Being elite offensively makes you the big bucks no doubt.

My gripe is when Girgensons becomes the fall guy when there were 4 Sabres players on the entire roster this year whose controllers didn’t disconnect once asked to defend.

The Sabres biggest climb in the standings will come when they can get at the very least average defensive metrics from Tage, Skinner, Cozens, Peterka, and Power.

Clifton and Johnson replacing Joker and Lybushkin should help.

Along with a goalie that can stop a beachball ti pair with Levi.

I do not remember many instances where a team finished top 3 in goals scored and missed the playoffs.

The Sabres were a special level of defensive and goaltending ineptitude this past year
- Swedish_Jesus

heh

Not sure if this was a joke or you were serious? Any chance you looked at the previous let’s say 10 Selke Trophy winners? Without even looking I can tell you that all of them had 60+ points. Girgensons has hit 20+ points twice and 30 points once. He’s never had 31 or more. He also hasn’t hit 20 points in 7 seasons.

This is the guy you think deserves a Selke trophy or a few votes?

Don’t think you were coherent when you wrote this down. Girgensons is the furthest thing from a Selke trophy nominee.
- Jammerz04

Yes, I think a high end defensive forward should have received a few votes for an award given to the best defensive forward in the sport.

Girgs-Jost-Okposo 57%
Skinner-Mitts-Tuch 55%
Peterka-Cozens-Quinn 55%
Girgs-Krebs-Okposo 46%

What's it mean going into a new season? No clue. Trade Tage and waive Krebs?

- Lunaion

Look, there’s sample size bias at play here.

We don’t know what happens when you translate these impacts over a full 82 game season.

But I can understand the rationale of breaking up Skinner-Tage-Tuch when as a line they gave up 3.41 goals against per 60 minutes last year.

As prolific as they were offensively, they were a nightmare defensively.

Yes, I think a high end defensive forward should have received a few votes for an award given to the best defensive forward in the sport.
- Swedish_Jesus

Well…. Then why didn’t he?

Look, there’s sample size bias at play here.

We don’t know what happens when you translate these impacts over a full 82 game season.

But I can understand the rationale of breaking up Skinner-Tage-Tuch when as a line they gave up 3.41 goals against per 60 minutes last year.

As prolific as they were offensively, they were a nightmare defensively.
- Swedish_Jesus

Was it them or the was it the Run and Gun system they ran for 65gms of the season. Tuch is pretty good backchecker and Skinner has improved on it over the last 2yrs. Let's see how they are when or if Granato puts somewhat of a 200ft D system in place.

Well…. Then why didn’t he?
- IndianaSabresFan

because everyone else is good.
Because good is dumb.

~Dark Helmet

I’m all for improving the roster.

But pretending that Girgensons is an issue on your 4th line is the euqivalent of complaining about having Jeff Skinner on your first line.

We’re incessantly bit$&ing on here about things that aren’t problems.
- Swedish_Jesus

we add 2 d men that may be better, may not be better than bush and joker and you act like we are dancing in the playoffs


right now, this team is taking a step back unless levi wins the calder and gets vezina votes

Right, and if the Selke award was voted on by the analytics community then Girgensons would have received several Selke votes.

But because the Mike Harrington’s and Paul Hamilton’s of the world didn’t have him on their ballot then I guess were the idiots right ?
- Swedish_Jesus

datsyuk
bergeron
kopitar
barkov
ror
lehitnen
peca
girgensons

I do not think as of now, peterka is a second liner

so what 2 bodies do you flake cozens with?

casey and savoie?

The arguments in favor of Girgs signing with the Sabres range from, it's only 1 year to he deserves a selke for being the best individual defensive player....

Well…. Then why didn’t he?
- IndianaSabresFan

I do not think as of now, peterka is a second liner

so what 2 bodies do you flake cozens with?

casey and savoie?
- homiedclown

Do you see Savoie in Buffalo full time next season?

The arguments in favor of Girgs signing with the Sabres range from, it's only 1 year to he deserves a selke for being the best individual defensive player....
- washedup20

Do you see Savoie in Buffalo full time next season?
- washedup20

yes due to adams sitting on his hands and not grabbing a decent middle 6 guy for a year

Do you see Savoie in Buffalo full time next season?
- washedup20

yes due to adams sitting on his hands and not grabbing a decent middle 6 guy for a year
- homiedclown

- homiedclown

Who is his goon then?

Who is his goon then?
- washedup20

I do not think as of now, peterka is a second liner

so what 2 bodies do you flake cozens with?

casey and savoie?
- homiedclown

Tage and Greenway...?

Tage and Greenway...?
- kingcong39

Why on earth would you move Tage from 1C?

Why on earth would you move Tage from 1C?
- washedup20

Just going off the coach's last interview...

Alex Newhook gets the Zack MacEwen +1 deal with Montreal.

Both incredible contracts for incredible hockey players

Just going off the coach's last interview...
- kingcong39

the one where he was talking about using different personnel in critical situations or injuries in the top 6?

Why on earth would you move Tage from 1C?
- washedup20

If Florida can have Tkachuk, Barkov, and Reinhart on different lines, why can’t Buffalo produce two high end forward lines in the top 6 ?

If Vegas can have Eichel, Stone, Karlsson on three different lines, why can’t Buffalo balance their talent over three different lines ?

I’ve articulated why it may make sense to break up the top line the last few pages 🤷🏻‍♂️

If Florida can have Tkachuk, Barkov, and Reinhart on different lines, why can’t Buffalo produce two high end forward lines in the top 6 ?

If Vegas can have Eichel, Stone, Karlsson on three different lines, why can’t Buffalo balance their talent over three different lines ?

I’ve articulated why it may make sense to break up the top line the last few pages 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Swedish_Jesus

thanks coach