It’s possible but they would need some of their players to perform well this year and then be willing to part ways at the trade deadline. That’s a lot of picks though. If they got that many then two pretty good players are being moved.
- peesinwind

kind of what made me post this, seems they could have to many assess and not enough seats. I actually see Farabee going, I think he will be better, but if not a lot better, I think they move him.

Some of it may be sheer jealousy. Some of the same things were said of the late Alexei Cherpanov but no less than Jaromir Jagr said that Alexei was one of the sweetest kids he ever met.

I kind of suspect, but I don't know, that there was probably at least some exaggeration with Michkov. The more credible stuff from scouts relates to him only playing the defensive side of the puck when the mood struck him and that he was prone to frustration when faced with tight checking. Those things aren't unusual with offensive prodigies.
- bmeltzer

I heard the same. But I read that when he got to Sochi that changed. Sochi wasn’t a good team but they had systems and structure in place and he bought in on the defensive side.

When Kaprizov came over he had matured defensively. He was more like a young Swedish player on his defensive side. I’m sure the Flyers are hoping for some of the same.

4th rd pick. Please explain why he has more value staying here?

Can they not go out and get the same capable vet to replace him? You crack me up cliff. You want them to acquire assets yet hold onto dime a dozen bottom pair guys like seeler. Since this is a rebuilding team Wouldn't he be "blocking" a young guy?
- hello it's me 2050

he doesn't. he is easily replaceable. the only argument people had before was cost controlled for one additional year. well now free agency started and plenty of vets are signing for cheap. would've even considered offering haag a contract again. but it was documented that fletcher had a high asking price for a 7th d man having a career year. poor asset management.

kind of what made me post this, seems they could have to many assess and not enough seats. I actually see Farabee going, I think he will be better, but if not a lot better, I think they move him.
- wcorvette

Well, I’m sure you’re right in the fact that they will be sellers at the deadline. Hope they can have some high market value guys that they can get rid of and have some young talent developing in order to push those contracts out. Fingers crossed

incorrect. he is still here bc the gm at the time overvalued him and had a high asking price for what he is.
- Peter Richards

You have no information to support that and are ignoring the plainly obvious. Seeler had little value at the trade deadline. If he had value and Fletcher would've received a serious offer. He would've traded him.

When they drafted him I felt he was a good 3rd round pick. Strong big kid that got lots of good minutes for a good USA team. Said to have more upside than just a 4th line grinder. At this point I’m feeling like he will make the NHL. Just me feeling positive about his tools.
- peesinwind

Yeah, I agree. He was a good 3rd round pick. His interview vibe for me is no matter what position they put him in he will roll with it. He seems to recognize that he has to work for everything he gets and he’s embracing it.

You have no information to support that and are ignoring the plainly obvious. Seeler had little value at the trade deadline. If he had value and Briere would've received a serious offer. He would've traded him.
- MJL

well, briere wasn't the gm. the rest was reported on multiple times and that there was interest from multiple teams. chuck said he was only looking for offers he could not refuse.

he doesn't. he is easily replaceable. the only argument people had before was cost controlled for one additional year. well now free agency started and plenty of vets are signing for cheap. would've even considered offering haag a contract again. but it was documented that fletcher had a high asking price for a 7th d man having a career year. poor asset management.
- Peter Richards

Being easily replaceable only factors in if a solid offer was made, it wasn't. Seeler is not the kind of player that would've fetched a significant offer. He's the kind of player that at best you might get a 6th round pick or a warm body low level prospect in return. More value in keeping him as a 6/7 who is reliable, sticks up for teammates and if need be. Can be scratched and put in the press box.

well, briere wasn't the gm. the rest was reported on multiple times and that there was interest from multiple teams. chuck said he was only looking for offers he could not refuse.
- Peter Richards

Provide a link from a credible source that says that Fletcher turned down a quality offer for Seeler?

this article and the ranking makes me feel like we have something. The Flyers system has depth, could have some surprises and some top end talent now. They need 4 1st next season, find 2 2nd's. Use a 1st to move up and get 3 real good prospects.
- wcorvette

This guy right here 100% (frank)ing gets it. Well done sir.
No one can convince me that using hart/tk/laughts in whatever deal(s) doesn’t get at least 2 first in next years draft to go along with the 2 they already have.

