Hesh_
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wcorvette
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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major league right there - 2Real
Clutch, great D |
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- THE BLACK HAND
One of the greatest images in Philly sports history! |
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OMG TREA - 2Real
I like to call him TMFT! So great seeing how he found his groove.
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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30% chance to win that game boys |
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The Flyers definitely put a gauntlet in front of Allison with the signing of Hathaway, the preseason usage of 4th line minutes with mostly prospects, the return of Atkinson, and overall organizational depth at RW. I still don’t understand what waiving him does for the roster. Who exactly is the 13th forward this season? Maybe they are getting another Brown type of waivers? They don’t have an obvious option. Maybe they just rely on recalls and sit kids in the press box all year? Nothing says rebuild like that, right!
Nothing against giving it a go with Poehling because he is younger and brings a speed element that the Flyers needed, but why does it seem like the Flyers don’t have any interest in developing role players? They don’t give kids enough opportunity to establish as 4th line NHL forwards. They get boxed out with free agent signings that are twice as big of a cap hit. The last guy to actually develop was Laughton, and he has a higher ceiling as a bottom 6 guy. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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lol kershaw already roughed up |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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The Flyers definitely put a gauntlet in front of Allison with the signing of Hathaway, the preseason usage of 4th line minutes with mostly prospects, the return of Atkinson, and overall organizational depth at RW. I still don’t understand what waiving him does for the roster. Who exactly is the 13th forward this season? Maybe they are getting another Brown type of waivers? They don’t have an obvious option. Maybe they just rely on recalls and sit kids in the press box all year? Nothing says rebuild like that, right!
Nothing against giving it a go with Poehling because he is younger and brings a speed element that the Flyers needed, but why does it seem like the Flyers don’t have any interest in developing role players? They don’t give kids enough opportunity to establish as 4th line NHL forwards. They get boxed out with free agent signings that are twice as big of a cap hit. The last guy to actually develop was Laughton, and he has a higher ceiling as a bottom 6 guy. - NC Flyers Fan
Laughton? |
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Laughton? - 2Real
Would you be more specific please |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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- THE BLACK HAND
Let's go Stros!!!
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SGTrader
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Joined: 07.06.2013
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Matvei Michkov's team lost 10-1...he still mnanaged one assist. The Tandem of Tyanulin and Michkov looks really good. |
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Matvei Michkov's team lost 10-1...he still mnanaged one assist. The Tandem of Tyanulin and Michkov looks really good. - SGTrader
Michkov couldn’t put a more positive spin on a loss like that. Along that vein, he was only a -1.
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Boynton Beach, FL Joined: 10.03.2010
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The Flyers definitely put a gauntlet in front of Allison with the signing of Hathaway, the preseason usage of 4th line minutes with mostly prospects, the return of Atkinson, and overall organizational depth at RW. I still don’t understand what waiving him does for the roster. Who exactly is the 13th forward this season? Maybe they are getting another Brown type of waivers? They don’t have an obvious option. Maybe they just rely on recalls and sit kids in the press box all year? Nothing says rebuild like that, right!
Nothing against giving it a go with Poehling because he is younger and brings a speed element that the Flyers needed, but why does it seem like the Flyers don’t have any interest in developing role players? They don’t give kids enough opportunity to establish as 4th line NHL forwards. They get boxed out with free agent signings that are twice as big of a cap hit. The last guy to actually develop was Laughton, and he has a higher ceiling as a bottom 6 guy. - NC Flyers Fan
Think you provided the only explanation that makes sense on Allison, he really is not that important to the timeline. How old will be when they will contend, will he be aged out and replaced by them anyway?
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The Flyers definitely put a gauntlet in front of Allison with the signing of Hathaway, the preseason usage of 4th line minutes with mostly prospects, the return of Atkinson, and overall organizational depth at RW. I still don’t understand what waiving him does for the roster. Who exactly is the 13th forward this season? Maybe they are getting another Brown type of waivers? They don’t have an obvious option. Maybe they just rely on recalls and sit kids in the press box all year? Nothing says rebuild like that, right!
