He’s too little and will never be able to play big boy hockey.
- HawkintheD

I know of a place where little people can go to put on 20lbs of muscle. Maybe Bedard can put on 40?

I’d be fine if he didn’t go but the Dach thing also seemed like a freak accident.
- HawkintheD

I agree on it being a freak accident.....but I guess my counter point to that is what else does Bedard need to prove at that level? Dach was very much up/down and to my memory didn't have close to the past success that Bedard did at the WJC. I just don't see the need of sending the kid there, and i would be FLOORED if he were to go. Baring a major slow start and needing a boost of confidence...but that seems very unlikely to happen.

Kurashev 6’0” 190lbs 23y/o 191GP 62Pts 2018 120th overall pick

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I agree on it being a freak accident.....but I guess my counter point to that is what else does Bedard need to prove at that level? Dach was very much up/down and to my memory didn't have close to the past success that Bedard did at the WJC. I just don't see the need of sending the kid there, and i would be FLOORED if he were to go. Baring a major slow start and needing a boost of confidence...but that seems very unlikely to happen.
- SteveRain

Dach wasn’t ready. It was known when he was drafted he had holes in his game, most notably he had trouble finishing plays. Add to that he wasn’t physically ready as a player who needed to engage physically. And he wasn’t very mature as a person. When he made the team he was expected to contribute in what was a fast retool and he wasn’t close to being ready.

I agree on it being a freak accident.....but I guess my counter point to that is what else does Bedard need to prove at that level? Dach was very much up/down and to my memory didn't have close to the past success that Bedard did at the WJC. I just don't see the need of sending the kid there, and i would be FLOORED if he were to go. Baring a major slow start and needing a boost of confidence...but that seems very unlikely to happen.
- SteveRain

Yeah I doubt that as well (confidence boost) and don’t really disagree with anything you posted but I just know how it goes afa players wanting to rep for their countries at the WJC and other international tournaments.

Maybe the Hawks institute a new K Dach rule barring them from playing.

Dach wasn’t ready. It was when he was drafted he had holes in his game, most notably he had trouble finishing plays. Add to that he wasn’t physically ready as a player who needed to engage physically. And he wasn’t very mature as a person. When he made the team he was expected to contribute in what was a fast retool and he wasn’t close to being ready.
- paulr

100% wasnt' ready and he found some success in Montreal playing wing this year where it likely suits his slower speed, and larger frame. Bowman rushed that kid and damn near killed his career. Glad he got a fresh start and it wasn't anything personal but you could see the holes in his game here and the old regime wasn't helping him by any stretch including king of the clown cars....Jeremy Coliton.

Really can't wait for Stan to land somewhere and drag JC with him.

Yeah I doubt that as well (confidence boost) and don’t really disagree with anything you posted but I just know how it goes afa players wanting to rep for their countries at the WJC and other international tournaments.

Maybe the Hawks institute a new K Dach rule barring them from playing.
- HawkintheD

I get the country part of it, but I believe Toews his rookie year went and played in the worlds after the season ended. That likely could be the angle the hawks push for Bedard.

100% wasnt' ready and he found some success in Montreal playing wing this year where it likely suits his slower speed, and larger frame. Bowman rushed that kid and damn near killed his career. Glad he got a fresh start and it wasn't anything personal but you could see the holes in his game here and the old regime wasn't helping him by any stretch including king of the clown cars....Jeremy Coliton.

Really can't wait for Stan to land somewhere and drag JC with him.
- SteveRain

I know the narrative here from many (not saying you) was Stan would never land another NHL gig after the Hawks. As long as he had Bettman’s blessing after their meeting I don’t think that’s so far fetched. JC’s another story. Stan was fond of recycling ex-players…not sure that extends to ex-coaches.

I know the narrative here from many (not saying you) was Stan would never land another NHL gig after the Hawks. As long as he had Bettman’s blessing after their meeting I don’t think that’s so far fetched. JC’s another story. Stan was fond of recycling ex-players…not sure that extends to ex-coaches.
- HawkintheD

Stan will land another gig because his last name is "Bowman" See what happens in Buffalo or Pittsburgh or maybe even Montreal or Detroit where his old man has roots.