The timeline has been set with superstar michkov coming in a few years. Surround him him as much talent as possible especially drafting next year. The only players that hold relevance to this timeline on current roster are players like bee York tip etc. all the others are temporary placeholders

kind of what made me post this, seems they could have to many assess and not enough seats. I actually see Farabee going, I think he will be better, but if not a lot better, I think they move him.
- wcorvette

Cool with that. No one is safe or shouldn’t be anyways

Being easily replaceable only factors in if a solid offer was made, it wasn't. Seeler is not the kind of player that would've fetched a significant offer. He's the kind of player that at best you might get a 6th round pick or a warm body low level prospect in return. More value in keeping him as a 6/7 who is reliable, sticks up for teammates and if need be. Can be scratched and put in the press box.
- MJL

Provide a link from a credible source that shows what fletcher was offered? Can you show us that a solid offer was never made? What is a solid offer for a guy you said is a 6'7th dman.

He could have got a 4th as that was the going rate. It was reported by many that teams had interest in him. He will never be a 7th on this team as long as torts is the coach.

I am paraphrasing Chuck said he will not trade him unless someone overpays.

You are wrong Cliff and you will never admit as such.

Provide a link from a credible source that says that Fletcher turned down a quality offer for Seeler?
- MJL

who said there was an official offer?

who said there was an official offer?
- Peter Richards

LMAO. You claimed it was asset mismanagement.

Provide a link from a credible source that shows what fletcher was offered? Can you show us that a solid offer was never made? What is a solid offer for a guy you said is a 6'7th dman.

He could have got a 4th as that was the going rate. It was reported by many that teams had interest in him. He will never be a 7th on this team as long as torts is the coach.

I am paraphrasing Chuck said he will not trade him unless someone overpays.

You are wrong Cliff and you will never admit as such.
- hello it's me 2050

he just wants to argue. we are all aware Chuck said weeks before the TDL teams were calling about seeler. and that to get him they would have to overpay. (i think he was asking for a 2nd round pick at the time.)

and anyone else we would've signed for cheap to fill that role could've been scratched as well. or a kid getting paying time. but no, this 7th d man is too improtant. laughable in a rebuild.

Also don't need him to stand up for teammates. Thats ND's only job.

LMAO. You claimed it was asset mismanagement.
- MJL

for setting a high pricetag on a 7th d man. yes it was. if you can get any asset for him he should've been gone. not overvaluing a player bc chuck liked him.

Not the greatest thing to hear but he’s still a kid. Hopefully it’s exaggerated but one was a text from a teammate saying he doesn’t listen.
- ClaudeFather

And so it begins. Shades of Bryzgalov or Cechmanek calling out the team mid game in the middle of the ice

HP ranks the Flyers' pipeline 3rd best in the league:


- Tomahawk

I really don’t like our center depth because it doesn’t exist.

Would his forechecking ability outweigh his loss in defensive impact going to wing? I don’t think so
- ClaudeFather

Cates was a really good forchecking winger. I’d love to see him go back to wing.

he just wants to argue. we are all aware Chuck said weeks before the TDL teams were calling about seeler. and that to get him they would have to overpay. (i think he was asking for a 2nd round pick at the time.)

and anyone else we would've signed for cheap to fill that role could've been scratched as well. or a kid getting paying time. but no, this 7th d man is too improtant. laughable in a rebuild.

Also don't need him to stand up for teammates. Thats ND's only job.

- Peter Richards

Provide a link to Fletcher making that statement and asking for a 2nd round pick. Not even Fletcher is that incompetent to believe that Seeler has the value of a 2nd round pick.

for setting a high pricetag on a 7th d man. yes it was. if you can get any asset for him he should've been gone. not overvaluing a player bc chuck liked him.
- Peter Richards

There is no factual information available that I'm aware that shows that Fletcher set a high price tag for Seeler.

he just wants to argue. we are all aware Chuck said weeks before the TDL teams were calling about seeler. and that to get him they would have to overpay. (i think he was asking for a 2nd round pick at the time.)

and anyone else we would've signed for cheap to fill that role could've been scratched as well. or a kid getting paying time. but no, this 7th d man is too improtant. laughable in a rebuild.

Also don't need him to stand up for teammates. Thats ND's only job.

- Peter Richards

also wasn't Cliff passing and moaning about Seeler how he "blocked" york in the beginning of the year?

There is no factual information available that I'm aware that shows that Fletcher set a high price tag for Seeler.
- MJL

well just because you are not aware of it doesn't mean it is not true cliff.

go search google or other flyer sites. It is out there. Come up for little air

LMAO. You claimed it was asset mismanagement.
- MJL

also never claimed there was a trade turned down. Here is bill reporting on it.


https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=120827

he says the flyers were already prepared to turn down offers unless there is an overpayment. hence asset mismanagement. and as you agreed he is easily replaceable.

Provide a link to Fletcher making that statement and asking for a 2nd round pick. Not even Fletcher is that incompetent to believe that Seeler has the value of a 2nd round pick.
- MJL

provide a link, what turd and fraud you really are. No wonder you are divorced.