when the whole team gets trucked on the draw, really funny to see one get called out. When you take a draw vs a big strong guy, who is good at it, best of luck. Plus it looked like they let Staal not get his stick down a good bit, just savvy on this part.
- wcorvette

The Linesman threw the Flyers out numerous times for what I considered to be bad calls. They didn't give any leeway to the Flyers on a number of draws.

when the whole team gets trucked on the draw, really funny to see one get called out. When you take a draw vs a big strong guy, who is good at it, best of luck. Plus it looked like they let Staal not get his stick down a good bit, just savvy on this part.
- wcorvette

Its Halloween, we seem to have a whole room full of Tortorella impersonators.

Its Halloween, we seem to have a whole room full of Tortorella impersonators.

- MBFlyerfan

LOL

The Linesman threw the Flyers out numerous times for what I considered to be bad calls. They didn't give any leeway to the Flyers on a number of draws.
- MJL

yea saw that, could be a nod to Staal and his rep, they also let Staal pick up his stick numerous times. I always felt there were benefits to having your stick down first, at least when I was facing someone my size or close. When bigger stronger prefer to be last on the ice.

they do, but as soon as they opposing player starts to put his down, the other starts to come up. Some get away with it and some not. Last night it seemed the Flyers were kicked out quickly.

yea saw that, could be a nod to Staal and his rep, they also let Staal pick up his stick numerous times. I always felt there were benefits to having your stick down first, at least when I was facing someone my size or close. When bigger stronger prefer to be last on the ice.
- wcorvette

Well the attacking player has to put his stick down first. Except for a center ice draw.

Not arguing the importance of winning face off (especially in the critical times of the game). As important as FO% stat is, it's not the one that determines success of the player or a team.
- missingmike

I agree it’s a little overblown. But when a team has no good face off men, teams can make you pay. But I don’t think a young guy like Frost should shoulder as much blame as a veteran who is bad at draws.

how is Jonathan Huberdeau on faceoffs..

uncle ivan leading those blue jackets in scoring logging 23+ a night.

9 points for top pair dman ghost.

hayes struggling as is whole team scoring wise

how is Jonathan Huberdeau on faceoffs..
- hello it's me 2050

Pretty incredible. 9 games into the season and hasn’t lost one yet.

I agree it’s a little overblown. But when a team has no good face off men, teams can make you pay. But I don’t think a young guy like Frost should shoulder as much blame as a veteran who is bad at draws.
- Minnyhock

I really don't think FO% is overblown. Today's game is about possession more than ever and losing draws is not a good start to the play. Looks like the Flyers got curb stomped in the faceoff circle last night. When you are inferior to the other team already that's not a good thing.

I really don't think FO% is overblown. Today's game is about possession more than ever and losing draws is not a good start to the play. Looks like the Flyers got curb stomped in the faceoff circle last night. When you are inferior to the other team already that's not a good thing.
- Phillywhiteout

Possession stat experts pretty much believe that faceoffs have little effect on puck possession.

I really don't think FO% is overblown. Today's game is about possession more than ever and losing draws is not a good start to the play. Looks like the Flyers got curb stomped in the faceoff circle last night. When you are inferior to the other team already that's not a good thing.
- Phillywhiteout

Possession stat experts pretty much believe that faceoffs have little effect on puck possession.

Possession stat experts pretty much believe that faceoffs have little effect on puck possession.
- MJL

I don't agree with those so called experts. My point being when you are giving up possession all night to a superior team it's probably not gonna end well cause Carolina is a puck possession team to begin with. Don't know what possession stats were for last night's game, but the Flyers need all the help that they can get.

I don't agree with those so called experts. My point being when you are giving up possession all night to a superior team it's probably not gonna end well cause Carolina is a puck possession team to begin with. Don't know what possession stats were for last night's game, but the Flyers need all the help that they can get.
- Phillywhiteout

Agree, depends on how clean the FO win is but it effects possession.

I don't agree with those so called experts. My point being when you are giving up possession all night to a superior team it's probably not gonna end well cause Carolina is a puck possession team to begin with. Don't know what possession stats were for last night's game, but the Flyers need all the help that they can get.
- Phillywhiteout

Yes, face offs matter. But what you do after the face off to maintain or regain possession matters more. There are centers in the league with weak face off numbers who have high possession numbers. Yes it’s good to win the face off. But multiple studies have shown that the correlation between winning face offs and winning games isn’t much.

Sandstrom to LV.

I don't agree with those so called experts. My point being when you are giving up possession all night to a superior team it's probably not gonna end well cause Carolina is a puck possession team to begin with. Don't know what possession stats were for last night's game, but the Flyers need all the help that they can get.
- Phillywhiteout

I generally don't agree with it either but statistically, it doesn't.

Sandstrom to LV.
- Minnyhock

Conditioning assignment

I generally don't agree with it either but statistically, it doesn't.
- MJL

I don’t want to dwell on this too much but just an anecdote. Last year in the playoffs Dallas scored 4 goals against the Wild in the span of 8 seconds after winning PP face offs. It’s a small sample but it seems face offs mean more in the playoffs when the margin for error shrinks.

I don’t want to dwell on this too much but just an anecdote. Last year in the playoffs Dallas scored 4 goals against the Wild in the span of 8 seconds after winning PP face offs. It’s a small sample but it seems face offs mean more in the playoffs when the margin for error shrinks.
- Minnyhock

Well that's the thing about hockey and statistics such as possession. Goals are a low event in hockey. A statistic such as possession measured with shot attempt data, which is much higher occurring event. That one low event can have a major impact on the result of a game. When saying that faceoffs don't correlate to higher possession. Is not the same thing as saying that faceoffs aren't important.

