Jeremy Laura
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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TheSeer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Mankato, MN Joined: 07.12.2021
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It's unfortunate but Zadina just couldn't break through..I hope someone takes him.
Wouldn't be surprised if Veleno is close behind. Stevie still cleaning house from when Holland was in charge. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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It's unfortunate but Zadina just couldn't break through..I hope someone takes him.
Wouldn't be surprised if Veleno is close behind. Stevie still cleaning house from when Holland was in charge. - TheSeer
Still a useful bottom 6 guy as much as anyone wants to hate they didn't take Hughes. I'm pretty over Yzerman right now. |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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Still a useful bottom 6 guy as much as anyone wants to hate they didn't take Hughes. I'm pretty over Yzerman right now. - Feds91Stammer
I think he’s better than some of what we’ve kept. All I can think is that if the Dumba to Toronto rumor is true, Yzerman is clearing space to help with $ or a deal |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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Still a useful bottom 6 guy as much as anyone wants to hate they didn't take Hughes. I'm pretty over Yzerman right now. - Feds91Stammer
I still want to throw up right now |
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: long beach, CA Joined: 01.29.2014
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Wow.. what the hell happened to this guy? |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Wow.. what the hell happened to this guy? - dozerD10
Yzerman? IDK he's on the hot seat as far as I'm concerned. |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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Wow.. what the hell happened to this guy? - dozerD10
I am trying to find out what is going on. Toronto has multiple deals cooking but no space. LTIR for Muzzin but still way over (3 million after Muzzin hits IR) but I have to think Dumba will get around 5 |
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todd3066
Detroit Red Wings |
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Joined: 08.05.2020
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It looks like Ottawa isn't interested, nor is anyone else, in trading for Zadina. The effort is there, but not the talent. He's also been prone to injury. I think it's become a matter of addition by subtraction at this point. I disagree that Veleno will soon follow. Yzerman would not have tendered him if that were the case. Veleno is a premium skater. I think he could play a long term role as a strong 4th line center if he accepts such. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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It looks like Ottawa isn't interested, nor is anyone else, in trading for Zadina. The effort is there, but not the talent. He's also been prone to injury. I think it's become a matter of addition by subtraction at this point. I disagree that Veleno will soon follow. Yzerman would not have tendered him if that were the case. Veleno is a premium skater. I think he could play a long term role as a strong 4th line center if he accepts such. - todd3066
imo Zadina is a better skater and forechecker than Veleno. Don't see why you would keep one over the other. |
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todd3066
Detroit Red Wings |
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Joined: 08.05.2020
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For one, Veleno plays center. He's also faster, stronger and more durable than Zadina. The only thing Zadina does better is shoot, but that hasn't translated to goals, obviously. I'm firmly with Yzerman on this one. |
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I am trying to find out what is going on. Toronto has multiple deals cooking but no space. LTIR for Muzzin but still way over (3 million after Muzzin hits IR) but I have to think Dumba will get around 5 - Jeremy Laura
Nylander, Brodie to Calgary for Hanifin, 3rd 2025 and futures. Just my opinion. So if it happens, you heard it here first. Robertson could be involved too.
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I agree with feds91 What the hell is going on. When Yzerman first came over I was so excited and believed we were on the road back. Now not so sure, all I can say if we do not make the playoffs this year or at least playing for a playoff spot in the last week big changes need to be made at the top. Toronto has signed Bertuzzi and now Domi I hate Toronto but they have had a great offseason. |
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I am trying to find out what is going on. Toronto has multiple deals cooking but no space. LTIR for Muzzin but still way over (3 million after Muzzin hits IR) but I have to think Dumba will get around 5 - Jeremy Laura
Nylander leaving? The Leaf’s new GM is doing what Dubas was afraid to do. I’m still hoping against DeBrincat and Karlsson for the Red Wings. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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For one, Veleno plays center. He's also faster, stronger and more durable than Zadina. The only thing Zadina does better is shoot, but that hasn't translated to goals, obviously. I'm firmly with Yzerman on this one. - todd3066
I'm fine with moving on from both but not when the roster isn't clearly being upgraded or when you lose a guy for nothing. Pat Maroon who can barely skate and is a fake tough guy even got a 7th rounder. |
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I'm fine with moving on from both but not when the roster isn't clearly being upgraded or when you lose a guy for nothing. Pat Maroon who can barely skate and is a fake tough guy even got a 7th rounder. - Feds91Stammer
I suspect he tried, and the money may have been an issue. I suspect Anaheim or Chicago taking Zadina. One thing has changes, more right hand shots. That was a big need. |
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Zadina has only proven he was overhyped...see ya, and again.... convincing players to come to Detroit is probably no easy task..... not happy with free agent signings but again, today's players dont have the same care about original 6 ... location..... Yzerman is probably finding it difficult to lure quality into this mix... not to mention the fact most wings fans want nothing to do with star quality players who may have interest in signing with Detroit.... Debrincat or Karlsson.... hes not in an enviable position |
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todd3066
Detroit Red Wings |
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I'm fine with moving on from both but not when the roster isn't clearly being upgraded or when you lose a guy for nothing. Pat Maroon who can barely skate and is a fake tough guy even got a 7th rounder. - Feds91Stammer
Sure, but Maroon is at near league minimum with a one year commitment. Tampa retained 200k in the deal. If anything, I fault Yzerman for extending Zadina in the first place. I believe Zadina's future points to the European pro leagues. He's proven to be quite useless in the NHL. |
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TheSeer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Mankato, MN Joined: 07.12.2021
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Yzerman interview right now. Says Zadina and his agent asked for a trade change of scenery. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Ramsussen and Zadina have identical career 82 game averages for offensive production 12g and 17a. |
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Ramsussen and Zadina have identical career 82 game averages for offensive production 12g and 17a. - Feds91Stammer
Center vs wing? I would keep Rasmussen over Zadina.
In my eyes this is a heavier and more skilled team over last year. I’m excited about next season. |
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todd3066
Detroit Red Wings |
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Ramsussen and Zadina have identical career 82 game averages for offensive production 12g and 17a. - Feds91Stammer
The two are trending in very different directions. |
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TheSeer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Mankato, MN Joined: 07.12.2021
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The two are trending in very different directions. - todd3066
I do agree with this as well. |
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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: MI Joined: 01.26.2016
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The two are trending in very different directions. - todd3066
Just heard from a friend Zadina asked to be released (per an Yzerman quote) |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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The two are trending in very different directions. - todd3066
Agreed. One is going to a team with an upward trajectory and the other is staying in Detroit. |
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