https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=170552

jost had 104 points in 48 games when he was drafted



the team leader was never drafted
https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=159408

It’s absolutely true. Look at prospect rankings. The guys at the top a lot of times are from the most recent draft
- sbroads24

Well, yes, of course. You really can't see where your logic falls apart?

Kulich is a Grade A prospect. If I go out and draft a Benson of 5 Bensons... Kulich is still a Grade A prospect. It doesn't matter if he is rated 2nd or 6th in our pool. He still is who he is.

what makes it interesting

not all of these skilled prospects will get top 6 ice time in rochester due to numbers
- homiedclown

Why not? You assume that they are all going to be there at the same time.

Why not? You assume that they are all going to be there at the same time.
- Slump Buster

thanks mr sunshine and lollipops

thanks mr sunshine and lollipops
- homiedclown

Its a legit question. Ostlund, Savoie and Benson won't in Roch this year, Kulich probably won't be there for more than another year. That isn't putting a positive spin on it, it is just reality.

Well, yes, of course. You really can't see where your logic falls apart?

Kulich is a Grade A prospect. If I go out and draft a Benson of 5 Bensons... Kulich is still a Grade A prospect. It doesn't matter if he is rated 2nd or 6th in our pool. He still is who he is.
- Slump Buster

I think it really depends but I’d say a majority of the time guys lose value from the point they are drafted until they start producing in the NHL.

Kulich stock has obviously risen.

How about Rosen? Would a team trade a late first for him now? Probably not. Especially not a mid first.

I think it really depends but I’d say a majority of the time guys lose value from the point they are drafted until they start producing in the NHL.

Kulich stock has obviously risen.

How about Rosen? Would a team trade a late first for him now? Probably not. Especially not a mid first.
- sbroads24

Well sure - but none of that has to do with who else was drafted.

crazy




kassian had great numbers in the ohl which of course is more of an example of the original post


https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=106835
- homiedclown

Thought to be a solid power forward. Reduced to a bottom 6 player.

When you think of guys like this you think they dont have talent/skill but they have more in their pinky than all of us combined.

They are closer to Gretzky than we are to them.

Think it's possible that part of his inability to make trades is that some of his prospects have already declined in value.
- Lunaion

Or, just maybe, no one wants them. Cannot trade what no one wants.

Peters was a 2nd round pick! My gosh what was the NHL

Nobody drafts knuckledraggers anymore.
- DirtyDan

Peters was supposed to be good at the time my dude. Pretty sure he played in the Don Cherry AllStar game. He mightve even scored in it!

Or, just maybe, no one wants them. Cannot trade what no one wants.
- TC4145

21 trades in less than 3 years. I don't get the narrative where the guy doesn't make trades.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../trades/staff/kevyn-adams

Well, yes, of course. You really can't see where your logic falls apart?

Kulich is a Grade A prospect. If I go out and draft a Benson of 5 Bensons... Kulich is still a Grade A prospect. It doesn't matter if he is rated 2nd or 6th in our pool. He still is who he is.
- Slump Buster

Kulich is our best prospect. Team wants to trade with the Sabres, Kulich is the first prospect they're asking for.

Its a legit question. Ostlund, Savoie and Benson won't in Roch this year, Kulich probably won't be there for more than another year. That isn't putting a positive spin on it, it is just reality.
- Slump Buster

what are you doing with krebs, casey, quinn, peterka

if keeping them all, and assuming kulich gets promoted


that's the top 9 for the big club and the log jam starts in rochester

Or, just maybe, no one wants them. Cannot trade what no one wants.
- TC4145

I think there's an element of that. We know they want to bring in a G. Now that UPL needs to go through waivers, how much is anyone willing to trade for him? I'd assume very little.

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=170552

jost had 104 points in 48 games when he was drafted



the team leader was never drafted
https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=159408
- homiedclown

My God, he's in the EIHL now, never heard of that league??

what are you doing with krebs, casey, quinn, peterka

if keeping them all, and assuming kulich gets promoted


that's the top 9 for the big club and the log jam starts in rochester
- homiedclown

Logjam? In this scenario, we are talking about one guy potentially being blocked. I hated that we brought back Girgs because I wanted to see Rousek take his spot. That said, injuries are always happening. Kulich and Rousek will get their shots.

I just don't get why there is a negative connotation to all of this. If the kids are knocking on the door and there isn't an obvious spot for them, that is a very, very good thing. But we aren't close to that because the next wave of forwards is still marinating.

21 trades in less than 3 years. I don't get the narrative where the guy doesn't make trades.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../trades/staff/kevyn-adams
- Slump Buster

9 really

eichel, reinhart, risto, montour, staal, hall

he had to do those or lose them aside from eichel

so 3 trades he did not have to make that affected the big club

getting staal, greenway, and stillman

ah; scrub for ahl scrub does not count IMO nor does getting all star ben bishop

21 trades in less than 3 years. I don't get the narrative where the guy doesn't make trades.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../trades/staff/kevyn-adams
- Slump Buster

9 really

eichel, reinhart, risto, montour, staal, hall

he had to do those or lose them aside from eichel

so 3 trades he did not have to make that affected the big club

getting staal, greenway, and stillman

ah; scrub for ahl scrub does not count IMO nor does getting all star ben bishop

what are you doing with krebs, casey, quinn, peterka

if keeping them all, and assuming kulich gets promoted


that's the top 9 for the big club and the log jam starts in rochester
- homiedclown

Not going to block anyone. If they earn a job, they'll make moves.

Gotta love GM speak.

21 trades in less than 3 years. I don't get the narrative where the guy doesn't make trades.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../trades/staff/kevyn-adams
- Slump Buster

How many of those are sells vs adds to the NHL roster

It's not really close that almost all if not all significant trades have been selling pieces hes had to

9 really

eichel, reinhart, risto, montour, staal, hall

he had to do those or lose them aside from eichel

so 3 trades he did not have to make that affected the big club

getting staal, greenway, and stillman

ah; scrub for ahl scrub does not count IMO nor does getting all star ben bishop
- homiedclown

Those are still are some major moves mixed in there. Again, he didn't have a lot of holes to fill because he had prospects coming. It isn't like he was standing still as the team slid backwards.

Logjam? In this scenario, we are talking about one guy potentially being blocked. I hated that we brought back Girgs because I wanted to see Rousek take his spot. That said, injuries are always happening. Kulich and Rousek will get their shots.

.
- Slump Buster

ostlund
savoie
rosen
neuchev
kisakov
kozak
nadeau
all under contract

poltapov
sardarian
benson
wahlberg

yet to get under contract

I am not counting murray, rousek, weissbach, biro or murray


the roster with the big club is set if kulich or savoie gets the call, assuming they move olofsson

How many of those are sells vs adds to the NHL roster

It's not really close that almost all if not all significant trades have been selling pieces hes had to
- sbroads24

Its still roster building, regardless of how or why.

You said they did nothing to address those areas. They did.

You don't have to admit your wrong. We already know.
- DirtyDan

So they addressed top 4 Dman.

ostlund
savoie
rosen
neuchev
kisakov
kozak
nadeau
all under contract

poltapov
sardarian
benson
wahlberg

yet to get under contract

I am not counting murray, rousek, weissbach, biro or murray


the roster with the big club is set if kulich or savoie gets the call, assuming they move olofsson
- homiedclown

How many of those players are within a country mile of the NHL? We can name several current players that won't be in a year or two. Again, these are good problems to have, but we aren't really near to any of this being true. If Ostlund challenges a guy like Mitts for playing time in 2 years, fantastic.