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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 6 @ 7:57 PM ET
Except that he's 24 now. He's been given time. It's time for him to prove his backers right. I am skeptical.
- Phillywhiteout


Oh my bad…I thought you were talking Gauthier.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 8:03 PM ET
We have a guy in camp named “Bump”? So Brink, Bonk and Bump?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Jul 6 @ 8:04 PM ET
And maybe one day the Flyers may do the same thing. After watching him grow as the season went on I think he’s just scratching the surface.
- landros 2

I agree. He had talk, albeit minor talk, of selke level defense. That's impressive for someone who has played wing most of his career. He even limited McDavids point total in one of the games that we played against Edmonton. That's not easy to do
I may be wrong but I thought Cates even mentioned that he liked the C position.
Let's see how he does this upcoming season.
Did Cates play LW or RW before his transition to C?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jul 6 @ 8:29 PM ET
His groundwork is getting even weaker. Yesterday he had Yamamoto to Pittsburgh as an E3 but took it down after the comments reminded him that he already signed with Seattle.
- Sinisalo4vr


Whoops

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 8:41 PM ET
Im watching the NHL channel loop. Why does it seem like every players highlight reel features the Flyers in some way shape or form.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 6 @ 9:20 PM ET
We have a guy in camp named “Bump”? So Brink, Bonk and Bump?
- SuperSchennBros


Brink will have to bump up his game if he wants to bonk A-listers.

Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jul 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
Im watching the NHL channel loop. Why does it seem like every players highlight reel features the Flyers in some way shape or form.

- MBFlyerfan

It’s either a conspiracy or the Flyers’ aptitude for making opponents look great spans eons.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 6 @ 9:32 PM ET
Wow Phillies roadwarriors
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM ET
Wow Phillies roadwarriors
- THE EVIL WITHIN


29-7 since bringing back dancing on my own
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 6 @ 10:21 PM ET
Except that he's 24 now. He's been given time. It's time for him to prove his backers right. I am skeptical.
- Phillywhiteout


He led the team in scoring over the final 54 games of last season. Almost entirely on the strength of even strength points. Not a month, not two months. Not even half half the season. Basically from the time he was moved up in the lineup and put in position to succeed.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 6 @ 10:36 PM ET
He led the team in scoring over the final 54 games of last season. Almost entirely on the strength of even strength points. Not a month, not two months. Not even half half the season. Basically from the time he was moved up in the lineup and put in position to succeed.
- bmeltzer


Torts is going to absolutely hate Michkov, I just know it.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 6 @ 11:07 PM ET
Torts is going to absolutely hate Michkov, I just know it.
- MBFlyerfan

Torts will have to survive three more seasons here.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 11:27 PM ET
He led the team in scoring over the final 54 games of last season. Almost entirely on the strength of even strength points. Not a month, not two months. Not even half half the season. Basically from the time he was moved up in the lineup and put in position to succeed.
- bmeltzer
He was on a very weak team. Someone had to be the leading scorer the second half of the season. He looked good, but is it sustainable. I think for this team to be a true contender they are going to need a higher quality second line center than Frost. I'm not sold yet. I was watching the playoffs and wondering how Frost would make out in some of those battle royals. I hope he hits the gym this off season cause I'd like to see him win more puck battles.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jul 6 @ 11:33 PM ET
Torts will have to survive three more seasons here.
- SuperSchennBros
Torts will be the GM in 3 years if he isn't already and MJL would never be heard from again cause his head would explode.
wbroudy
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:01 AM ET
Well at least one prospect thought it was worth paying his own way :

8) Power forward prospect Devin Kaplan, who is coming off a strong freshman season at Boston University and will be at the USA Hockey World Junior Championships Showcase later this month, paid his own way to be eligible to attend the Flyers Development Camp again this year (as required by NCAA rules for a player tor attend a second Dev Camp with the same team).