JC will go down as one of the all time disasters in my lifetime for coaching hires. That guy couldn't coach a kid's team let alone a NHL team. Just remarkable arrogance from Stan and that karma bit HARD.........

Stan will land another gig because his last name is "Bowman" See what happens in Buffalo or Pittsburgh or maybe even Montreal or Detroit where his old man has roots.

JC will go down as one of the all time disasters in my lifetime for coaching hires. That guy couldn't coach a kid's team let alone a NHL team. Just remarkable arrogance from Stan and that karma bit HARD.........
- SteveRain

We have no idea if Bowman was pushed to try to win another championship at all costs? We have no idea if he did or didn’t push for a rebuild but was overruled by ownership? KD is looking like Rock Star because he’s doing what is needed in rebuilding the team. How would he look if he didn’t have the blessing from ownership to rebuild?

Stan will land another gig because his last name is "Bowman" See what happens in Buffalo or Pittsburgh or maybe even Montreal or Detroit where his old man has roots.

JC will go down as one of the all time disasters in my lifetime for coaching hires. That guy couldn't coach a kid's team let alone a NHL team. Just remarkable arrogance from Stan and that karma bit HARD.........
- SteveRain

Definitely not going to defend Colliton, but I think any coach brought in after Q was going to be starting behind the 8 ball.

We have no idea if Bowman was pushed to try to win another championship at all costs? We have no idea if he did or didn’t push for a rebuild but was overruled by ownership? KD is looking like Rock Star because he’s doing what is needed in rebuilding the team. How would he look if he didn’t have the blessing from ownership to rebuild?
- paulr

I am agreement with you and others on ownership pushing hard to win....especially during the lawsuit/investigation.

My point on JC has nothing to do with that. He was just a god awful hockey coach, if we even call him that, and you can see the night and day difference between how this team performs under JC and even Derek King vs Richardson.

Definitely not going to defend Colliton, but I think any coach brought in after Q was going to be starting behind the 8 ball.
- LAHawk

For sure...but going from one extreme to another is the issue. Especially considering this was Stan's guy who he pushed so hard what a hidden gem he was at whatever crack pot mens league he was coaching over in Sweden.

Think we all knew the Q era was only going to end 1 way...with a crashing boom, so I won't sit here and say at the end he was at the top of his game either.....just always thought this hire also was a large dent in Stan's armor when being evaluated.

Korchinski was a third pairing defenseman against the best in the WJC, Allen and Del Mastro looked better. He may be able to skate at the NHL level but is he ready physically, skill wise and his maturity? This isn’t to suggest Korchinski is bad or that he won’t one day be in the NHL, but that he’s still very young and possibly not ready for the NHL. Let’s see him progress at his pace, if that means he makes the team out of camp great, but right now I think he’s behind a few other Hawk prospects.

I like Allen game a LOT

For sure...but going from one extreme to another is the issue. Especially considering this was Stan's guy who he pushed so hard what a hidden gem he was at whatever crack pot mens league he was coaching over in Sweden.

Think we all knew the Q era was only going to end 1 way...with a crashing boom, so I won't sit here and say at the end he was at the top of his game either.....just always thought this hire also was a large dent in Stan's armor when being evaluated.
- SteveRain

Didnt we learn this from the Krause/Phil Jackson era - don't bring in a coach with no NHL experience to run an NHL team -

Didnt we learn this from the Krause/Phil Jackson era - don't bring in a coach with no NHL experience to run an NHL team -
- glennjpawlak22

Great comparison.

I am agreement with you and others on ownership pushing hard to win....especially during the lawsuit/investigation.

My point on JC has nothing to do with that. He was just a god awful hockey coach, if we even call him that, and you can see the night and day difference between how this team performs under JC and even Derek King vs Richardson.
- SteveRain

Colliton is 38 years old. He just coached Abottsford 15 games over hockey .500. In 3 season's as an AHL coach he is 30 games over hockey .500.

He's won a couple of playoff rounds.

Coaching the Hawks over parts of 4 seasons including Covid he ended up 5 games under NHL. 500. and beat Edmonton in the Bubble. He was actually over .500 as a coach until a couple of weeks before he got fired.

Bowman was most likely told to not take on any additional salaries and had to promote a guy already under contract to the team just like they have done in the past.

Richardson is 54. He coached 4 years in Binghampton and was 30 games over hockey .500 and never won a playoff round.

