Luv how people are overreacting.

The islanders had a few more vets playing tonight, juat some scrubs like horvat and barzal. They also had a poopty goalie in net as well.

Flyers had their 4th line, laughts and cates. They also have their 13th forward playing tonight, Allison.

I will reserve judgment until the flyers start most of the starters.
- WhiskeyMan

Who else do they have besides Couts, Sanheim and Hart?
Why does it matter who chips and chases when your offensive strategy revolves around giving away possession and then hoping to get it back with the effort of slow, moderately skilled players?
I’d take a puck to the face if it would guarantee me a high paying job for life. Ian Laperiere was never a Flyer. He is a wannabe Penguin who was cast aside by Pittsburgh before he could sink them.
Comcast needs to sell this team. How can you trust a cable company who owns a sports team to run it properly when they don’t even broadcast the games on the service they sell? Why own it if your not going to use it as a source for content every chance you can?
Comcast is an awful company.
The Flyers are a misguided organization.
John Tortorella is an outdated coach.
The players are ill equipped for the current NHL
And Gary Bettman is a moron who has tricked people into thinking being booed is a badge of honor instead of a complaint of his leadership.
I’d rather watch rec league at the lake houses than what has become of the NHL

Difficult to play against? Lol.

Connor McDavid is difficult to play against. Cale Makar is difficult to play against. Vasilevskiy is difficult to play against.

Meanwhile everybody licks their chops when Marc Staal, ND and Ryan Poehling hit the ice.

Flyers will never stop deluding themselves and their troglodyte fanbase, no matter which era of orange it is.
- Tomahawk

Jonesy is the carnival barker at the circus trying to get people to pay to see the bearded lady, etc.

"Come see Nic Deslauriers create space for the young players! Be astounded and amazed! Only 50 cents a person!"

Who else do they have besides Couts, Sanheim and Hart?
Why does it matter who chips and chases when your offensive strategy revolves around giving away possession and then hoping to get it back with the effort of slow, moderately skilled players?
I’d take a puck to the face if it would guarantee me a high paying job for life. Ian Laperiere was never a Flyer. He is a wannabe Penguin who was cast aside by Pittsburgh before he could sink them.
Comcast needs to sell this team. How can you trust a cable company who owns a sports team to run it properly when they don’t even broadcast the games on the service they sell? Why own it if your not going to use it as a source for content every chance you can?
Comcast is an awful company.
The Flyers are a misguided organization.
John Tortorella is an outdated coach.
The players are ill equipped for the current NHL
And Gary Bettman is a moron who has tricked people into thinking being booed is a badge of honor instead of a complaint of his leadership.
I’d rather watch rec league at the lake houses than what has become of the NHL
- Shrike

You can't just stick guys together with little practice and expect everyone to be on the same page. I expect some hiccups when Coots and Cam play with the rest of the starters. Most of them have not played with either.

Who else do they have besides Couts, Sanheim and Hart?
Forwards who might contribute just a little bit
Farabee
maybe Forester
Frost
Atkinson
TK
Tippet

D who might contribute just a little bit
York
Stall

D who are jusy okay
RR
Seeler
Walker

You can't just stick guys together with little practice and expect everyone to be on the same page. I expect some hiccups when Coots and Cam play with the rest of the starters. Most of them have not played with either.

Who else do they have besides Couts, Sanheim and Hart?
Forwards who might contribute just a little bit
Farabee
maybe Forester
Frost
Atkinson
TK
Tippet

D who might contribute just a little bit
York
Stall

D who are jusy okay
RR
Seeler
Walker
- WhiskeyMan

for offense i think walker may contribute s little more than Staal. Staal has never lit it up or had a lot of points, but it will be close. but wouldn't expect walker to light it up either gonna be hard to score when your just playing defense most of the game.

guessing in order; york, sanhiem, risto, walker, staal and seeler (staal and seeler may flip but would imagine around 15 points)

Jonesy is the carnival barker at the circus trying to get people to pay to see the bearded lady, etc.

"Come see Nic Deslauriers create space for the young players! Be astounded and amazed! Only 50 cents a person!"
- Flyers_01

😆

Myers was a rookie. Ghost barely played. Who kept Ghost out? Just Braun?
- SuperSchennBros

Ghost kept ghost out. Add in the fact AV didn't like him much didn't help.

It had nothing to do with Myers.

Difficult to play against? Lol.

Connor McDavid is difficult to play against. Cale Makar is difficult to play against. Vasilevskiy is difficult to play against.

Meanwhile everybody licks their chops when Marc Staal, ND and Ryan Poehling hit the ice.

Flyers will never stop deluding themselves and their troglodyte fanbase, no matter which era of orange it is.
- Tomahawk

What do you mean? We have Ristolainen! After an opponent scores a goal, or gets multiple scoring chances at the net, Ristolainen will arrive in ill-humor and make that player pay a price. The opponent will skate to the bench unwilling to score that goal or get those scoring chances again. Keith Jones will glow at the price that was paid and how tough the Flyers are to play against.

