Ryan Wilson: The path to Tomas Tatar The path to Tomas Tatar

LTIR Carter

LTIR Carter or Tatar signing for $1.1M or less are basically the only paths.

LTIR Carter or Tatar signing for $1.1M or less are basically the only paths.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

You could always trade that Crosbum.

LTIR Carter or Tatar signing for $1.1M or less are basically the only paths.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Pitlick is at 1.1 with us 80,000 over the cap, so Tatar would have to sign for 1mil with us dumping Pitlick. Or just LTIR Carter lol

Pitlick is at 1.1 with us 80,000 over the cap, so Tatar would have to sign for 1mil with us dumping Pitlick. Or just LTIR Carter lol
- 668710

How (frank)ing annoying has this flat cap been? Like, we can't sign a ~$1-2M player? And neither can any other contender?

If they are not going to increase the cap, there should be more paths to alleviate cap space. In football, there's never a single shred of worry about being cap compliant, they just restructure and create more space.

How (frank)ing annoying has this flat cap been? Like, we can't sign a ~$1-2M player? And neither can any other contender?

If they are not going to increase the cap, there should be more paths to alleviate cap space. In football, there's never a single shred of worry about being cap compliant, they just restructure and create more space.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I've always thought there should be a cap hit reduction for players who you drafted and have only ever played for your organization. Their salaries would still be paid in full to make the 50/50 HRR work out, but maybe like a 10% discount per player (i.e. the Pens would save $878k per year on Crosby) as a reward for good drafting.

How (frank)ing annoying has this flat cap been? Like, we can't sign a ~$1-2M player? And neither can any other contender?

If they are not going to increase the cap, there should be more paths to alleviate cap space. In football, there's never a single shred of worry about being cap compliant, they just restructure and create more space.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

You can also blame Rutherford for JJ, 900+k buyout.

I've always thought there should be a cap hit reduction for players who you drafted and have only ever played for your organization. Their salaries would still be paid in full to make the 50/50 HRR work out, but maybe like a 10% discount per player (i.e. the Pens would save $878k per year on Crosby) as a reward for good drafting.
- jmatchett383

That's actually pretty interesting. Never thought of that.

what would the pens realistically be willing to give up to trade Carter do you think?

@j
That’s basically the same concept as Bird rights in basketball and I agree, itd be a good idea. That and have vet min contracts not count against the cap.

what would the pens realistically be willing to give up to trade Carter do you think?
- hello it's me 2050

Probably a 3rd RP.

@j
That’s basically the same concept as Bird rights in basketball and I agree, itd be a good idea. That and have vet min contracts not count against the cap.
- Victoro311

Ehh I'm not for the vet min contracts but definitely like the idea of the guys you drafted.

what would the pens realistically be willing to give up to trade Carter do you think?
- hello it's me 2050

Idk you tell us what they do, you're from 2050. Do we get rid of Carter? Lol

what would the pens realistically be willing to give up to trade Carter do you think?
- hello it's me 2050

Pens also have SJ 3rd rounder in 2026. Id shop a 2026 3rd and 5th round pick attached to Carter for someone to take him this year. Im assuming GMKD would have to approach Carter and essentially tell him he’s planning on playing younger players which would end up with him in the press box. However, Carter could be ok with that if he planned to retire next year. Get paid to do minimal work is the American dream.

But if Tatar is rumored to be taking a big paycut, I don’t see any problem for a deal around $2 mil/year for 2 years. It seems like he’s ok with less money with more term? Worst case scenario he’s a decent player in your bottom 6. Did Tatar have any significant injuries last season?

what would the pens realistically be willing to give up to trade Carter do you think?
- hello it's me 2050

The writer clowns (Kingerski) have suggested giving up a 2nd to dump Carter 50% retained.

Pens also have SJ 3rd rounder in 2026. Id shop a 2026 3rd and 5th round pick attached to Carter for someone to take him this year. Im assuming GMKD would have to approach Carter and essentially tell him he’s planning on playing younger players which would end up with him in the press box. However, Carter could be ok with that if he planned to retire next year. Get paid to do minimal work is the American dream.

But if Tatar is rumored to be taking a big paycut, I don’t see any problem for a deal around $2 mil/year for 2 years. It seems like he’s ok with less money with more term? Worst case scenario he’s a decent player in your bottom 6. Did Tatar have any significant injuries last season?
- drummer829

I don't want Tatar at more than a 1 year deal. I want as much cap space as possible going into next off-season. 1 year deal only or thanks but no thanks.

Pens also have SJ 3rd rounder in 2026. Id shop a 2026 3rd and 5th round pick attached to Carter for someone to take him this year. Im assuming GMKD would have to approach Carter and essentially tell him he’s planning on playing younger players which would end up with him in the press box. However, Carter could be ok with that if he planned to retire next year. Get paid to do minimal work is the American dream.

But if Tatar is rumored to be taking a big paycut, I don’t see any problem for a deal around $2 mil/year for 2 years. It seems like he’s ok with less money with more term? Worst case scenario he’s a decent player in your bottom 6. Did Tatar have any significant injuries last season?
- drummer829

Tatar made 5.25m last season. I don’t seeing him taking a cheap 2 year deal. Pagnotta speculated Toronto may be in the PTO mix as well. So it seems he would rather take a small 1 year deal with a “contender” rather than sign for market rate money with Buffalo or Nashville.

I don't want Tatar at more than a 1 year deal. I want as much cap space as possible going into next off-season. 1 year deal only or thanks but no thanks.
- 668710

Oof what a bad take.

Right?? Tatar at 2mil? Sign me up for 3 years.

It’s tough to think he signs under 3 mil. Would be surprising that even a non contender ponies up just for a TDL asset at 50%

Right?? Tatar at 2mil? Sign me up for 3 years.
- Brownsoldier

2 years is the sweet spot imo.

It’s tough to think he signs under 3 mil. Would be surprising that even a non contender ponies up just for a TDL asset at 50%
- Brownsoldier

Playoff performance limits his TDL value.

Oof what a bad take.
- Feds91Stammer

That I don't want Tatar at more than a 1 year deal? I just wouldn't.

That I don't want Tatar at more than a 1 year deal? I just wouldn't.
- 668710

Why would you lock him in for 2 years? Is it Nylander, Matthews, etc. pipe dream poop?