He is 23 under NHL .500.

This is a results oriented business. This is a league that usually hires experience.

I will bet you my 1972 Chicago Cougars signed hockey stick Colliton coaches in the NHL again.

Colliton is 38 years old. He just coached Abottsford 15 games over hockey .500. In 3 season's as an AHL coach he is 30 games over hockey .500.

He's won a couple of playoff rounds.

Coaching the Hawks over parts of 4 seasons including Covid he ended up 5 games under NHL. 500. and beat Edmonton in the Bubble. He was actually over .500 as a coach until a couple of weeks before he got fired.

Bowman was most likely told to not take on any additional salaries and had to promote a guy already under contract to the team just like they have done in the past.

Richardson is 54. He coached 4 years in Binghampton and was 30 games over hockey .500 and never won a playoff round.

He is 23 under NHL .500.

This is a results oriented business. This is a league that usually hires experience.

I will bet you my 1972 Chicago Cougars signed hockey stick Colliton coaches in the NHL again.
- stevefrmglencoe

Sher-Wood or Northland ?

Sher-Wood or Northland ?
- LAHawk

Northland Custom Pro with Gunzo's logo. Staight blade. Black Tape on blade. White on top.

Northland Custom Pro with Gunzo's logo. Staight blade. Black Tape on blade. White on top.
- stevefrmglencoe

Awesome, used to go to most Cougar's games, including the AVCO cup final at Randhurst.

Put him a package for young right handed defenseman. Imo he inconsistent OK skills and allergic to board play for the most part. Personally I never care for him as a player. Keep or let him go either way.

and how gun shy will the organization be sending him to WJC after what happened with Dach? Think that ship has sailed as well.
- SteveRain

Please, hockey is a contact sport and the Dach injury could have happened playing in the NHL, AHL, ECHL, WHL or any other league.

KK will start the season with the Hawks, then will be loaned to Canada for the WJC. After the WJC, Kyle will evaluate his development and decide if it's back the the WHL or on to the NHL.

I dont know if you play Bedard on the big team this year other than a drawn out 9 game deal. Take the temperature of the team. If they look good maybe he stays in or if he looks great. Take thos 9 games up to the WJC, send him there. Send him back to junior. Get him stronger and understanding the daily grind and save a year of his entry. Unless all the pieces fall together or he's close to dominant at the NHL level. There are too many knuckleheads in the NHL that'll take runs at him. Not knowing players like him bring the tide up and all the boats with it.
- BluemanGuruu

Yea even if he had a Jack Hughes rookie kind of year he'll most likely be playing in the NHL all year. I'm thinking the kids going to be a little better than okay this year.

it is funny how as tried and tru Blackhawks fan, I started fan boyng that the sudden influx of three outside (oh Bedard...4) players was going to start the climb in the standings...maybe not to the center of the non playoff pack, but close!

It was because except for my vile dislike for cheap shot Perry, I really liked the NHL player adds.

then I come back down to Earth.

But we all have to respect the grizzle the team has upfront.

I think the play of the young defenders from Vlasic, to Kaiser (Remember, I thought Vlasic should have played all last year with the parent club...and think Kaiser can handle the rigors of NHL full time indoctrination, but watch, he needs up in Rockford for much of the time.)

There are only FOUR NHL defenseman rostered, so that means besides Vlasic, there is plenty of audition time for Isaak Phillips, Filip Roos, and the young stable of left handers and LhRD Nolan Allan to get some games in.

Kevin Korchinski's play (when in possession in his end) will decide his future as a returnee or a starter, not a press box sitter.

I guess I come down to earth knowing Mrzazek will hold the net until Söderblom take sit from him.

I am not jinxing them, but here's where the team is on my next year's 2024 draft list, barring another lottery win:


- wiz1901https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts

5th that seems fair.

Put him a package for young right handed defenseman. Imo he inconsistent OK skills and allergic to board play for the most part. Personally I never care for him as a player. Keep or let him go either way.
- Scott1977

I think it was you who questioned trading the 2nd round pick to Philly and in return we got LAs 2024.

I believe KD would like to have the extra 2024 pick to trade up in the draft next year. Sounded like he tried to trade up this year in the 1st round and there was no takers.