say it all you want....you are wrong.
- Peter Richards

Feel free to present advanced. If you were saying it on these boards, it has to be written down somewhere. I flat out don’t believe you. Myers was basically keep Ghost out of the line up in the playoffs.

Can we please get off the Myers discussion. Why the F are we bringing it up? I was a big Myers fan and now he isn't even in the NHL. Let's move on to the current roster and prospects. A lot of people seem to be down on Attard, I am anxious to see if he shuts everyone up.
- WhiskeyMan

Sorry. Attard won’t shut anyone up. I saw him enough at WM to know he’ll never learn to play defense.

Well, I guess my advice to you today, being daytime and sober, would be this:

Who cares?

People are bad enough in person, let alone on anonymous message boards. Took me far too long with far too much aggravation to realize this. This board in particular is pure toxic sludge most days.
- Quetzalcoatl

It’s just amazing to me what people choose to remember.

Sorry. Attard won’t shut anyone up. I saw him enough at WM to know he’ll never learn to play defense.
- Minnyhock

You from the Michigan area?

Sorry. Attard won’t shut anyone up. I saw him enough at WM to know he’ll never learn to play defense.
- Minnyhock

Just wanted to start another conversation and get off of Myers.

What prospect are we excited to see tonight?

Will Errson shut the Islanders down?

Well yeah, not much different from any young player trying to transition in the NHL but either you can hack it or you can’t. We know today that it hasn’t worked out but 4 goals, 12 assist, a plus 17 in 50 games on a second pair is a good season for a 22 year old rookie.
- SuperSchennBros

Exactly. Nisky is a good example of this. He had a great rookie season playing alongside Zubov. Zubov retired and Nisky was hot garbage for the next 3 years. He didn’t get fixed until he got to the Pens.

Just wanted to start another conversation and get off of Myers.

What prospect are we excited to see tonight?

Will Errson shut the Islanders down?
- WhiskeyMan

I’m super excited about Michkov coming to North America. Think I’ll watch more Flyer hockey then.

Sorry. Attard won’t shut anyone up. I saw him enough at WM to know he’ll never learn to play defense.
- Minnyhock

He wouldn’t be alone in that regard in the NHL. The real question is whether or not his offensive skills will translate well enough to the NHL for a team to overlook his defensive deficiencies.

Feel free to present advanced. If you were saying it on these boards, it has to be written down somewhere. I flat out don’t believe you. Myers was basically keep Ghost out of the line up in the playoffs.
- SuperSchennBros

yup, go find it. also pay attention to what was said as you are already getting the information incorrect.

Ronnie Attard playing tonight. Its put up or shut up time for him. He's 24.
- Flybynight88

Doesn't look like Ross Johnston is in the lineup tonight.... Attard will actually have to make the lineup thru merit this time around.

He wouldn’t be alone in that regard in the NHL. The real question is whether or not his offensive skills will translate well enough to the NHL for a team to overlook his defensive deficiencies.
- Quetzalcoatl

There’s a place for him in the NHL if he can resemble Erik Gustafsson.

Sorry. Attard won’t shut anyone up. I saw him enough at WM to know he’ll never learn to play defense.
- Minnyhock

Was never an Attard fan but at least it was a swing by the Flyers FO. God knows they've made far worse 3rd-round picks over the years.

Was never an Attard fan but at least it was a swing by the Flyers FO. God knows they've made far worse 3rd-round picks over the years.
- Tomahawk

Oh, come on. Tyrell Goulbourne was a swing. OK, maybe more of check swing. Ok, maybe more of a fouled bunt into a strikeout.

Oh, come on. Tyrell Goulbourne was a swing. OK, maybe more of check swing. Ok, maybe more of a fouled bunt into a strikeout.
- TobyFlenderson

Flyers took Garret Klotz instead of
Evgeny Dadonov
Alexander Killorn
Alec Martinez
Jamie Benn
Jake Muzzin
Carl Hagelin
Nick Bonino
Justin Braun

We even took Maroon in that draft and gave him away

yup, go find it. also pay attention to what was said as you are already getting the information incorrect.
- Peter Richards

Pay attention to something you supposedly said 3 years ago? I said in detail why I don’t believe you. This sort of response isn’t helping your case.

Was never an Attard fan but at least it was a swing by the Flyers FO. God knows they've made far worse 3rd-round picks over the years.
- Tomahawk

That shot. I saw him blast one by the goalie from just outside the blue line that the goalie never saw. Too bad it was offside.

Almost all of those players you’ve listed have lived up to expectations 😂
- ClaudeFather

Really? Cates, Farabee, Hart, York and Frost are not completely developed players. Provorov did not live up to the expectations of a top 10 pick. JVR did not live up the expectations of a 2nd overall pick.

Flyers took Garret Klotz instead of
Evgeny Dadonov
Alexander Killorn
Alec Martinez
Jamie Benn
Jake Muzzin
Carl Hagelin
Nick Bonino
Justin Braun

We even took Maroon in that draft and gave him away

- 2Real

You can have him back.

Provorov met expectations, he was never going to be a true #1, he was very solid when paired with a capable partner. Frost and Alison both lost significant time due to injury. Laughton had certainly met expectations, I’d say he’s exceeded them. Goalies are not great examples. And no one expected JVR to be a perennial all star, he has met expectations too, has had a nice career
- ClaudeFather

When you draft a defenseman 7th overall, the expectation is that he will be a #1 defenseman. All scouting reports and hype portrayed that.

You expect a player selected 2nd overall to be an all star.

Really? Cates, Farabee, Hart, York and Frost are not completely developed players. Provorov did not live up to the expectations of a top 10 pick. JVR did not live up the expectations of a 2nd overall pick.
- MJL

Fantasy land. Agreed the other guys have time to go. Provy and JVR certainly reached expectations. Just because you’re a #2 pick doesn’t mean you’re gonna to be an elite star. Just look at the list from the last ten years, there’s a ton of guys like him or worse. And at the draft it was well known there was a huge drop off after Kane

When you draft a defenseman 7th overall, the expectation is that he will be a #1 defenseman. All scouting reports and hype portrayed that.

You expect a player selected 2nd overall to be an all star.
- MJL

You can hope for a #1 Dman

Good post.

The problem though with simply reviewing stats instead of watching the games (The Athletic, not you) is that we DID see Couturier get some chances higher in the lineup at times due to injuries and poor play of the top lines and he just didn't do much with it. Now, did Hakstol sit on him at 3C/low PP usage maybe a season or so too long? Yes, probably.
- Quetzalcoatl

That's simply false. The Flyers had a stacked #1 PP unit for most of Couturier's early career with Giroux/Vroacek/Simmonds/Schenn. Couturier's PP time was mop up duty with late minutes on the PP. At 5 on 5, as a 3rd line center, tasked with matching up against a lot of top lines. He scored at a high rate at 5 on 5 based on minutes and deployment. His 5 on 5 scoring rate was 2nd line level. The signs were there the entire time that if deployed differently. He could produce more points. Which turned out to be correct.

Really? Cates, Farabee, Hart, York and Frost are not completely developed players. Provorov did not live up to the expectations of a top 10 pick. JVR did not live up the expectations of a 2nd overall pick.
- MJL

not a fact, you hope that is the case.

certain flyers fans thought the preds were going to fix him haha
- ClaudeFather

That's incorrect.

That's incorrect.
- MJL

It’s 100% a fact. Please someone post the trade thread