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Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 27 @ 2:34 PM ET
Who? Definitely not fans on this message board
- SuperSchennBros


MJL seemed to realize Myers was iffy. If memory serves, his initial reaction to the trade was why were they getting him so cheap. That aged pretty well. Myers had potential just like everyone in the AHL. Few outside of Philly viewed him more than a borderline NHLer.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 27 @ 2:36 PM ET
any bedard level talent in the upcoming draft?
- 2Real

Bedard level? No, but there are 2, maybe 3 impact forwards and 2 or 3 Dmen with legit #1 potential.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 27 @ 2:38 PM ET
MJL seemed to realize Myers was iffy. If memory serves, his initial reaction to the trade was why were they getting him so cheap. That aged pretty well. Myers had potential just like everyone in the AHL. Few outside of Philly viewed him more than a borderline NHLer.
- Minnyhock

because ellis was damaged goods. He was a myers fan.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
Im sad sometimes because there are some in the fanbase who dont realize how good Couturier has been (when he plays). Its not just the points, its how he drags everyone who plays with him up a substantial level in their games.

When you make everyone around you noticeably better, that is a big sign you are a great player. And Coots is a GREAT hockey player.

Part of me is nervous because if Coots plays like he is capable of playing this season, the Flyers WILL be better. He almost hurts them by being himself lol.

- MBFlyerfan


For the record I love Couturier, he's my favorite Flyer by a wide margin. Got a 2017 Couturier Winter Classic jersey back before his offensive breakout when some fans were putting him in trade proposals. What's the best case for Couturier this season? To struggle long enough with rust to keep the team bad, but begin to regain form late in the season?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
because ellis was damaged goods. He was a myers fan.
- hello it's me 2050


I’d have been pulling for Myers if I was a Flyer fan. You always want prospects to surprise and do well. No one knew Ellis was damaged at the time. Many were saying the Preds got hosed. There had to be more to the story at the time and now everyone knows.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
I’d have been pulling for Myers if I was a Flyer fan. You always want prospects to surprise and do well. No one knew Ellis was damaged at the time. Many were saying the Preds got hosed. There had to be more to the story at the time and now everyone knows.
- Minnyhock

Cliff knew he was damaged.

I liked myers as well. Then it became clear he wasn't good. Just go back and re-read what AV said about him numerous times.

I like Zamula as well.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Sep 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
Bill, any word on whether Recchi being named an assistant coach with Columbus affects his Flyers HOF ceremony? Columbus is on a western road trip that week/weekend. Also, Columbus visits Philly on January 4th.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
Cliff knew he was damaged.

I liked myers as well. Then it became clear he wasn't good. Just go back and re-read what AV said about him numerous times.

I like Zamula as well.

- hello it's me 2050

I can see an argument against Myers his final season. I believe he was scratched a few times and demoted to the third pair next to Morin. Aside from that, Myers had a good 50 game season his second year, including playoffs.
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 27 @ 3:09 PM ET
MJL seemed to realize Myers was iffy. If memory serves, his initial reaction to the trade was why were they getting him so cheap. That aged pretty well. Myers had potential just like everyone in the AHL. Few outside of Philly viewed him more than a borderline NHLer.
- Minnyhock

“Iffy” is not outright saying this kid doesn’t have it and he’s going to be bad.
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Sep 27 @ 3:09 PM ET
I can see an argument against Myers his final season. I believe he was scratched a few times and demoted to the third pair next to Morin. Aside from that, Myers had a good 50 game season his second year, including playoffs.
- SuperSchennBros


Yes, he had a very good 19-20 season paired with Sanheim, and most thought that would be the Flyers' long term 2nd pairing at the time. The wheels came completely off in 20-21, and he stunk thereafter.
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 27 @ 3:13 PM ET
Yes, he had a very good 19-20 season paired with Sanheim, and most thought that would be the Flyers' long term 2nd pairing at the time. The wheels came completely off in 20-21, and he stunk thereafter.
- Quetzalcoatl