I feel sorry for Briere. Sandwiched between an obsolete aging coach and a used car salesman for team president stuck on old cliches and sales pitches. That comment from Jones is far more concerning and scary than anything that happened in the first two pre-season games. Jones apparently has no clue what hard to play against means in today's NHL.

What do you mean? We have Ristolainen! After an opponent scores a goal, or gets multiple scoring chances at the net, Ristolainen will arrive in ill-humor and make that player pay a price. The opponent will skate to the bench unwilling to score that goal or get those scoring chances again. Keith Jones will glow at the price that was paid and how tough the Flyers are to play against.

I feel sorry for Briere. Sandwiched between an obsolete aging coach and a used car salesman for team president stuck on old cliches and sales pitches. That comment from Jones is far more concerning and scary than anything that happened in the first two pre-season games. Jones apparently has no clue what hard to play against means in today's NHL.
- MJL

I don't at all. He willingly took the job knowing how it would end up. If he has any balls he would have said no unless I can have control and final say.

https://phillyhockeynow.c...ric-lindros-nhl-playoffs/

There’s no Lindros on the Flyers now, but Jones wants the Flyers to play hard-nosed hockey, the kind that is appreciated in Philadelphia.

“Even when the Flyers were starting to build back around Lindros, it was always a difficult team to play against,” Jones said.

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The "difficult to play against" phrase has been used so often it has lost all meaning, almost as much as "200 ft player". I feel it is used as a last resort because the Flyers as a team has little redeeming value. Does he want a fast team, a great transition team, an innovative team coached by an innovative coach?

Apparently, the answer to all of the above is NO. If he did he'd talk about those attributes. Instead he loves to talk about 90's hockey and the Lindros era.

Well much like the 70s bullies, the 90s aren't coming back either. You know who was "difficult to play against" in that era? The dead puck era. The Devils. Scott Stevens actively looking for players with their heads down to lay them out. One of the "hardest to play against" players of the era responsible for who knows how many injuries.

The NHL changed the rules for player safety and goal scoring since that time so the era that Jonesy longs for will never come back.

The Flyers just aren't going to out grind out a 100 point season without talent and coaching no matter how much Jonesy keeps repeating it.
- Flyers_01

The scary part is and Jones may be trying to play into this. Is that there is a large segment of the Flyers fanbase that will buy into that nonsense.

Who else do they have besides Couts, Sanheim and Hart?
Why does it matter who chips and chases when your offensive strategy revolves around giving away possession and then hoping to get it back with the effort of slow, moderately skilled players?
I’d take a puck to the face if it would guarantee me a high paying job for life. Ian Laperiere was never a Flyer. He is a wannabe Penguin who was cast aside by Pittsburgh before he could sink them.
Comcast needs to sell this team. How can you trust a cable company who owns a sports team to run it properly when they don’t even broadcast the games on the service they sell? Why own it if your not going to use it as a source for content every chance you can?
Comcast is an awful company.
The Flyers are a misguided organization.
John Tortorella is an outdated coach.
The players are ill equipped for the current NHL
And Gary Bettman is a moron who has tricked people into thinking being booed is a badge of honor instead of a complaint of his leadership.
I’d rather watch rec league at the lake houses than what has become of the NHL
- Shrike

Those 3 guys you mentioned are nothing haha. A career below average goalie, a center signed long term coming off multiple back surgeries, and a middle pair Dman signed for too long for too much 😂 they couldn’t give him away

To Ottawa: Oliver Bonk and (cap relief)
To Philly: Mathieu Joseph, Brannstrom and the proverbial second.

no, not an overpay in fact Flyer fans would probably say no. Sens get cap relief. Room for Pinto. And the Bonk's still live in Ottawa so that works into typical Ottawa narrative of keeping things close to home with fathers and sons.

To Ottawa: Oliver Bonk and (cap relief)
To Philly: Mathieu Joseph, Brannstrom and the proverbial second.

no, not an overpay in fact Flyer fans would probably say no. Sens get cap relief. Room for Pinto. And the Bonk's still live in Ottawa so that works into typical Ottawa narrative of keeping things close to home with fathers and sons.
- Octavarium

Horrible trade for the flyers, Brannstrom is at a bit of a crossroads, I’d rather just keep Bonk

Fair enough. Just throwing it out there. You had two scouts at the Habs Sens game last night apparently. And considering the Sens were icing their "C-Crew" and both Brannstrom and Joseph were in the line up....something might be up.

Frost's name keeps getting mentioned. I'd rather have Bonk.

Fair enough. Just throwing it out there. You had two scouts at the Habs Sens game last night apparently. And considering the Sens were icing their "C-Crew" and both Brannstrom and Joseph were in the line up....something might be up.

