Mike Augello: Toronto Maple Leafs Top-40 Prospects - #39

Trade Willy























































NOT!

Trade Willy

NOT!
- Zezel

If he wants to sign for more 9M, he can (frank) off.

IT HAS BEGUN!

IT HAS BEGUN!
- Scabeh

No it has not.

Quit it.

If he wants to sign for more 9M, he can (frank) off.
- mjones242

Trade Willy and Knies for Ohtani... Ducks win cup... Jays win World Series...


MLSE changes priorites... buys Rodgers out and Jays sign Ohtani 600 mil for 8 yrs.

If he wants to sign for more 9M, he can (frank) off.
- mjones242

Next summer.

IT HAS BEGUN!
- Scabeh

most teams can't do a top 40, most are limited to a top 10, maybe top 20 if they are lucky.

Trade Willy

NOT!
- Zezel

You know I'd say that my principal reason for not wanting to trade any of our bigger names is that we wouldn't get anyone back who would bring what they do. You need guys to put the puck in the net and that's what Willy and Matthews do. Last year we had 80 goals from them, and 66 more from Marner & JT. The year before we had 94 from Matthews and Nylander, and then 62 more from Marner & JT. One year prior, prorated because of the shortened pandemic season, you had 85 from Matthews & Nylander and another 57 from Marner & JT. It should be noted that Marner did score more goals than Nylander in both 2020 and 2021. I'm sort of grouping them that way because over the past 3 years more often than not that is your separation between lines 1 & 2 (Matthews with Marner and JT with Nylander).

That said, unlike teams of the past, I'm less tied to these stars today. Maybe it's the salaries or the fact that media has grown so rampant that it's driven many of the players away from the media to some extent - but the heroes of the past that we all glommed onto - like Clark or Gilmour (or further back for me as a kid in Sittler, Salming, Palmateer and McDonald) - seemed more invested in winning as Leafs than the current group. Out of this group, I believe Rielly is the most invested player.

Like . . . I remember when Clark was traded and I was at home getting ready to go out to a club but the TV was on in the background and I remember them saying Clark had been traded to Quebec for Sundin and I was legitimately angry and upset. Not by the trade because we probably got the better player, but by the fact that at the time I felt that you just don't trade a guy like Clark. I think for some of us older folks, it that passion we're hoping to find in Max Domi. I don't need him to play like Clark, but I want him to care like Clark did.

Come forward 30 years and I'd trade any of the core-4 for the right return as long as it helped us now - I just don't see that type of deal happening from the type of players apt to be moved.

If you are a certain age, you'll love this:

https://arcadeblogger.com...-of-tron-roadside-pickup/

If he wants to sign for more 9M, he can (frank) off.
- mjones242

he has the stats to ask for around 10M

someone send me a blu skie invite
tks

If you are a certain age, you'll love this:

https://arcadeblogger.com...-of-tron-roadside-pickup/
- Atomic Wedgie

You can smell the cigarettes and hear the quarters jingling like atmospheric wind chimes.

You can smell the cigarettes and hear the quarters jingling like atmospheric wind chimes.
- Monkeypunk

Washington Post has an article on it - they estimate it's worth $11,000 USD.

most teams can't do a top 40, most are limited to a top 10, maybe top 20 if they are lucky.
- Symba007

they say Commissioner Augello is more than able to do a hot one hundred

You know I'd say that my principal reason for not wanting to trade any of our bigger names is that we wouldn't get anyone back who would bring what they do. You need guys to put the puck in the net and that's what Willy and Matthews do. Last year we had 80 goals from them, and 66 more from Marner & JT. The year before we had 94 from Matthews and Nylander, and then 62 more from Marner & JT. One year prior, prorated because of the shortened pandemic season, you had 85 from Matthews & Nylander and another 57 from Marner & JT. It should be noted that Marner did score more goals than Nylander in both 2020 and 2021. I'm sort of grouping them that way because over the past 3 years more often than not that is your separation between lines 1 & 2 (Matthews with Marner and JT with Nylander).

