Because many stop paying attention after the 1st round, the real situation is the Sabres team plays soft, so drafting guys (while very talented) who play that similar style exaggerates that narrative.
- washedup20

If you think Benson is soft or plays soft then you'd be wrong. Savoie, Rosen and maybe Ostlund fill your above generalization but Benson absolutely does not.

So out of Rosen, Savoie, Ostlund, Kulich, Benson, who do you see as elite and making the jump to those comps? How long do you think each takes and what role are they playing on the Sabres?
- washedup20

I personally think all 4 of Benson, Savoie, Kulich, Rosen are NHL ready by 2024/2025.

I hate doing player comps, but from a stylistic perspective:

Benson- Marner
Savoie- Marchessault
Kulich- Nederriter
Rosen- Burakovsky.

I probably just missed it but isn't Clague a UFA? I thought we let him walk.
- QuinnFan

They re-signed him on a 2-way.

but our first 4 picks don't play soft at all. the rest i don't know/care. Miedema plays hard.
- TheSabresTaco

First 4 picks of this past draft?

Something has to give. Hard to imagine 3G and 8D.
- Lunaion

I would think they go

13/8/2.

Rousek’s ability to go up and down without waivers helps that.

My favorite Sabre was 5’10. Danny fing Briere. https://www.hockeydb.com/...ts/pdisplay.php?pid=16000
- Da_Cashman

max was under 6 foot

Those are fair assessments for getting both.

I would add the leafs onto your list with Matt murray and Brodie
- Sabretooth9

First 4 picks of this past draft?
- washedup20

yes

first 5. then a goalie. I dunno bout the last two. don't really care either.

They re-signed him on a 2-way.
- TheSabresTaco

Thank you. Tried searching and found zilch for some reason.

Thank you. Tried searching and found zilch for some reason.
- QuinnFan

my man:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kale-clague

I personally think all 4 of Benson, Savoie, Kulich, Rosen are NHL ready by 2024/2025.

I hate doing player comps, but from a stylistic perspective:

Benson- Marner
Savoie- Marchessault
Kulich- Nederriter
Rosen- Burakovsky.
- Swedish_Jesus

add tage skinner, tuch, cozens, casey, quinn, krebs, peterka

thats 12

maybe krebs plays 4th line


thats still 11 guys for 9 slots

they can probably hold 1 back a year, but someone has to go

Good post, I think thats a solid assessment on him.

How long until he see's consitent NHL time and where in the lineup is he slotted?
- washedup20

Good question - Call me crazy, but I think he's more NHL ready RIGHT NOW than any our prospects, including Rousek, Kulich and Savoie. Not by a lot but he'd fit in the 3rd line very well right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the 9 game tryout (as Savoie will), and outperforms Savoie. Realistically, I think he's sent back to Juniors, dominates there and at the under 20s, and is a full time Sabre in 2024/25, an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier/stronger. He absolutely projects top 6. I see him on Cozens line. Imagine what a bltch it would be playing against a line of Cozens-Benson-Peterka? That line is 110% effort every shift.

- TheSabresTaco

Clague's QO was 787 and his min celery was 300k.

my guess is they dropped the nhl celery to minimum wage and then gave him an extra 100k for rochester.

otherwise the qo would have been fine.

my man:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kale-clague
- TheSabresTaco

Yeah, definite operator errors going on over here. I was searching Klague.

yes

first 5. then a goalie. I dunno bout the last two. don't really care either.
- TheSabresTaco

I actually agree with this, this was the 1st draft that was taken into consideration when drafting.

The past 2 drafts along with the NHL rosters that were built, were soft. The Sabres today are still in hope one of these guys turns into what they need phase.

Good question - Call me crazy, but I think he's more NHL ready RIGHT NOW than any our prospects, including Rousek, Kulich and Savoie. Not by a lot but he'd fit in the 3rd line very well right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the 9 game tryout (as Savoie will), and outperforms Savoie. Realistically, I think he's sent back to Juniors, dominates there and at the under 20s, and is a full time Sabre in 2024/25, an inch taller and 10 pounds heavier/stronger. He absolutely projects top 6. I see him on Cozens line. Imagine what a bltch it would be playing against a line of Cozens-Benson-Peterka? That line is 110% effort every shift.
- turbo044

Orrrrrr

Benson Cozens Quinn

Yeah, definite operator errors going on over here. I was searching Klague.
- QuinnFan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_asNhzXq72w

Clague's QO was 787 and his min celery was 300k.

my guess is they dropped the nhl celery to minimum wage and then gave him an extra 100k for rochester.

otherwise the qo would have been fine.
- TheSabresTaco

My guess is some other things fell through.

I actually agree with this, this was the 1st draft that was taken into consideration when drafting.

The past 2 drafts along with the NHL rosters that were built, were soft. The Sabres today are still in hope one of these guys turns into what they need phase.
- washedup20

I don't know if it necessarily dawned on them this year, but they publicly stated they wanted, and have actively sought, players who are more difficult to play against. Every outside acquisition (draft, trade, UFA) since the TDL has taken this particular issue into account.

add tage skinner, tuch, cozens, casey, quinn, krebs, peterka

thats 12

maybe krebs plays 4th line


thats still 11 guys for 9 slots

they can probably hold 1 back a year, but someone has to go
- homiedclown

Krebs and Mittelstadt’s seats are getting red hot.

I also think they are in a position to move their 2024 1st and Second rounders as well without hesitation.

Would rather move the 2024 first then someone who has already been in your system developing for 1-2 years.

I would think they go

13/8/2.

Rousek’s ability to go up and down without waivers helps that.
- Swedish_Jesus

Maybe. Roch being full on D and G's is awkward, if a deal never happens.

Maybe. Roch being full on D and G's is awkward, if a deal never happens.
- Lunaion

Hence why even without Gerbe’s sources it makes too much sense that trades are coming.

The math doesn’t add up with the amount of d-men and goaltenders we have under contract.

With the forwards Rousek/Kulich/Savoie/Benson all have AHL/WHL eligibility once Quinn comes back.

Krebs and Mittelstadt’s seats are getting red hot.

I also think they are in a position to move their 2024 1st and Second rounders as well without hesitation.

Would rather move the 2024 first then someone who has already been in your system developing for 1-2 years.
- Swedish_Jesus

Orrrrrr

Benson Cozens Quinn


- QuinnFan

Agreed