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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 1:42 PM ET
Which trade are you talking about?
- kingcong39


The Dadanov trade from Vegas to Anaheim. I believe a lot of this started because Vegas traded him to a team he wouldn't waive for. They said they did it bc they didn't know about the NMC...but it's been pointed out Cap Friendly knew, so was just wondering how that could possibly be the case. It seems like they didn't WANT to know.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 1 @ 1:48 PM ET
What I don't understand is how Ottawa kept it a secret from Vegas, when Cap Friendly had the NMC on their site. How does Cap Friendly know, but Vegas doesn't. Willfully ignorant?

Furthermore, Dad's agent reached out to them about this when the news broke. Vegas tried to go through with the trade anyways. What's the penalty for knowingly trying to circumvent a NMC by the host team? Should be more than hiding it from a team that wasn't on the list, I would think.

- QuinnFan


Saw one the tsn guys say they didn't provide the proper list. Makes it sound like they provided an older one.

On the other hand, if it's that innocent, the penalty seems extreme.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
Saw one the tsn guys say they didn't provide the proper list. Makes it sound like they provided an older one.

On the other hand, if it's that innocent, the penalty seems extreme.

- Lunaion


Yeah, that's a pretty pedestrian offense compared to the punishment, I don't buy it. I also don't buy that Vegas acquired a player and while Cap Friendly knew, they were ignorant of the clause in there.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
The Dadanov trade from Vegas to Anaheim. I believe a lot of this started because Vegas traded him to a team he wouldn't waive for. They said they did it bc they didn't know about the NMC...but it's been pointed out Cap Friendly knew, so was just wondering how that could possibly be the case. It seems like they didn't WANT to know.
- QuinnFan


>>>Turns out, as the NHL confirmed with Wednesday’s punishment, the Senators were to blame. The root issue goes back to Dadonov’s arrival in 2021. Upon completing the trade call, as sources say is customary on the call, there is record of the Golden Knights’ representative asking if the team needed to be aware of any “no-trade” clauses. They were told no, and no list was passed along. Dadonov’s agent provided proof that he had indeed submitted a previous “no-trade” list to Ottawa.

The Golden Knights continued to pursue justice over the last 591 days and the league finally slapped the Sens on Wednesday.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....for-botched-dadonov-trade
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
Saw one the tsn guys say they didn't provide the proper list. Makes it sound like they provided an older one.

On the other hand, if it's that innocent, the penalty seems extreme.

- Lunaion


Check my post above.

Ottawa was asked during the trade call and lied, saying there was no clause and no list.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:08 PM ET
What I don't understand is how Ottawa kept it a secret from Vegas, when Cap Friendly had the NMC on their site. How does Cap Friendly know, but Vegas doesn't. Willfully ignorant?

Furthermore, Dad's agent reached out to them about this when the news broke. Vegas tried to go through with the trade anyways. What's the penalty for knowingly trying to circumvent a NMC by the host team? Should be more than hiding it from a team that wasn't on the list, I would think.

- QuinnFan


If you work in the league, who do you believe: Somebody that also works in the league, or a website that has no affiliation with the league?

Ottawa got hammered for lying about it during the trade call between them and Vegas.

Vegas should've asked the league if they felt there was a disconnect.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
LOL

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 1 @ 2:20 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...lo-sabres-history-rivalry
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:22 PM ET
Maybe they considered what Arizona did as trying to gain a competitive advantage, while they categorized what Ottawa did more as negligence?

No idea, only guessing.

- kingcong39


decent thought.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 1 @ 2:23 PM ET
my guess is because the season already started and if it was sept 1st instead on november 1st, the pick would have been 2024
- homiedclown


this could make sense, but then also maybe you just give them 24 or 25.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 1 @ 2:43 PM ET

- jochfr



DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 1 @ 2:43 PM ET
From Granato:
1) Jost & Biro in, Olofsson out.
2). Levi trending well for weekend: "I am very happy for him and for us. We'll have a better goaltender coming back by virtue of the experience he gained from this."
3). UPL: "He's looked more comfortable each day out."
#Sabres

https://fxtwitter.com/ByM...CETTAOUpvwUxSi31doCw&s=19

- kingcong39


Thanks
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 1 @ 2:44 PM ET

- kingcong39


They get to decide once they know where they stand this year


Whatta joke
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 1 @ 2:46 PM ET
Chia being hired as Ottawa GM

Call him now and offer greenway and Girgensons for one of their better players.

Chia loves truculence.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
I'll be there
- DirtyDan


Me too , section 100 level / Levi shoots twice end

Depends on what happens tonight, but they like Levi at home
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Nov 1 @ 2:59 PM ET
Me too , section 100 level / Levi shoots twice end

Depends on what happens tonight, but they like Levi at home

- Boss34


Makes sense to rest UPL Friday.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
If you work in the league, who do you believe: Somebody that also works in the league, or a website that has no affiliation with the league?

Ottawa got hammered for lying about it during the trade call between them and Vegas.

Vegas should've asked the league if they felt there was a disconnect.

- kingcong39


I think, if I ran a major sports franchise, that a NMC on an unaffiliated site would make me very wary and I would DEFINITELY call the agent before I tied myself to paying the player millions of dollars. I guess Vegas runs a very loose ship.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Chia being hired as Ottawa GM

Call him now and offer greenway and Girgensons for one of their better players.

Chia loves truculence.

- ImThatGuy


Girgs and Ostlund for Stutzle
Girgs and Ostlund for Stutzle
Girgs and Ostlund for Stutzle

*opens eyes to see if it happened*
Theguywiththething
Joined: 07.17.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
Chia being hired as Ottawa GM

Call him now and offer greenway and Girgensons for one of their better players.

Chia loves truculence.

- ImThatGuy


Notice any similarities to a certain GM in the league?

DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:09 PM ET
I think, if I ran a major sports franchise, that a NMC on an unaffiliated site would make me very wary and I would DEFINITELY call the agent before I tied myself to paying the player millions of dollars. I guess Vegas runs a very loose ship.
- QuinnFan


Its Vegas' fault Ottawa didnt disclose the NMC?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Me too , section 100 level / Levi shoots twice end

Depends on what happens tonight, but they like Levi at home

- Boss34


See ya there Bossman
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
Its Vegas' fault Ottawa didnt disclose the NMC?
- DirtyDan


No, it's their fault they tried to circumvent it. There were literally articles written about how people were surprised that Dadonov waived to go to Anaheim. Again, if a hockey blogger knows, you think the Las Vegas Knights were not aware? If that's what we think, I have many bridges to sell.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
No, it's their fault they tried to circumvent it. There were literally articles written about how people were surprised that Dadonov waived to go to Anaheim. Again, if a hockey blogger knows, you think the Las Vegas Knights were not aware? If that's what we think, I have many bridges to sell.
- QuinnFan

maybe the Knight's GM was dealing with warped boards

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
I think, if I ran a major sports franchise, that a NMC on an unaffiliated site would make me very wary and I would DEFINITELY call the agent before I tied myself to paying the player millions of dollars. I guess Vegas runs a very loose ship.
- QuinnFan


Capfriendly has been wrong in the past, and did they have any intention of trading him at the time they acquired him, enough that knowing Dadonov had a clause would have prohibited them from making the trade to get him?

Doubtful.

That loose ship just won the cup.

I wish the Sabres ran a loose ship like that, where winning was the only thing that mattered.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Nov 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
maybe the Knight's GM was dealing with warped boards
- homiedclown



And all they needed was this:

https://handymansworld.ne...straighten-warped-boards/
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