Frost's name keeps getting mentioned. I'd rather have Bonk.
- Octavarium

I’d take Brannstrom as the payment for taking Joseph and send back a mid round pick. Unfortunately for him there doesn’t seem to be an opening for a prominent role or PP time with how they view Sanderson, add in chabot and Chycryun. Writing is on the wall. Flyers are in the driver seat here, we’d be helping Ottawa

Jonesy is the carnival barker at the circus trying to get people to pay to see the bearded lady, etc.

"Come see Nic Deslauriers create space for the young players! Be astounded and amazed! Only 50 cents a person!"
- Flyers_01

What year is it?

Ghost kept ghost out. Add in the fact AV didn't like him much didn't help.

It had nothing to do with Myers.
- hello it's me 2050

But it was suggested that Myers was so bad in the playoffs, it was easy to figure out he wasn’t going to be good, after a decent regular season. If Myers was that bad, he wouldn’t have seen all 16 games. He most certainly wouldn’t have held steady on the second pair. Better players kept Ghost out, including Myers.

Difficult to play against? Lol.

Connor McDavid is difficult to play against. Cale Makar is difficult to play against. Vasilevskiy is difficult to play against.

Meanwhile everybody licks their chops when Marc Staal, ND and Ryan Poehling hit the ice.

Flyers will never stop deluding themselves and their troglodyte fanbase, no matter which era of orange it is.
- Tomahawk

Of course the Lindros era Flyers were tough to play against. They had the best line in the league. They also had great center depth and legit top pair of defenders. Flyers have zero of those things right now.

I don't at all. He willingly took the job knowing how it would end up. If he has any balls he would have said no unless I can have control and final say.
- hello it's me 2050

There's ample evidence, despite how some people feel about Briere, that the main qualification to become GM was being an ex-flyer, a popular one at that. Not his acumen at roster building or managing players. Much like Fletcher, he knows the right people.

Briere was a fan favorite, like Jones, Lappy, etc. He really should've gotten some experience outside of the Comcast umbrella before being considered.

Of course the Lindros era Flyers were tough to play against. They had the best line in the league. They also had great center depth and legit top pair of defenders. Flyers have zero of those things right now.
- mickel25

The flyers right now have literally nothing. TK, a solid winger, that’s it. After that, it’s all spare parts

There's ample evidence, despite how some people feel about Briere, that the main qualification to become GM was being an ex-flyer, a popular one at that. Not his acumen at roster building or managing players. Much like Fletcher, he knows the right people.

Briere was a fan favorite, like Jones, Lappy, etc. He really should've gotten some experience outside of the Comcast umbrella before being considered.
- Flyers_01

What’s the issue with Briere now? We wanted this team to be bad right? He didn’t do anything to make them good and he’s taken steps towards acquiring assets

Of course the Lindros era Flyers were tough to play against. They had the best line in the league. They also had great center depth and legit top pair of defenders. Flyers have zero of those things right now.
- mickel25

Exactly! I have no idea what planet Jonesy is coming from with that comment. We had season tickets back then and those teams were dynamic! Scary stuff from him! Eh what?

But it was suggested that Myers was so bad in the playoffs, it was easy to figure out he wasn’t going to be good, after a decent regular season. If Myers was that bad, he wouldn’t have seen all 16 games. He most certainly wouldn’t have held steady on the second pair. Better players kept Ghost out, including Myers.
- SuperSchennBros

lmao. no this is the spin you are putting on it. it was the playoffs when you could see he didn't have good defensive reads, questioning his hockey IQ. when he started to be elevated and not as sheltered he started to struggle.

But it was suggested that Myers was so bad in the playoffs, it was easy to figure out he wasn’t going to be good, after a decent regular season. If Myers was that bad, he wouldn’t have seen all 16 games. He most certainly wouldn’t have held steady on the second pair. Better players kept Ghost out, including Myers.
- SuperSchennBros

Myers had nothing to do with Ghost and his playing time. It is that simple. You dont want to accept it, no problem. Hell even your bff will tell you the same.

Myers had nothing to do with Ghost and his playing time. It is that simple. You dont want to accept it, no problem. Hell even your bff will tell you the same.
- hello it's me 2050

So if one defenseman gets hurt, the Flyers would just go with five defensemen despite Ghost? Anyone who played in the top six had a hand in keeping Ghost out. It’s simple. If Ghost played bad, it means the other defensemen were playing better. Including an experienced rookie who could be pulled at anytime.

Exactly! I have no idea what planet Jonesy is coming from with that comment. We had season tickets back then and those teams were dynamic! Scary stuff from him! Eh what?
- Phillywhiteout

He is in a lose-lose situation right now. He is not going to clown his own team. He is also not going to say nothing. To me words are just that. If they truly do value the future and play some more of the younger guys this year I will be fine with whatever words he uses.

I am not convinced that will happen though. In fact, I will be surprised if it does happen. I am 100% in show me mode.