100%

This is exactly what I’m saying. At that point in time, I don’t think anyone was saying otherwise. It was only after the fact (meaning now) people are saying “I always knew he stunk”.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Sep 27 @ 3:17 PM ET
Ronnie Attard playing tonight. Its put up or shut up time for him. He's 24.
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
I’d have been pulling for Myers if I was a Flyer fan. You always want prospects to surprise and do well. No one knew Ellis was damaged at the time. Many were saying the Preds got hosed. There had to be more to the story at the time and now everyone knows.
- Minnyhock


Ellis was always a risk for injuries most of his career. I absolutely had my concerns in regards to Ellis’ health. In terms of what was going the other way, I don’t remember anyone knocking Myers in the trade. It was Patrick fans were dying to get rid of.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
Ellis was always a risk for injuries most of his career. I absolutely had my concerns in regards to Ellis’ health. In terms of what was going the other way, I don’t remember anyone knocking Myers in the trade. It was Patrick fans were dying to get rid of.
- SuperSchennBros

Myers was viewed as a nothing throw in and certain flyers fans thought the preds were going to fix him haha
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
Ronnie Attard playing tonight. Its put up or shut up time for him. He's 24.
- Flybynight88

Ginning also needs a strong showing
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 27 @ 3:30 PM ET
You stated that you knew Myers wasn’t any good during our last playoff run when…

A) Ghost couldn’t get a spot in the line up.
B) Niskanen’s play was night and day from what he established in the regular season.
C) Myers first ever playoff run taking a regular shift next to Sanheim on the second pair, where the Flyers managed to lose in the semi final, which included a seeding round.

If Myers was clearly bad in 2020, the coaching staff didn’t catch it.

- SuperSchennBros


not precisely. it is when i started to question his hockey iq.

if you remember the first round, they were lucky to win.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Bill, any word on whether Recchi being named an assistant coach with Columbus affects his Flyers HOF ceremony? Columbus is on a western road trip that week/weekend. Also, Columbus visits Philly on January 4th.
- Schmojo


He'll be there for the HOF game on the 26th and his induction on the 27th. He'll miss a flight out west and one game. Has permission from the Blue Jackets, as the commitment was already made before he was hired.

Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Half a season of hockey does not equate to someone being a good player forever
- ClaudeFather


lmao his argument is that we didn't question myers hockey IQ back then. what a joke. and guessing he wouldn't remember, it was mostly tomahawk that i had the conversations with.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 27 @ 3:31 PM ET
Good to see TK is back at full speed.

Atkinson not practicing again!
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Sep 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
100%

This is exactly what I’m saying. At that point in time, I don’t think anyone was saying otherwise. It was only after the fact (meaning now) people are saying “I always knew he stunk”.

- SuperSchennBros


Well, I guess my advice to you today, being daytime and sober, would be this:

Who cares?

People are bad enough in person, let alone on anonymous message boards. Took me far too long with far too much aggravation to realize this. This board in particular is pure toxic sludge most days.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
I can see an argument against Myers his final season. I believe he was scratched a few times and demoted to the third pair next to Morin. Aside from that, Myers had a good 50 game season his second year, including playoffs.
- SuperSchennBros



It’s a small sample size though. He didn’t have much pressure because Nisky and Provorov were so good that year.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Sep 27 @ 3:37 PM ET
Big game tonight. Dare I say the biggest?
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 27 @ 3:40 PM ET


It’s a small sample size though. He didn’t have much pressure because Nisky and Provorov were so good that year.

- Minnyhock


Can we please get off the Myers discussion. Why the F are we bringing it up? I was a big Myers fan and now he isn't even in the NHL. Let's move on to the current roster and prospects. A lot of people seem to be down on Attard, I am anxious to see if he shuts everyone up.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 27 @ 3:40 PM ET
100%

This is exactly what I’m saying. At that point in time, I don’t think anyone was saying otherwise. It was only after the fact (meaning now) people are saying “I always knew he stunk”.

- SuperSchennBros


say it all you want....you are wrong.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 27 @ 3:41 PM ET


It’s a small sample size though. He didn’t have much pressure because Nisky and Provorov were so good that year.

- Minnyhock


Well yeah, not much different from any young player trying to transition in the NHL but either you can hack it or you can’t. We know today that it hasn’t worked out but 4 goals, 12 assist, a plus 17 in 50 games on a second pair is a good season for a 22 year old rookie.
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