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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
Okay! LOL. What I actually said it that if they would get a good offer, then by all means move him. Which I never thought would happen. The most likely offer for a 6/7 average tweener defenseman would be something like a 6th round pick, future considerations or a middling low level prospect. If so, then there is more value in keeping him around as he is the kind of player you want on your roster as a rebuilding team. The extra year on his deal at the time also limited the market.
- MJL

not true as the market was set

https://www.davyjoneslock...-defenseman-jaycob-megna/
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
"You'll never win Cups with guys like McDavid, Ovechkin, Kane or MacKinnon"
- John Tortorella

- Feanor


Lol Torts was on TV last year saying McDavid would win a Cup if he'd only change his game lol. Like yeah... starting goalie Mike Smith, 1D Darnell Nurse, but you're gonna put the team's failures on the guy who is putting up 2 pts per game in the POs? He and Drai were dragging that turd burger into the WCF.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jul 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
zadina clears. anyone interested, now that his contract can be lower?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 6 @ 3:45 PM ET
McD, OV, Pat Kane, Kucherov, EK, Panarin, MacKinnon, Pasta, Malkin.... some guys you can just shrug off that they don't play defense because their other contributions are just so overwhelmingly strong.
- Tomahawk


Isnt the best defense a good offense?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
Lol Torts was on TV last year saying McDavid would win a Cup if he'd only change his game lol. Like yeah... starting goalie Mike Smith, 1D Darnell Nurse, but you're gonna put the team's failures on the guy who is putting up 2 pts per game in the POs? He and Drai were dragging that turd burger into the WCF.
- Tomahawk


It's extra funny because when he lucked into his one Cup he had the benefit of a little scoring machine who led the league with 94 points in the last dead puck season.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
zadina clears. anyone interested, now that his contract can be lower?
- Peter Richards

Someone will give him more than the Flyers will or should.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 3:53 PM ET
Someone will give him more than the Flyers will or should.
- Sinisalo4vr


Dude's going home to Czech or something. His NHL career is probably over.
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: hockeybuzz superfan, QC
Joined: 01.10.2015

Jul 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
if the Flames are truly interested in TK, maybe there's a bigger deal to be had involving Sanheim. Would likely be a team he'd waive for.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 4:05 PM ET
zadina clears. anyone interested, now that his contract can be lower?
- Peter Richards



I think so. Some teams need forwards. The Habs like reclamation projects.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
zadina clears. anyone interested, now that his contract can be lower?
- Peter Richards

If TK or another vet is traded, I’d be interested as a buy low and sell at the deadline or keep investment.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
"You'll never win Cups with guys like McDavid, Ovechkin, Kane or MacKinnon"
- John Tortorella

- Feanor



He didn't really say that did he? And if he did it must have been prior to 2010.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 4:22 PM ET
and farabee.

center will be fun to watch what happens as well. Coots signed for a long time. Cutter may take the 2c spot from frost. if cates is you shut down 3c, maybe they trade frost.

- Peter Richards
I think Cutter has a better chance of being a 2nd line center in the NHL than Frost. I just don't see Frost as a #2 center at the NHL level. Sorry folks!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:37 PM ET
He didn't really say that did he? And if he did it must have been prior to 2010.
- MBFlyerfan



John Tortorella: “Yeah and he complained about it a little bit, that he wasn’t getting the calls. Quite honestly, just shut up. Don’t talk about it.
“I do think he has to change his game a bit. Not turn into a checker, obviously. He’s talked about culture, he’s talked about standards, he’s talked about winning. You’re not just going to fill the net during the playoffs and outscore teams. You have to play on the other side of the puck. You have to have that business-type attitude of, ‘Nothing’s going to bother me, no matter how you’re going to check me.’
“Don’t talk about it, just play hard, play through it, but the other side of the puck is that important too come playoff time.”
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:37 PM ET
He didn't really say that did he? And if he did it must have been prior to 2010.
- MBFlyerfan


It would be weird if he knew about Connor McDavid before 2010.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
I think Cutter has a better chance of being a 2nd line center in the NHL than Frost. I just don't see Frost as a #2 center at the NHL level. Sorry folks!
- Phillywhiteout


You did see it happen. Last season.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:47 PM ET
I think Cutter has a better chance of being a 2nd line center in the NHL than Frost. I just don't see Frost as a #2 center at the NHL level. Sorry folks!
- Phillywhiteout


If Cutter can't score goals in bunches at the NHL level he's gonna end up as a bottom-six winger.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:49 PM ET
Danny Heatley joining the Flyers organization as a scout.


Sorry if Leight

- MBFlyerfan

I didn’t even know he was still alive.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 6 @ 4:51 PM ET
Danny Heatley joining the Flyers organization as a scout.


Sorry if Leight

- MBFlyerfan


No history with the Flyers is there? People can't female dog and moan that the organization is a walking car crash now, can they?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
You did see it happen. Last season.
- Feanor


Certainly played like one from Dec onwards.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
any offer is a good offer for a die a dozen dman on a rebuilding team. Is it not about acquiring as many assets as possible cliff?

Provide a link, you are a fraud.

- hello it's me 2050

Did I miss the cat fight or is it still on?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 6 @ 4:58 PM ET
black hand will be back shortly
- hello it's me 2050


That's nice. What about PelleLindbergh and Scoob?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:00 PM ET
No history with the Flyers is there? People can't female dog and moan that the organization is a walking car crash now, can they?
- PT21


Played with Danny in Switzerland, HC Bern, 04-05 lockout.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 5:03 PM ET
I think Cutter has a better chance of being a 2nd line center in the NHL than Frost. I just don't see Frost as a #2 center at the NHL level. Sorry folks!
- Phillywhiteout

What is this all based on exactly? All the NHL success Cutter Gauthier has already had in the NHL?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 6 @ 5:07 PM ET
Played with Danny in Switzerland, HC Bern, 04-05 lockout.
- Tomahawk


He and Danny have a history. He made Danny history.

Sorry. I will show myself out now.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jul 6 @ 5:13 PM ET
Lol Torts was on TV last year saying McDavid would win a Cup if he'd only change his game lol. Like yeah... starting goalie Mike Smith, 1D Darnell Nurse, but you're gonna put the team's failures on the guy who is putting up 2 pts per game in the POs? He and Drai were dragging that turd burger into the WCF.
- Tomahawk


That’s what did it for Steve Yzerman as a player. He put up a ton of points early in his career and Detroit had little success. He evolved and became a great 2-way player, eventually winning the Selke. His evolution was a big reason behind Detroits success starting in the 90’s.

It’s not all on McDavid but a small evolution to his game might make a world of difference. In a cap era with how much he costs, it’s not unreasonable to suggest he make small adjustments.
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