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Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jul 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
No history with the Flyers is there? People can't female dog and moan that the organization is a walking car crash now, can they?
- PT21


I mean, Heatley did crash a car…
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 5:24 PM ET
You did see it happen. Last season.
- Feanor
No I didn't! The Flyers had NO centers this past season. He was there by default. I don't see him as a 2nd line center on a competitive team. Guess I should have chosen my words more carefully.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 6 @ 5:26 PM ET
That’s what did it for Steve Yzerman as a player. He put up a ton of points early in his career and Detroit had little success. He evolved and became a great 2-way player, eventually winning the Selke. His evolution was a big reason behind Detroits success starting in the 90’s.

It’s not all on McDavid but a small evolution to his game might make a world of difference. In a cap era with how much he costs, it’s not unreasonable to suggest he make small adjustments.

- Schmojo


If you gave McDavid the equivalent of the Russian 5, Scottie Bowman, Lidstrom and Brendan Shanahan, he'd win the Cup without changing a damned thing.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
Macewen!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 5:27 PM ET
What is this all based on exactly? All the NHL success Cutter Gauthier has already had in the NHL?
- SuperSchennBros
I think he's built more to be a #2 center in the NHL. Frost simply isn't physical enough to be a #2 center at the NHL level IMO. Did you happen to watch the playoffs? He'd be roadkill come playoff time.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 5:28 PM ET
black hand will be back shortly
- hello it's me 2050
Oh God no. Not that turd! Place is much better without him cluttering the place up with his constant childish insults that he'd never say to someone's face. What a d!ck!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 6 @ 5:39 PM ET
I think EK rehearing the Konecny rumors from a month ago. I think he has sleep deprivation.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 6 @ 5:44 PM ET
I think he's built more to be a #2 center in the NHL. Frost simply isn't physical enough to be a #2 center at the NHL level IMO. Did you happen to watch the playoffs? He'd be roadkill come playoff time.
- Phillywhiteout


You're right. I mean Danny Briere simply couldn't play in the NHL, especially in the playoffs. Nor could Martin St. Louis or Saku Koivu. Just too darn small and finesse oriented.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 6 @ 5:49 PM ET
I think rehearing the Konecny rumors from a month ago. I think he has sleep deprivation.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

funny thing about the TK and Laughton stuff is teams are interested. Not that they are shopping them.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:51 PM ET
I think he's built more to be a #2 center in the NHL. Frost simply isn't physical enough to be a #2 center at the NHL level IMO. Did you happen to watch the playoffs? He'd be roadkill come playoff time.
- Phillywhiteout

He’s still a kid growing into his body. I remember at 18 I was 6’3 185lbs….I couldn’t add weight to save my life, the gym, whatever added a pound or two….that changed as I became a man…now I would have to lose a limb in a car accident to sniff 220. Give him time.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 5:55 PM ET
funny thing about the TK and Laughton stuff is teams are interested. Not that they are shopping them.
- hello it's me 2050



Now that free agency is a week in or so, teams are probably circling back. I think there’s a few guys on the block that are creating a log jam..ie Debrincat and Karlsson. Those two guys are big financial commitments…Both Konecny and Laughton are bargains compared to those two.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 5:58 PM ET
He’s still a kid growing into his body. I remember at 18 I was 6’3 185lbs….I couldn’t add weight to save my life, the gym, whatever added a pound or two….that changed as I became a man…now I would have to lose a limb in a car accident to sniff 220. Give him time.
- landros 2
Except that he's 24 now. He's been given time. It's time for him to prove his backers right. I am skeptical.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 6 @ 5:59 PM ET
Except that he's 23 now. He's been given time. It's time for him to prove his backers right. I am skeptical.
- Phillywhiteout

24 actually
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
You're right. I mean Danny Briere simply couldn't play in the NHL, especially in the playoffs. Nor could Martin St. Louis or Saku Koivu. Just too darn small and finesse oriented.
- bmeltzer
I don't really think it's fair to compare Frost to those guys. They were slick/smart players and tougher than Frost appears to be. Just my take. I think when this team improves in a few years (hopefully) he will not be the #2 center on this team. I truly hope I'm wrong, but I can only call em like I see em.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
24 actually
- hello it's me 2050
Oops...fixed!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 6:01 PM ET
It would be weird if he knew about Connor McDavid before 2010.
- Feanor



Yeah, I picked that date because Kane had already won a cup by then.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:22 PM ET
I think he's built more to be a #2 center in the NHL. Frost simply isn't physical enough to be a #2 center at the NHL level IMO. Did you happen to watch the playoffs? He'd be roadkill come playoff time.
- Phillywhiteout

The Danny Briere example aside as being one of the best playoff performers we’ve seen in recent years but how much of Gauthier have you seen at center? Gauthier played wing at the World’s and World juniors if I remember properly.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
funny thing about the TK and Laughton stuff is teams are interested. Not that they are shopping them.
- hello it's me 2050


Ek has Calgary and Winnipeg interested in Konecny, yet Seravalli and others are saying Sanheim with the same teams.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 6:26 PM ET
Ek has Calgary and Winnipeg interested in Konecny, yet Seravalli and others are saying Sanheim with the same teams.
- Glak18

It’s easy to confuse when they both have the name Travis. Happens all the time.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
Ek has Calgary and Winnipeg interested in Konecny, yet Seravalli and others are saying Sanheim with the same teams.
- Glak18

I haven’t seen anything from Seravalli on Sanheim since his NTC clause went into effect.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 6 @ 6:35 PM ET
I haven’t seen anything from Seravalli on Sanheim since his NTC clause went into effect.
- Sinisalo4vr


I heard him on Nasty Knuckles podcast talk about it. I have also seen rumors of Sanheim pop up the last couple days, rumors.

Just happens to be the same exact teams Ek said had interest in Konecny....
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
I haven’t seen anything from Seravalli on Sanheim since his NTC clause went into effect.
- Sinisalo4vr

What’s the deal with NTC of a player is dealt? I vaguely recall it is voided after the first trade, but can’t remember if that’s true or if it depends on the contract. Maybe I am dreaming it all up.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 6:42 PM ET
It’s easy to confuse when they both have the name Travis. Happens all the time.
- SuperSchennBros


I know. I always get Travis Scott confused with Travis Kelce.


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 6:50 PM ET
I know. I always get Travis Scott confused with Travis Kelce.
- Minnyhock


I wish I was a Kelce. Those guys seem like they just have a great time. Is it too late to be adopted?
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
I heard him on Nasty Knuckles podcast talk about it. I have also seen rumors of Sanheim pop up the last couple days, rumors.

Just happens to be the same exact teams Ek said had interest in Konecny....

- Glak18

His groundwork is getting even weaker. Yesterday he had Yamamoto to Pittsburgh as an E3 but took it down after the comments reminded him that he already signed with Seattle.
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