That said, unlike teams of the past, I'm less tied to these stars today. Maybe it's the salaries or the fact that media has grown so rampant that it's driven many of the players away from the media to some extent - but the heroes of the past that we all glommed onto - like Clark or Gilmour (or further back for me as a kid in Sittler, Salming, Palmateer and McDonald) - seemed more invested in winning as Leafs than the current group. Out of this group, I believe Rielly is the most invested player.

Like . . . I remember when Clark was traded and I was at home getting ready to go out to a club but the TV was on in the background and I remember them saying Clark had been traded to Quebec for Sundin and I was legitimately angry and upset. Not by the trade because we probably got the better player, but by the fact that at the time I felt that you just don't trade a guy like Clark. I think for some of us older folks, it that passion we're hoping to find in Max Domi. I don't need him to play like Clark, but I want him to care like Clark did.

Come forward 30 years and I'd trade any of the core-4 for the right return as long as it helped us now - I just don't see that type of deal happening from the type of players apt to be moved.
- Monkeypunk

Agreed about a trade being difficult. I don't know if today's players care less though. People often feel like the things they grew up with were more legit than today's things. I think it could be the difference in how we feel now more than how they feel. When I look back at the playoffs last year it looked to me like there was as much passion from these players as there is from any players.

If you are a certain age, you'll love this:

https://arcadeblogger.com...-of-tron-roadside-pickup/
- Atomic Wedgie

I never really played Tron, but that cabinet is awesome. I wonder if the person who discarded it will realize what happened.

I would love to have an old console. Like the 4 person Offroad console with the steering wheel and pedals. Or WWF Royal Rumble. I am the champion of that game.

You know I'd say that my principal reason for not wanting to trade any of our bigger names is that we wouldn't get anyone back who would bring what they do. You need guys to put the puck in the net and that's what Willy and Matthews do. Last year we had 80 goals from them, and 66 more from Marner & JT. The year before we had 94 from Matthews and Nylander, and then 62 more from Marner & JT. One year prior, prorated because of the shortened pandemic season, you had 85 from Matthews & Nylander and another 57 from Marner & JT. It should be noted that Marner did score more goals than Nylander in both 2020 and 2021. I'm sort of grouping them that way because over the past 3 years more often than not that is your separation between lines 1 & 2 (Matthews with Marner and JT with Nylander).

That said, unlike teams of the past, I'm less tied to these stars today. Maybe it's the salaries or the fact that media has grown so rampant that it's driven many of the players away from the media to some extent - but the heroes of the past that we all glommed onto - like Clark or Gilmour (or further back for me as a kid in Sittler, Salming, Palmateer and McDonald) - seemed more invested in winning as Leafs than the current group. Out of this group, I believe Rielly is the most invested player.

Like . . . I remember when Clark was traded and I was at home getting ready to go out to a club but the TV was on in the background and I remember them saying Clark had been traded to Quebec for Sundin and I was legitimately angry and upset. Not by the trade because we probably got the better player, but by the fact that at the time I felt that you just don't trade a guy like Clark. I think for some of us older folks, it that passion we're hoping to find in Max Domi. I don't need him to play like Clark, but I want him to care like Clark did.

Come forward 30 years and I'd trade any of the core-4 for the right return as long as it helped us now - I just don't see that type of deal happening from the type of players apt to be moved.
- Monkeypunk

You could trade for picks/prospects and bring in another player(s) that would provide close to or equal to his goal production (tarasenko).
But i wholeheartedly agree, i have no emotional attachment to anyone on this team and feel like its more about money/status then winning to them.

Agreed about a trade being difficult. I don't know if today's players care less though. People often feel like the things they grew up with were more legit than today's things. I think it could be the difference in how we feel now more than how they feel. When I look back at the playoffs last year it looked to me like there was as much passion from these players as there is from any players.
- Zezel

There's a certain truth to success equating to our perception of their investment - and also that nostalgia is strong. Over the past 3 playoff years (min. 10 games), McDavid has 1.78PPG, Draisaitl has 1.71PPG, Marchand - the #3 scorer in that period - has 1.32. They haven't won.

In fact there are only 23 players in the NHL to have at least 1 PPG in the playoffs over the past 3 seasons, and 3 of them are Leafs - Marner (1.04), Matthews (1) and Nylander (1). Malkin and Crosby - those perennial playoff nobodies also average 1 point per game over the past 3 seasons.

