries I’d take Willy all day long.

If willy ask for too much, maybe a trade for defensive minded big dman and a 50pt winger?
Who would that be? Dunno, would have to dig deeper.

Edit:
Logan stanley and perfetti for willy
But i doubt willy signs in the peg
- Fakepartofme

I have no clue what is being thought out here. Teams will also likely want to know what Willy wants contract wise before they figure out what they’d be willing to pay. (Since he previously sat out it’s a safe bet he’ll be willing to walk next July if no extension has been put in place)

Fun concept lol.

I’d like for cities too small to have a team (Sudbury, Thunder Bay, London, Halifax, Saskatoon etc) be put into a league where you can advance out of. Like in England
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs!