Ben Shelley: Islanders announce 23-man roster

I keep seeing articles about how the Islanders should go after Shane Pinto. Outside of being a young NHL player. His numbers do not jump out at me.

What am I missing? Can someone enlighten me as what the draw would be here?

I keep seeing articles about how the Islanders should go after Shane Pinto. Outside of being a young NHL player. His numbers do not jump out at me.

What am I missing? Can someone enlighten me as what the draw would be here?
- Nfdbulldawg

20 goals and 35 pts is pretty good for a young kid with only 17 games of NHL experience prior to last season. He may not be a future superstar but he could probably be a good second line player. The Isles are not ripe with talented young players.

Irrelevant though, because they don't have the assets to acquire him or the cap space to fit him. Unless they're sending back probably around $5M-ish in salary to Ottawa in the deal. It's not happening, I think a large part of the reason people are talking about it is because he is from LI.

Jake Muzzin retires...

Don't the Leaf's loose his LTIR status for cap relief? Or did the Leaf's find another loop hole in the system. I am not to clear on this.

20 goals and 35 pts is pretty good for a young kid with only 17 games of NHL experience prior to last season. He may not be a future superstar but he could probably be a good second line player. The Isles are not ripe with talented young players.

Irrelevant though, because they don't have the assets to acquire him or the cap space to fit him. Unless they're sending back probably around $5M-ish in salary to Ottawa in the deal. It's not happening, I think a large part of the reason people are talking about it is because he is from LI.
- eichiefs9

Thank you I appreciate the clarification.

Jake Muzzin retires...

Don't the Leaf's loose his LTIR status for cap relief? Or did the Leaf's find another loop hole in the system. I am not to clear on this.
- Nfdbulldawg

If contract was signed before he turns 35 then there is no penalty I believe

But does make you question why retire when you would get that money being in LTIR unless it's under the table

Thank you I appreciate the clarification.
- Nfdbulldawg

He's probably somewhat comparable to Beauvillier, in terms of what his value is/could be to a team.

If contract was signed before he turns 35 then there is no penalty I believe

But does make you question why retire when you would get that money being in LTIR unless it's under the table
- dmarsden2988

Did he actually formally "retire" or did he just effectively say he's never going to play again? If it's the latter, and I suspect it is, he'll get his money and the Leafs can stash him on LTIR. I have a hard time believing he's just going to pass up on $4M to take a scouting job making less than 10% of that.

Did he actually formally "retire" or did he just effectively say he's never going to play again? If it's the latter, and I suspect it is, he'll get his money and the Leafs can stash him on LTIR. I have a hard time believing he's just going to pass up on $4M to take a scouting job making less than 10% of that.
- eichiefs9

Well he’s now a scout for the Leafs so they are probably paying him north of 4 million to get him to agree to get his salary off the books. Bastards.

Well he’s now a scout for the Leafs so they are probably paying him north of 4 million to do that to get his salary off the books. Bastards.
- Cptmjl

I'm not so sure they wouldn't rather pay it to him and keep him on the books so they can use his LTIR relief honestly

I'm not so sure they wouldn't rather pay it to him and keep him on the books so they can use his LTIR relief honestly
- eichiefs9

Yeah I guess that may have been an option unless he may have been capable of playing at some point and they didn’t want to deal with that? 🤷‍♂️

I know players continue their careers with their clubs in some capacity sometimes but it seems fishy. Or maybe it’s not and it’s the conspiracy theorist in me. I have no (frank)ing idea.

Yeah I guess that may have been an option unless he may have been capable of playing at some point and they didn’t want to deal with that? 🤷‍♂️

I know players continue their careers with their clubs in some capacity sometimes but it seems fishy. Or maybe it’s not and it’s the conspiracy theorist in me. I have no (frank)ing idea.
- Cptmjl

While I don't think there's rampant misuse of LTIR, I have to imagine that concussions would probably be the easiest to milk. No matter what a CT and/or whatever other tests they run say you can pretty much always say "well I'm still suffering from the effects". It'd be a pretty bad look for the league to force teams to kinda push guys to play.

Could also just be Toronto offering a guy whose playing days are over a chance to stay in hockey and climb the ladder organizationally.

While I don't think there's rampant misuse of LTIR, I have to imagine that concussions would probably be the easiest to milk. No matter what a CT and/or whatever other tests they run say you can pretty much always say "well I'm still suffering from the effects". It'd be a pretty bad look for the league to force teams to kinda push guys to play.

Could also just be Toronto offering a guy whose playing days are over a chance to stay in hockey and climb the ladder organizationally.
- eichiefs9

That’s most likely what it is.

There was a bit of sarcasm in both of my posts with a pinch of I don’t trust anyone especially the Leafs.

The Boss claimed by Anaheim

The Boss claimed by Anaheim
- eichiefs9

Bye Ross!


XxNYIxX

The Boss claimed by Anaheim
- eichiefs9

I didn't think anyone would claim him.

I didn't think anyone would claim him.
- JimmyP

Glad someone did though

Glad someone did though
- eichiefs9

Even I lost interest in him once he started losing his fights........like all of them.

Even I lost interest in him once he started losing his fights........like all of them.
- JohnScammo

Yeah I can't recall a single time I ever saw him take a clear-cut victory in the last few seasons. He's like the Scott Mayfield of forwards.

The Boss claimed by Anaheim
- eichiefs9

I really think Lou believed he could make another Tom Wilson out of him.

Even I lost interest in him once he started losing his fights........like all of them.
- JohnScammo

Yeah he turned out to be a disappointment in the end. We got duped early on when he was pummeling little guys lol. Once he started going with fellow heavies it was a different story and not in a good way. Never the same after Frankenstein on the Flyers dropped him 🤣

Hopefully he doesn't kick the crap out of Martin when they play

PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $1,388,375

PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $1,388,375
- Nfdbulldawg

Not technically accurate. Holmstrom is still "in Bridgeport", on paper. Once they call him back up the cap space should go to $525,042