A fire able offense in my opinion. On the GM also.
- MJL

LOL! Please tell me you are joking? Fire the coach and GM bc a player was scratched 6 games? You really need to consider following another team if you really are serious about this. I don't know the average age but they are playing Brink, York, Zamula, Foerster, etc. I've been following hockey for years, but don't recall a team playing pretty much a whole roster full of kids. Sorry to disappoint but guys like ND and Hathaway will be on NHL teams no matter how much you hate vets.

LOL! Please tell me you are joking? Fire the coach and GM bc a player was scratched 6 games? You really need to consider following another team if you really are serious about this. I don't know the average age but they are playing Brink, York, Zamula, Foerster, etc. I've been following hockey for years, but don't recall a team playing pretty much a whole roster full of kids. Sorry to disappoint but guys like ND and Hathaway will be on NHL teams no matter how much you hate vets.
- Don Nachbaur

No, I'm not joking. You continue to post asinine comments on a regular basis. If I hate vets so much, why did I advocate for the Flyers to re-sign Couturier when everyone wanted him to be traded? LOL. You don't have the facts. I know you lurk every day but only get the "urge" to post late at night. Normally around 10PM. I have never advocated for a whole roster of kids. What are you talking about? LOL
The issue with scratching Frost is more than just about one player getting scratched. It's about the fact that there was no legitimate reason why Frost was scratched and removed from the lineup. Tortorella just doesn't like the player. Simple as that. That's not a coach that I want coaching the team I root for that is supposedly rebuilding. Not to mention all the other issues I have with his coaching.

Since we're into telling others what they should consider. Here is what I think you should consider. One, know the facts of what someone's position actually is before you comment. Most of all, you should consider actually learning something about the game of hockey. Maybe you won't embarrass yourself daily then. Normally around 10PM. Like clockwork.

uncle ivan leading those blue jackets in scoring logging 23+ a night.

9 points for top pair dman ghost.

hayes struggling as is whole team scoring wise
- hello it's me 2050

Love Uncle Ivan...Koloff and Provorov! I never had an issue with Provy. It's a shame we've stunk the past few years. He was a warrior and I doubt anyone on the current team can log the minutes that Provy did while still being somewhat successful. He was one of my favorites during these dismal years and I miss seeing him play for us.

Ghost might have a good stretch here and there but I'll quit drinking if he somehow becomes an elite D-man and makes a major difference on an NHL team. He's a one hit wonder.

Haysie - nuff said. Although He's a fun guy in the locker room! There was that beer named after him so that's cool!

Love Uncle Ivan...Koloff and Provorov! I never had an issue with Provy. It's a shame we've stunk the past few years. He was a warrior and I doubt anyone on the current team can log the minutes that Provy did while still being somewhat successful. He was one of my favorites during these dismal years and I miss seeing him play for us.

Ghost might have a good stretch here and there but I'll quit drinking if he somehow becomes an elite D-man and makes a major difference on an NHL team. He's a one hit wonder.

Haysie - nuff said. Although He's a fun guy in the locker room! There was that beer named after him so that's cool!
- Don Nachbaur

Seems as though you are uninformed. Sanheim is currently 3rd in the NHL in ice time per game at 24.42 TOI/GP. He's playing very well and certainly meets the criteria of being somewhat successful.

No, I'm not joking. You continue to post asinine comments on a regular basis. If I hate vets so much, why did I advocate for the Flyers to re-sign Couturier when everyone wanted him to be traded? LOL. You don't have the facts. I know you lurk every day but only get the "urge" to post late at night. Normally around 10PM. I have never advocated for a whole roster of kids. What are you talking about? LOL
The issue with scratching Frost is more than just about one player getting scratched. It's about the fact that there was no legitimate reason why Frost was scratched and removed from the lineup. Tortorella just doesn't like the player. Simple as that. That's not a coach that I want coaching the team I root for that is supposedly rebuilding. Not to mention all the other issues I have with his coaching.

Since we're into telling others what they should consider. Here is what I think you should consider. One, know the facts of what someone's position actually is before you comment. Most of all, you should consider actually learning something about the game of hockey. Maybe you won't embarrass yourself daily then. Normally around 10PM. Like clockwork.

- MJL

Ok, I'll play even though I should take the advice of Black Francis and not bother with your ridiculous nonsense. Your hero Coots aside, you bash the vets that the dinosaur likes to play. We all know that Torts is archaic, ND is a neanderthal, DB has not guts, etc.

Yes, i do check out Bill's blog and some comments during my lunch break but don't have time to thoroughly read everything until the evening. FYI, I typically get home around 6 pm and then eat dinner, do things around the house, etc. Sorry I don't have anything to do all day like yourself and cry about the Flyers.

Now let's go to Frosty, who I've said I lwant in the lineup. So they moved Laughton to the 4th. Fine. Would you want Frosty on the 4th? You complained last year about how he was playing with stiffs. Let's talk hockey - what is your solution? Do you want Foerester on the 4th with the stiffs? What do you suggest since you know more than any of us?

PS: come up with new material aside from telling people they are clueless and embarrassing themselves. Be well, o great one! Hopefully Jonesy and DB will read your posts and realize that they are doing everything wrong and will right the ship! Peace!