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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 7 @ 8:12 AM ET
We won’t have to worry, because I honestly don’t thing Michkov will ever be able to play for the Flyers.
- jd250



You are really going to die on this hill aren't you?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:13 AM ET
Frost for a smaller player, is quite competitive in puck battles.
- MJL


Throws his body around a lot and blocks quite a few shots too.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 7 @ 8:14 AM ET
no one wants to mention that risto played better the second half of the season?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 7 @ 8:15 AM ET
His groundwork is getting even weaker. Yesterday he had Yamamoto to Pittsburgh as an E3 but took it down after the comments reminded him that he already signed with Seattle.
- Sinisalo4vr


I fail to see why he even bothers to drum up these rumors. No one comes here for rumors. The place is s collection of blogs, which are used as a launching pad for chit-chat. Why pretend otherwise?
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:16 AM ET
You are really going to die on this hill aren't you?

- MBFlyerfan


Must have the Contra code with the number of hills he's died on.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:43 AM ET
I fail to see why he even bothers to drum up these rumors. No one comes here for rumors. The place is s collection of blogs, which are used as a launching pad for chit-chat. Why pretend otherwise?
- PT21

Bill and occasional posters comments are the only reasons to come to this website.

Anyways, how do folks feel about Mete?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:43 AM ET
He can play both spots but he has a higher upside at wing in my opinion. The Flyers should not be putting team need ahead of what is best for a young player individually.
- MJL


You said the flyers should not think of the team first and instead think of player first....hmmmmm thats a different outlook . Cates is 24, its not like he is a 19yr old rookie.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 7 @ 8:48 AM ET
Is today ADA to Carolina day?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 8:48 AM ET
Every statement you make on Frost is irrational and uninformed. By the way, an NHL season is 82 games. Half a season would be 41 games. He led the team in scoring the final 56 games. If player you like had done that, your bias of it was a weaker team wouldn't be there. Frost for a smaller player, is quite competitive in puck battles.
- MJL
I have nothing personal against Frost and I would want nothing more than for him to succeed, but I'm very skeptical. He played against a bunch of teams that didn't bring their A game against the Flyers. You keep saying that he does well in puck battles and I have yet to see that. I think he would get mauled by the more physical teams in games that really count. Hope I'm wrong.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:49 AM ET
Is today ADA to Carolina day?
- Bayareaflyer


If it's still on, it's the 9th I believe.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 8:49 AM ET
Throws his body around a lot and blocks quite a few shots too.
- Tomahawk
Throws his body around, but does he come away with the puck?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:53 AM ET
I have nothing personal against Frost and I would want nothing more than for him to succeed, but I'm very skeptical. He played against a bunch of teams that didn't bring their A game against the Flyers. You keep saying that he does well in puck battles and I have yet to see that. I think he would get mauled by the more physical teams in games that really count. Hope I'm wrong.
- Phillywhiteout


Do you have any factual information to support that a bunch of teams didn't bring their A game against the Flyers? Do you realize how silly of a argument that is?
I know that you've failed to see that. I've read your posts. Doesn't change the reality.

What do you think of Noah Cates?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:53 AM ET
Throws his body around, but does he come away with the puck?
- Phillywhiteout


You tell us.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 8:55 AM ET
Do you have any factual information to support that a bunch of teams didn't bring their A game against the Flyers? Do you realize how silly of a argument that is?
I know that you've failed to see that. I've read your posts. Doesn't change the reality.

- MJL
This debate is going to end up the same way it always does. Time will tell which one of us is correct in our evaluation of Frost. He's 24 now, so it's time to put up or shut up for him. I'll be very surprised if he ends up being an everyday 2nd line center on a competitive team.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 8:55 AM ET
You tell us.
- MJL
More often than not....NO!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:58 AM ET
This debate is going to end up the same way it always does. Time will tell which one of us is correct in our evaluation of Frost. He's 24 now, so it's time to put up or shut up for him. I'll be very surprised if he ends up being an everyday 2nd line center on a competitive team.
- Phillywhiteout


He has already put up.

From all of our discussions to this point on Frost. Who has been right and who has been wrong?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 8:59 AM ET
More often than not....NO!
- Phillywhiteout



What do you think of Noah Cates?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 9:02 AM ET
He has already put up.

From all of our discussions to this point on Frost. Who has been right and who has been wrong?

- MJL
Neither has been right thus far. Actually, I have been right more often if you look at his career as a whole cause he has played way more soft games than competitive games thus far in his career. Being the leading scorer for 56 games on a bad team does not establish anything yet. Thanks!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 9:04 AM ET
What do you think of Noah Cates?
- MJL
I like his game as a 3rd or 4th line player. He would fit into a spot on a good team and play an important role as a defensive center/winger that can also put up some points.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
Neither has been right thus far. Actually, I have been right more often if you look at his career as a whole cause he has played way more soft games than competitive games thus far in his career. Being the leading scorer for 56 games on a bad team does not establish anything yet. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout


You think you've been right but your opinion on Frost is not based on reality.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 9:08 AM ET
You think you've been right but your opinion on Frost is not based on reality.
- MJL
My opinion on Frost is not based on YOUR reality...fixed!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:08 AM ET
I like his game as a 3rd or 4th line player. He would fit into a spot on a good team and play an important role as a defensive center/winger that can also put up some points.
- Phillywhiteout


How can you possibly know that? Did Cates play his games against a different opponent than Frost did? You dismissed Frost's success as a player due to playing teams that didn't play their A game and he couldn't establish anything playing on a bad team.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 7 @ 9:14 AM ET
How will the RFA's playout?

York - 3 x $3.33M
Frost - 3 x $2.33M
Cates - 2 x 1.8M
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 9:15 AM ET
How will the RFA's playout?

York - 3 x $3.33M
Frost - 3 x $2.33M
Cates - 2 x 1.8M

- Bayareaflyer


I think all of your numbers are low.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 7 @ 9:17 AM ET
How can you possibly know that? Did Cates play his games against a different opponent than Frost did? You dismissed Frost's success as a player due to playing teams that didn't play their A game and he couldn't establish anything playing on a bad team.
- MJL
I don't know that. You asked me what I thought of Cates. That's what I think. He acquitted himself well all year and I think he will succeed in that role at the NHL level. I could be wrong on both of them, but then again I could be right on both of them.
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