So maybe you're right. But based on these last 5 or 6 years since this core was put together, and the narrative created, if they don't at least get to the final-4, history will be really unkind.

I never really played Tron, but that cabinet is awesome. I wonder if the person who discarded it will realize what happened.

I would love to have an old console. Like the 4 person Offroad console with the steering wheel and pedals. Or WWF Royal Rumble. I am the champion of that game.
- Zezel

I played the original Tron a lot (as well as the different Tron games on Intellivision).

I don't think I ever played the Tron game in the article.

I have from time to time looked at getting a table top arcade game. They have them now so that you can load thousands of games onto them.


Although I really only need about 10:

Galaxian (yeah, over Galaga)
Centipede
Ms. Pacman
Dig Dug
NHL 93 and 94
Tecmo Superbowl
Pole Position
Qix
Qbert
Zaxxon

I played the original Tron a lot (as well as the different Tron games on Intellivision).

I don't think I ever played the Tron game in the article.

I have from time to time looked at getting a table top arcade game. They have them now so that you can load thousands of games onto them.


Although I really only need about 10:

Galaxian (yeah, over Galaga)
Centipede
Ms. Pacman
Dig Dug
NHL 93 and 94
Tecmo Superbowl
Pole Position
Qix
Qbert
Zaxxon
- Atomic Wedgie

Add Frogger and Donkey Kong

Trade Willy and Knies for Ohtani... Ducks win cup... Jays win World Series...


MLSE changes priorites... buys Rodgers out and Jays sign Ohtani 600 mil for 8 yrs.
- dozerD10

I love it all ...just not sure why we'd buy out Aaron Rodgers.

There's a certain truth to success equating to our perception of their investment and nostalgia is strong. Over the past 3 playoff years (min. 10 games), McDavid has 1.78PPG, Draisaitl has 1.71PPG, Marchand - the #3 scorer in that period - has 1.32. They haven't won.

In fact there are only 23 players in the NHL to have at least 1 PPG in the playoffs over the past 3 seasons, and 3 of them are Leafs - Marner (1.04), Matthews (1) and Nylander (1). Malkin and Crosby - those perennial playoff nobodies also average 1 point per game over the past 3 seasons.

So maybe you're right. But based on these last 5 or 6 years since this core was put together, and the narrative created, if they don't at least get to the final-4, history will be really unkind.
- Monkeypunk

Definitely, it would be very disappointing if they don't have longer runs. I just look back at some of the big moments from their first round win, and if you rewatch those, it looks to me like they're as into it as any other hockey players. It's sort of a go-to comment when a team doesn't win that they don't care, but I don't see it.

I played the original Tron a lot (as well as the different Tron games on Intellivision).

I don't think I ever played the Tron game in the article.

I have from time to time looked at getting a table top arcade game. They have them now so that you can load thousands of games onto them.


Although I really only need about 10:

Galaxian (yeah, over Galaga)
Centipede
Ms. Pacman
Dig Dug
NHL 93 and 94
Tecmo Superbowl
Pole Position
Qix
Qbert
Zaxxon
- Atomic Wedgie

Galaga had a bug where you left one of the left side bee ships alone and let it swoop in and shoot and just dodge it - for like 15 or 20 minutes - and then it would just stop shooting. Then you blow it up and no one shoots at you the rest of the game. We'd pile up high scores and play for hours on one quarter. Which now really stands out as a glaring sign that we were all really desperate for just ANYTHING to do.

I've never played anything as much as I played NHL 94, and I am a gaming geek. I've played Doom, Quake, Civilization, Master of Magic, Master of Orion, blah, blah, blah - games in my 20s when I had all the time in the world - and nothing came close to how much time I spent playing NHL 94.

Zaxxon and Pole Position rocked. I was also a huge fan of Elevator Action and Spy Hunter.

most teams can't do a top 40, most are limited to a top 10, maybe top 20 if they are lucky.
- Symba007

If you could get one or two new guys per year/draft and assume it takes 3-4 years of development ....you'd think if a team had 5-6 good prospects they'd be ecstatic.