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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
Yup, even if all it is turns out to be grabbing the jersey and tossing him down fine just do something “captain”.

Still liking JT’s skill set but I won’t lie, that left a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to him being a captain.

It’s early but poor Gio is already a second pairing guy.

- Dozzer

Unfortunately there really isnt anyone else to take the captaincy in that regard, cause Matthews sure as poop wouldn't have done anything
Missed opportunity for jt, but still glad hes captain
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 4 @ 12:52 PM ET
Sheldon Keefe on the lack of physical response after the Liljegren injury “I hated everything about it.”

But I guess he should have played Reaves every shift against Marchand. Fire the coach!

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Bruins are a very well coached team. The results are clear. Most predicted, including Bruins fans that this would be a down year for them. They are excellent on winning faceoffs, which takes practice and coaching. Reaves is not a very good hockey player, but he is one of the better pugalists in the NHL. He also hits very hard. Because the Bruins had final change Reaves could not be employed in an offensive zone faceoff against Marchand. Keefe will have that opportunity when the Leafs host the Bruins on Dec 2. As I clearly stated before, I don't believe a brief wrestling match with Marchand would be acceptable form of retaliation. IMO the only retaliation worthwhile is a significant hit on Marchand that causes damage. Giving him a black eye isn't evening things up.

But carry on with your sarcasm - it's what you do.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
High ankle sprain for Liljegren. On LTIR. Benoit and Lajoie called up. Both LD. This will be interesting.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Nov 4 @ 12:54 PM ET
Leafs’ Timothy Liljegren to miss ‘significant’ time with high ankle sprain:

Figure he won't be right all year... these are terrible .. better to break it..

After the ASG is when I expect him back..
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Nov 4 @ 12:54 PM ET
Lance Hornby 🇺🇦
@sunhornby
·
1h
Both Reaves and Tavares said the lack of response to the Liljegren incident has been addressed by the team going forward.

____________________

Then it better never happen again. And if it does, then (frank) you.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Mmm yeah I don’t know!! Now I see some lightweight doing something dumb and the Leafs team pummeling him, and saying see, we are looking after each other. And then they slingshot back to being themselves. They’ve been like this forever. Hell Tkachuk punched Marner in the face three times last playoffs and nobody did anything….not even Marner! He just stood there and took it!! So yeah I see a response in the future but can’t see it lasting…..just not in their DNA.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
Leafs’ Timothy Liljegren to miss ‘significant’ time with high ankle sprain:

Figure he won't be right all year... these are terrible .. better to break it..

After the ASG is when I expect him back..

- dozerD10

gonna be a few Leafs players ashamed of themselves when they hear this
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 4 @ 1:04 PM ET
High ankle sprain for Liljegren. On LTIR. Benoit and Lajoie called up. Both LD. This will be interesting.
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Just read the article you read I guess man -Keefe was not a happy camper. So I was leaning wrong about the situation - I figured he out a leash in them. Guess not.

For the Leafs I was hoping that it was Keefe though. Nothing left to blame but the softies now. Like I said last night I saw domi being a sink out there like he did vs LA (Kempe) I love the poor sportsmanship he showed in the LA game when it was clear no comeback was happening.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 4 @ 1:06 PM ET
Bruins are a very well coached team. The results are clear. Most predicted, including Bruins fans that this would be a down year for them. They are excellent on winning faceoffs, which takes practice and coaching. Reaves is not a very good hockey player, but he is one of the better pugalists in the NHL. He also hits very hard. Because the Bruins had final change Reaves could not be employed in an offensive zone faceoff against Marchand. Keefe will have that opportunity when the Leafs host the Bruins on Dec 2. As I clearly stated before, I don't believe a brief wrestling match with Marchand would be acceptable form of retaliation. IMO the only retaliation worthwhile is a significant hit on Marchand that causes damage. Giving him a black eye isn't evening things up.

But carry on with your sarcasm - it's what you do.

