Why the heck is Belpedio in the lineup?? We know what he is! This is not his first, or even his second training camp. He is 27 years old, he is what he is. Why waste this opportunity to see a kid you are still trying to learn about??
- jd250

Because the idea that there are actually jobs open and true competition for spots is a mirage?

https://dailyhive.com/van...hile-coaching-the-canucks

3. Not practicing anything
Forget practicing shootouts, Torts had a problem with practice, period.

Gary Mason recounts:

“The players were unhappy about the amount of practice Tortorella was conducting. To put it a different way – players didn’t think they were practicing enough and that Tortorella took practice seriously enough…

Tortorella has different views about a whole bunch of things, about practicing the power play.

One of the things he did that really struck people as odd – he didn’t look at videotape of the team he was going to be facing.

There are coaches we know that coached in Vancouver that didn’t believe in coaching the power play. Mike Keenan was one of them.”
- Flyers_01

I'm sure when he gets fired here we'll hear similar stories.

For 34 games...
- MBFlyerfan

Flyers cap and asset management at its best.

I'm sure when he gets fired here we'll hear similar stories.
- Tomahawk

Can't come soon enough.

For 34 games...
- MBFlyerfan

and?

Flyers cap and asset management at its best.
- Tomahawk

what do you think you have to give up for a very good top 4 dman?

and?
- hello it's me 2050

So they gave him away for basically nothing.

what do you think you have to give up for a very good top 4 dman?
- hello it's me 2050

According to the feltchers app, just Nolan Patrick

I'm sure when he gets fired here we'll hear similar stories.
- Tomahawk

My feeling on torts? He’s not long for this job and db probably wanted him gone. Ownership said can we make it work for a bit? We’re already paying AV for a while at 5 and now if we’re paying 10 mil for two coaches that aren’t working here plus the new guy, it’s a lot. And in a money ball kond of way, the owner said politely, is there anything else I can do to help you Danny?

what do you think you have to give up for a very good top 4 dman?
- hello it's me 2050

Nashville got him from us for a 3rd, so...

(Markov was a decent #4, nothing more)

yes, rocky behind the bench.
- Peter Richards

Adrian! Adrian! Sobbing, grunting, Adrian!

I'm sure when he gets fired here we'll hear similar stories.
- Tomahawk

6. Communicating with anyone
Consistency is one thing people always want from players, coaches, bowel movements… anything in life really.

Tortorella’s communication was certainly consistent.

Here’s Gary Mason talking about Torts’ relationship with Vancouver’s farm team:

“Another thing that has come out just recently is his association with Travis Green, the coach in Utica… You would think that the lines of communication between those two would be constant and always open. That they’d be communicating about who’s playing well, and this is what we’re doing up here. A farm team should be a mirror image of whatever system the big club is playing.

John Tortorella did not have one single conversation with Travis Green all season. Not one.”

See? He consistently didn’t care.

This one bothers me. As he constantly says "I dont know anything about him" when asked about prospects and younger players on the Phantoms.

I gotta give credit to zamula. It says that he put on 20 pounds of mass in the off season and that's a lot.
I hope that helps him find him game and helps him handle the rigors of the NHL

So they gave him away for basically nothing.
- MBFlyerfan

no they didnt.

You can rip on the flyers for many things. That trade isnt one of them.

Nashville got him from us for a 3rd, so...

(Markov was a decent #4, nothing more)
- Tomahawk

no he was better than a decent 4. You make that trade every time when you were in the positon the flyers where at the time.

Does the timing of a trade change the value of trades? When teams know your in a bad spot does that change the value?

people crack me up.

Bill Meltzer: Preseason Gameday: 9/29/23 @ BOS
- bmeltzer

They’re gonna destroy us.

I hope it doesn’t happen but we’ve all heard the rumours of hart tk sanheim being moved.
- Hextall271

TK has been good here, and Sanheim isn’t going to be much better anywhere else, he is what he is.

This one bothers me. As he constantly says "I dont know anything about him" when asked about prospects and younger players on the Phantoms.
- MBFlyerfan

they dont even play the same system in LHV. You would think the GM and President would address this, nah.

Torts is all ego. I hope they give him an ext.

They’re gonna destroy us.
- SuperSchennBros

Frost is in the lineup, how could we lose

They’re gonna destroy us.
- SuperSchennBros

Oh we’ve established this as fact. As they always do. Ulmark will probably score on Peterson when he’s in the net. That was a great pickup at 5 mil. Holy f.

They’re gonna destroy us.
- SuperSchennBros

https://www.lyrics.com/ly...Jerks/I+Wanna+Destroy+You

TK has been good here, and Sanheim isn’t going to be much better anywhere else, he is what he is.
- ClaudeFather

It’s obviously speculation but at least for tk and hart I think they could be a lot better with better surroundings. Not exactly sure on the ceiling. Do you think hart would do ok in Edmonton for example? I think ina couple years he could put them over the top. Maybe they need one more dman.

I gotta give credit to zamula. It says that he put on 20 pounds of mass in the off season and that's a lot.
I hope that helps him find him game and helps him handle the rigors of the NHL
- Bob Habib

Yes. Interested to see how he has progressed.

no they didnt.

You can rip on the flyers for many things. That trade isnt one of them.
- hello it's me 2050

Ok, agree to disagree. It WOULD have been a good trade had they won or even kept him for a few seasons.

But we can differ on what a good return should be. I feel like getting 34 games out of a player for Justin Williams is not a good return.

Ok, agree to disagree. It WOULD have been a good trade had they won or even kept him for a few seasons.

But we can differ on what a good return should be. I feel like getting 34 games out of a player for Justin Williams is not a good return.
- MBFlyerfan

In retrospect because of what Williams wound go on to an accomplish, it wasn’t worth it imo.