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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 21 @ 9:59 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Frost, Fantasy Camp, Flyers Daily, TIFH
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Frost, Fantasy Camp, Flyers Daily, TIFH
- bmeltzer

Is either side even looking at a long term deal? Say 4 years or more?

"the Flyers decision-making triumvirate sees it different way." - Speaks volumes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Frost should get a 2-3 year deal at somewhere around 3-3.5M a year.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Aug 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
Cue the female dogging and "trade AHL player Frost" bullsheet from jd250 in 3 - 2 - 1.....
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
Frost should get a 2-3 year deal at somewhere around 3-3.5M a year.
- MJL

why would you want to give him a 3 years deal? wouldn't that then walk him right to UFA?

Either go a series of 1 year deals the next 2 years. Or a 2 years deal. 3 year deal seems like the worst outcome, assuming that takes him to free agency
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 21 @ 10:36 AM ET
Is either side even looking at a long term deal? Say 4 years or more?

"the Flyers decision-making triumvirate sees it different way." - Speaks volumes

- hello it's me 2050


No. That's not going to happen.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
No. That's not going to happen.
- bmeltzer

what wont happen? a long term deal?

Also you remember a goalie Jakub Kovar from the 2006 draft. Any backstory on why he never came over and gave it a go? Thanks.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Aug 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Frost, Fantasy Camp, Flyers Daily, TIFH
- bmeltzer


Will Frost continue in the top six role with power play time that he played from early December onward last season or does John Tortorella envision returning Frost to a bottom-six role with reduced power play time now that Sean Couturier is slated to return to play?

We all know the answer to this question

Coots and CA will garner top 6 minutes at the Frost's expense
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
Will Frost continue in the top six role with power play time that he played from early December onward last season or does John Tortorella envision returning Frost to a bottom-six role with reduced power play time now that Sean Couturier is slated to return to play?

We all know the answer to this question

Coots and CA will garner top 6 minutes at the Frost's expense

- corduroy


Atkinson is a winger, so at 5 on 5, that shouldn't affect Frost. There is plenty of ice time to go around. You need 3 scoring lines in today's game.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Aug 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
Atkinson is a winger, so at 5 on 5, that shouldn't affect Frost. There is plenty of ice time to go around. You need 3 scoring lines in today's game.
- MJL


I agree with that but does torts?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
I agree with that but does torts?
- corduroy


Tortorella is Tortorella. If Couturier is healthy and plays well, he will be the #1 center. We know he loves Cates and loves defensive players. So that leaves Frost with the rest. Still should be plenty of ice time to go around.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
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Aug 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Tortorella is Tortorella. If Couturier is healthy and plays well, he will be the #1 center. We know he loves Cates and loves defensive players. So that leaves Frost with the rest. Still should be plenty of ice time to go around.
- MJL

if ex selke doesn't play well. You think he still wont be the #1 center?
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
Will Frost continue in the top six role with power play time that he played from early December onward last season or does John Tortorella envision returning Frost to a bottom-six role with reduced power play time now that Sean Couturier is slated to return to play?

We all know the answer to this question

Coots and CA will garner top 6 minutes at the Frost's expense

- corduroy


My concern down the middle is if Couturier is viewed as the number 1 center out of the gate. This will be his first season without Giroux. Couturier was already a lacking skater. Two and half seasons missed and will be 31 in December. My next concern is also whether or not Frost is in the top 6. So our top two centers are Coots and Cates?

I also urge people in here to watch all 27 goals from Tippett this past season. Just one heck of a wrist shot from long range. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tippett plays the left side. A lot of his goals, especially on the power play came from over there. Konency is coming off a pretty special season for himself personally but we also know he’s not consistent. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tippett was leaned on more by Torts by season’s end ahead of of Konency.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 21 @ 11:25 AM ET
Just saw we signed Oliver Bonk. I’ll be looking forward to traveling over to London and checking out him and Denver Barkey this coming season.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
https://www.hockeylatest....d-calls-him-a-bust-267511
someone is jealous
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
My concern down the middle is if Couturier is viewed as the number 1 center out of the gate. This will be his first season without Giroux.


There was only one season in his entire career where Couturier played a lot with Giroux, and that was 17-18. In the three and a bit seasons after that Couturier spent the majority of his 5on5 minutes playing without Giroux.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
It's embarrassing for Briere that he apparently doesn't get to sign player contracts without having to defer to the opinions of a geriatric coach on his way out of the league, and a goofball color commentator masquerading as President of Hockey Ops.
SuperSchennBros
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Aug 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
There was only one season in his entire career where Couturier played a lot with Giroux, and that was 17-18. In the three and a bit seasons after that Couturier spent the majority of his 5on5 minutes playing without Giroux.
- Feanor

I mean his best seasons were with G
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Aug 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
Score pre season rankings, Flyers 31/32
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
Score pre season rankings, Flyers 31/32
- ClaudeFather

where do you see this
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 21 @ 1:39 PM ET
Score pre season rankings, Flyers 31/32
- ClaudeFather

I like those odds!






Lottery odds!!
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Aug 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
Let's play the line up game,

Tippett-Coots-TK
Farabee-Frost-Foerster
Laughton-Cates-Brink
Deslauriers-Poehling-Hathaway

extra-Allison,Laz if either don't get traded or sent down.
Sanheim-Risto
York-Attard
Seeler-Staal or Walker

extra, Zamula if he doesn't impress he gets waived and most likely picked up by another team.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Aug 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
https://www.hockeylatest.com/Former-Habs-scout-absolutely-rips-Matvei-Michkov-and-calls-him-a-bust-267511
someone is jealous

- 2Real



Not sure if this guy read his numbers, he's not big but he's quick and powerful and has a build like Ovie and scores at a pace similar. He's already well over 200lbs so sounds like he's a bit butthurt the Habs didn't pick him so he's trying to spin whatever reasoning he can to explain why the Habs didn't draft him.

Seems to me his time would better spent pumping up the reinbacher selection than trashing ours.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 21 @ 1:45 PM ET
It's embarrassing for Briere that he apparently doesn't get to sign player contracts without having to defer to the opinions of a geriatric coach on his way out of the league, and a goofball color commentator masquerading as President of Hockey Ops.
- Feanor


I would think all GM's consult coaches first before making any move. The hate for Torts is pathetic.

Is this MJL?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Aug 21 @ 1:51 PM ET
It's embarrassing for Briere that he apparently doesn't get to sign player contracts without having to defer to the opinions of a geriatric coach on his way out of the league, and a goofball color commentator masquerading as President of Hockey Ops.
- Feanor


Good point. You would like to believe or at least hope Frost has a longer future here than Torts.
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