Nothing against giving it a go with Poehling because he is younger and brings a speed element that the Flyers needed, but why does it seem like the Flyers don’t have any interest in developing role players? They don’t give kids enough opportunity to establish as 4th line NHL forwards. They get boxed out with free agent signings that are twice as big of a cap hit. The last guy to actually develop was Laughton, and he has a higher ceiling as a bottom 6 guy. - NC Flyers Fan
Most old school coaches aren’t adept at managing belief and failure in young players. A good coach can instill a player to believe in himself by showing the player that he believes in him. Old schoolers forget that young players failing leads to success. If young players are not failing some then they’re too comfortable or not trying hard enough to be innovative in their game or just scared to make mistakes.Failure leads to growth and progress. Coaches like Torts,Hitch and Boudreau are more comfortable with veterans who have failed forever that they know with no growth potential than they are with prospects with upside but whose failure they have low tolerance.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The Flyers definitely put a gauntlet in front of Allison with the signing of Hathaway, the preseason usage of 4th line minutes with mostly prospects, the return of Atkinson, and overall organizational depth at RW. I still don’t understand what waiving him does for the roster. Who exactly is the 13th forward this season? Maybe they are getting another Brown type of waivers? They don’t have an obvious option. Maybe they just rely on recalls and sit kids in the press box all year? Nothing says rebuild like that, right!
- NC Flyers Fan
If Brink and Foerster both make the team, they have 13 forwards. The question is who sits if both are in the lineup.
Nothing against giving it a go with Poehling because he is younger and brings a speed element that the Flyers needed, but why does it seem like the Flyers don’t have any interest in developing role players? They don’t give kids enough opportunity to establish as 4th line NHL forwards. They get boxed out with free agent signings that are twice as big of a cap hit. The last guy to actually develop was Laughton, and he has a higher ceiling as a bottom 6 guy. - NC Flyers Fan
I agree although I don't know if Laughton is a good example. He was a first round pick.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Think you provided the only explanation that makes sense on Allison, he really is not that important to the timeline. How old will be when they will contend, will he be aged out and replaced by them anyway? - wcorvette
How old will Deslauriers and Hathaway be?
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Most old school coaches aren’t adept at managing belief and failure in young players. A good coach can instill a player to believe in himself by showing the player that he believes in him. Old schoolers forget that young players failing leads to success. If young players are not failing some then they’re too comfortable or not trying hard enough to be innovative in their game or just scared to make mistakes.Failure leads to growth and progress. Coaches like Torts,Hitch and Boudreau are more comfortable with veterans who have failed forever that they know with no growth potential than they are with prospects with upside but whose failure they have low tolerance. - Minnyhock
Well said. That's why this talked about rotation with Brink and Foerster worries me. Tortorella's lack of patience and quick hook could result in neither player being able to get in a groove. Have to let young player fail and work through issues in their game. That requires consistent ice time. |
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Think you provided the only explanation that makes sense on Allison, he really is not that important to the timeline. How old will be when they will contend, will he be aged out and replaced by them anyway? - wcorvette
or he was never really part of the equation to begin with, as was always on the outside looking in imo. |
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Well said. That's why this talked about rotation with Brink and Foerster worries me. Tortorella's lack of patience and quick hook could result in neither player being able to get in a groove. Have to let young player fail and work through issues in their game. That requires consistent ice time. - MJL
It is clear to me that one of brink or forest will be sent down at some point within the 1st 15 games imo. A rotation is flat out dumb.
The coach/co-gm1 will not sit his pet ND. This is the silly archaic 4th line he creams his pants about.
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or he was never really part of the equation to begin with, as was always on the outside looking in imo. - hello it's me 2050
Both can be true. ^This is definitely true based on the timeline we saw.
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Well said. That's why this talked about rotation with Brink and Foerster worries me. Tortorella's lack of patience and quick hook could result in neither player being able to get in a groove. Have to let young player fail and work through issues in their game. That requires consistent ice time. - MJL
Rotating young prospects as the 13th forward is dumb for certain when they have top 6 potential.
Isn’t this what folks were making fun of Michkov’s SKA coach for doing?
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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It is clear to me that one of brink or forest will be sent down at some point within the 1st 15 games imo. A rotation is flat out dumb.
The coach/co-gm1 will not sit his pet ND. This is the silly archaic 4th line he creams his pants about. - hello it's me 2050
I’m hoping they find away to move out a player to make room for both….but I might be waiting a while. I agree both guys need to play in the top 9. I don’t quite see the 4th line as an issue. I frankly don’t want to see the kids with offensive ability playing with ND and Hathaway. This is where BB can earn his stripes. If the kids have earned their spot then others need to be moved out. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Rotating young prospects as the 13th forward is dumb for certain when they have top 6 potential.
Isn’t this what folks were making fun of Michkov’s SKA coach for doing? - NC Flyers Fan
It’s just as dumb there as it would be here. |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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Michkov couldn’t put a more positive spin on a loss like that. Along that vein, he was only a -1. - Minnyhock
Their goalie looked worse than my Sunday night beer league goalie. I started watching at 4-1…he was beyond brutal. |
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I agree although I don't know if Laughton is a good example. He was a first round pick. - MJL
Maybe not, but if I don’t count him, I am not sure what example there is for the last 25 years.
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