- Flyers_01


Kaplan lives in NJ. Also, Mcglaughlin from PA
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Jul 7 @ 1:08 AM ET
Torts is going to absolutely hate Michkov, I just know it.
- MBFlyerfan


It doesn’t matter. Torts will be near the end of his contract when Michkov gets here. Jason Kidd clashed with Byron Scott. Scott fired. Demarcus Cousins clashed with Westphal. Westphal fired. Magic clashed with Westhead. Westhead fired. Torts is expendable. Michkov isn’t.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 6:58 AM ET
Ek has Calgary and Winnipeg interested in Konecny, yet Seravalli and others are saying Sanheim with the same teams.
- Glak18

If I’m Briere I’m telling every team that wants TK there price starts with taking Sanheim also.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 6:59 AM ET
Torts is going to absolutely hate Michkov, I just know it.
- MBFlyerfan

We won’t have to worry, because I honestly don’t thing Michkov will ever be able to play for the Flyers.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 7 @ 7:01 AM ET
He led the team in scoring over the final 54 games of last season. Almost entirely on the strength of even strength points. Not a month, not two months. Not even half half the season. Basically from the time he was moved up in the lineup and put in position to succeed.
- bmeltzer

You mean when Frost finally earned the right to move up in the line up. Frost had a very good second half of the season when the games didn’t mean anything. In my mind the jury is still out. He has the skill no doubt, Its the consistency IMO that is not there.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 7 @ 7:37 AM ET
If I’m Briere I’m telling every team that wants TK there price starts with taking Sanheim also.
- jd250

The worst way to utilize your one asset
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:48 AM ET
He was on a very weak team. Someone had to be the leading scorer the second half of the season. He looked good, but is it sustainable. I think for this team to be a true contender they are going to need a higher quality second line center than Frost. I'm not sold yet. I was watching the playoffs and wondering how Frost would make out in some of those battle royals. I hope he hits the gym this off season cause I'd like to see him win more puck battles.
- Phillywhiteout


Every statement you make on Frost is irrational and uninformed. By the way, an NHL season is 82 games. Half a season would be 41 games. He led the team in scoring the final 56 games. If player you like had done that, your bias of it was a weaker team wouldn't be there. Frost for a smaller player, is quite competitive in puck battles.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:54 AM ET
You mean when Frost finally earned the right to move up in the line up. Frost had a very good second half of the season when the games didn’t mean anything. In my mind the jury is still out. He has the skill no doubt, Its the consistency IMO that is not there.
- jd250


It's just one hot take and delusion after another from you. First you delusionally want to give Sanheim away. Then Michkov is never going to play for the Flyers. Now, Frost finally earned the right to move up. Rather than the obsolete coach refusing to use players correctly. How can anyone make the statement that the games didn't mean anything? Is there any thought behind that whatsoever? Did the 41 games matter to the opponent they were playing? Did the games matter to the players who were trying to establish themselves in the NHL or playing for a future contract?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 7 @ 8:07 AM ET
It's just one hot take and delusion after another from you. First you delusionally want to give Sanheim away. Then Michkov is never going to play for the Flyers. Now, Frost finally earned the right to move up. Rather than the obsolete coach refusing to use players correctly. How can anyone make the statement that the games didn't mean anything? Is there any thought behind that whatsoever? Did the 41 games matter to the opponent they were playing? Did the games matter to the players who were trying to establish themselves in the NHL or playing for a future contract?
- MJL

Do you think the opposing contending in playoff contention teams brought their A game when they played the flyers? How many backup goalies did they see? Does that factor in?

Also how many of Frost points were against bottom 6 teams? Do you think that is relevant in any way?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 8:11 AM ET
You mean when Frost finally earned the right to move up in the line up. Frost had a very good second half of the season when the games didn’t mean anything. In my mind the jury is still out. He has the skill no doubt, Its the consistency IMO that is not there.
- jd250


From Dec on he was the Flyers most consistent producer...

And the games might not have meant much to the Flyers but they certainly meant something to the opponents, and certainly meant something to Frost (and he played like it).
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jul 7 @ 8:11 AM ET
I mean, Heatley did crash a car…
- Schmojo


That was the background for my very labored jokes
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