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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
I'm tired of waiting.... make a trade for Karlsson already
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Hahaha
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
I'm tired of waiting.... make a trade for Karlsson already
- YouMeAndDupuis9


The dog days of summer are the worst for NHL talk lol.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 22 @ 3:51 PM ET
The dog days of summer are the worst for NHL talk lol.
- madmike71

It's been a little better with Karlsson and now Tatar watch. 3 more weeks until the excitement of who wins the sixth defenseman and every bottom six job.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 3:53 PM ET
It's been a little better with Karlsson and now Tatar watch. 3 more weeks until the excitement of who wins the sixth defenseman and every bottom six job.
- Tojo.

It should be POJ-Smith but some stupid poop will probably happen haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 3:54 PM ET
The dog days of summer are the worst for NHL talk lol.
- madmike71

We've been lucky this year, getting Karlsson at the beginning of August gave us a lot than what usually happens.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Aug 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
The funny thing about Hextall is that he did all of the hard things okay, it's the easy stuff he just made a complete mess of.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 5:29 PM ET
The funny thing about Hextall is that he did all of the hard things okay, it's the easy stuff he just made a complete mess of.
- SuperHenderson13

Lmfao 😂
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 22 @ 6:12 PM ET
It should be POJ-Smith but some stupid poop will probably happen haha.
- 668710

I'd like to see it. But someone pointed out they might need another PKer on the right side defense unless one of the lefties can play his offside. That might give Ruhwedel an edge. I'm assuming Karlsson and Smith aren't great options and at this point Letang shouldn't play top pair either.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 22 @ 7:01 PM ET
I'd like to see it. But someone pointed out they might need another PKer on the right side defense unless one of the lefties can play his offside. That might give Ruhwedel an edge. I'm assuming Karlsson and Smith aren't great options and at this point Letang shouldn't play top pair either.
- Tojo.


I kind of feel that one of POJ or Smith gets moved. Also wonder if the bottom pair RD is even on the roster right now. I've supported Ruh in the past, but I wish we had another option. No question in my mind Sully will give Ruhwedel the job if Smith is the alternative.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 7:05 PM ET
I'd like to see it. But someone pointed out they might need another PKer on the right side defense unless one of the lefties can play his offside. That might give Ruhwedel an edge. I'm assuming Karlsson and Smith aren't great options and at this point Letang shouldn't play top pair either.
- Tojo.

I thought Letang would be out there killing more penalties due to Karlsson being the top PP guy now.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 7:06 PM ET
I kind of feel that one of POJ or Smith gets moved. Also wonder if the bottom pair RD is even on the roster right now. I've supported Ruh in the past, but I wish we had another option. No question in my mind Sully will give Ruhwedel the job if Smith is the alternative.
- madmike71

Do we not like Friedman as an option for the third pair?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 22 @ 7:27 PM ET
Do we not like Friedman as an option for the third pair?
- 668710

Yeah between Smith, Ruhwedel, and Friedman we are fine. One of those guys will form a fine bottom pairing with POJ. The yearly brain worm of trying to upgrade our bottom RD that keeps infecting our GMs has lead to some of our worst moves. Just let the minimum contracts hash it out.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 22 @ 7:31 PM ET
Who were Carters linemates directly after the trade?
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Aug 22 @ 7:31 PM ET
Do we not like Friedman as an option for the third pair?
- 668710

If Sullivan let’s him play his game I believe he’s and asset.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 22 @ 7:47 PM ET
I kind of feel that one of POJ or Smith gets moved. Also wonder if the bottom pair RD is even on the roster right now. I've supported Ruh in the past, but I wish we had another option. No question in my mind Sully will give Ruhwedel the job if Smith is the alternative.
- madmike71

Before sure and I could still see swapping one for a forward, but if that doesn't emerge as an option it's good having both. Smith provides some needed insurance behind Letang and Karlsson. And I do think POJ is a top four waiting to happen if they decide to shed Pettersson down the road.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 22 @ 7:51 PM ET
I thought Letang would be out there killing more penalties due to Karlsson being the top PP guy now.
- 668710

He will, but he didn't have to kill much at all last year with Petry and Ruuta. I'm ok with Letang as the second guy, but I'd prefer not to use him as the first guy who sometimes gets 2 shifts on a PK now.

And he's just one. Can EK or Smith kill penalties? If a lefty can slide over they're fine though, comfortable with all three of Graves, Pettersson, and POJ.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Aug 22 @ 7:53 PM ET
Do we not like Friedman as an option for the third pair?
- 668710

I'd be fine with him over Ruhwedel, but clearly Sully isn't. Smith maybe because he did play him a lot when he was up. Still think Smith beats POJ if only one plays, and I like both.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 22 @ 8:08 PM ET
Yeah between Smith, Ruhwedel, and Friedman we are fine. One of those guys will form a fine bottom pairing with POJ. The yearly brain worm of trying to upgrade our bottom RD that keeps infecting our GMs has lead to some of our worst moves. Just let the minimum contracts hash it out.
- Victoro311


I think someone like Ilya lyubushkin would have been perfect for our 3rd pair.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 22 @ 8:16 PM ET
I think someone like Ilya lyubushkin would have been perfect for our 3rd pair.
- 10inchTerror

But that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Dude makes like $3 mil. We just got rid of Ruuta. Why continue to revisit the #5 d man making second pairing money thing when it hasn’t worked out once and we’ve had to dump him every single time. Johnson. Gudbranson. Ruuta. No more of this, please.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 22 @ 8:32 PM ET
I think someone like Ilya lyubushkin would have been perfect for our 3rd pair.
- 10inchTerror

Why? Because he’s more expensive and worse than Ruhwedel?
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Aug 22 @ 8:50 PM ET
Do we not like Friedman as an option for the third pair?
- 668710

He just can't control himself. Whether it's risky plays or getting out of position or taking a penalty his pros are always outweighed by the cons. Serviceable is spots, but not a regular.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 9:35 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-345614866?tid=277729154

Nice little read up on Poulin
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
He just can't control himself. Whether it's risky plays or getting out of position or taking a penalty his pros are always outweighed by the cons. Serviceable is spots, but not a regular.
- burgh4life87

I mean with as little as the third pair would play I think it be ok. But yea I'm not talking all 82 games by any stretch.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 9:41 PM ET
He will, but he didn't have to kill much at all last year with Petry and Ruuta. I'm ok with Letang as the second guy, but I'd prefer not to use him as the first guy who sometimes gets 2 shifts on a PK now.

And he's just one. Can EK or Smith kill penalties? If a lefty can slide over they're fine though, comfortable with all three of Graves, Pettersson, and POJ.

- Tojo.

Yea I'm not sure about Graves playing the right side, don't think Petterson does and I can't recall if POJ does.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 22 @ 9:43 PM ET
But that’s exactly what I’m talking about. Dude makes like $3 mil. We just got rid of Ruuta. Why continue to revisit the #5 d man making second pairing money thing when it hasn’t worked out once and we’ve had to dump him every single time. Johnson. Gudbranson. Ruuta. No more of this, please.
- Victoro311

Yea haha, we finally have a cheap (frank)ing 3rd pair, Dubas will keep it that way.
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