- winsix

Sorry but I don’t buy that a specific injury for Marchand is required as an acceptable reaction to Liljegren’s slew foot. And I certainly don’t think that throwing Reaves and the 4th line out until they “get him” is required. Thst line can’t keep up with other team’s 4th lines, let alone Marchand.
winsix
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Nov 4 @ 1:14 PM ET
Sorry but I don’t buy that a specific injury for Marchand is required as an acceptable reaction to Liljegren’s slew foot. And I certainly don’t think that throwing Reaves and the 4th line out until they “get him” is required. Thst line can’t keep up with other team’s 4th lines, let alone Marchand.
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Again - Keefe did not have last change and did not have the opportunity to get Reeves out on an offensive zone faceoff against Marchand. Reaves is a 2 - 8 minute minor role player on this team.

What do you think is acceptable reaction?



GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
High ankle sprain for Liljegren. On LTIR. Benoit and Lajoie called up. Both LD. This will be interesting.
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I honestly can't believe it isn't broken.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Unfortunately there really isnt anyone else to take the captaincy in that regard, cause Matthews sure as poop wouldn't have done anything
Missed opportunity for jt, but still glad hes captain

- Fakepartofme


Oh he’ll be the captain until he’s done here which likely means up until he retires.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
I honestly can't believe it isn't broken.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Terrible injury, Timmins probably out another month as well. Treliving probably needs to make a move or two. I'm not all that confident in the Marlie options that were just called up.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
Mike Augello: Liljegren Injured In Shootout Loss To Boston
- mikeinbuffalo

it’s gratifying to see that everyone is finally realizing after 20 years that I’ve been right all along 😍

a bunch of lily livered, pencil neck, ice dancing fancy bois ain’t gonna bring the cup back to the center of the hockey universe 🤦🏿‍♂️

greedy big hat female dog and klingturd for wilson, ovie and edmunson👍

ovie breaks the record as a leaf and we get a championship 👊🏿😍

what a (frank)ing joke 🤦🏿‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Nov 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
There can only be three reasons to the "softness" of the team over the past 7 years and 2 just don't seem to hold water, but here they are....

1. Drafting small/speedy all these years. Leafs might just not have the right players to play the ballsy type hockey. This is a stretch since we have had massive amounts of turnover and I've watched tough/gritty players be neutered once they step on the ice in a Leafs jersey.

2. Management. We all thought because of the above it must have been Dubas. It's very clear how Trevling likes his teams and he immediately brought in Reaves/Bustuzzi/Dumi, so if it's management it now has to be Shanahan? That one doesn't seem to compute either since he's the exact type of player we are missing.

So...

3. Coach. Period. Fire his fat dumb ass.

Get a coach who will let the heavy game happen. One who understands the possession game but also knows it can be done with a (frank)ing hit or two. Not a coach who thinks hitting puts the player out of position so do the ole flick your stick at the opposition while you pirouette on by. If done right, hitting puts BOTH (frank)ing players out of position and one starts to look over their shoulder more.

Can't be one team on the ice constantly looking over their shoulder to avoid a hit. Take the (frank)ing hit and throw them (frank)ing back.

ITS.(frank)ING.HOCKEY.

A team doesn't haven't to be talented OR gritty. It can be both.

And for those saying it's 10 games. Like (frank)! It's 7 years of having some of the most talented players on the planet with the exact same results each year. Soft bullpoop.

We've wasted 7 years of Marner, Matthews, Nylander surrounding them with players that don't compliment their softness.

And Captain Casper and his exorbenate CAP hit can (frank) all the way off too. Nut up or get the (frank) out.

Matthews may not be a hitter but he's the leader of this team or should be and should have the C. Plain and simple. It's an insult for him not to have it because of Captain Quiet Time.

GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 4 @ 1:33 PM ET
Terrible injury, Timmins probably out another month as well. Treliving probably needs to make a move or two. I'm not all that confident in the Marlie options that were just called up.
- winsix


(frank). Was hoping Timmins would be back soon. What's McCabe's timeline?

I like Lagesson. I think he had a damn good pre-season and is playing well with the Leafs so far, but yeah. Not much else with the Marlies. Niemelä is playing pretty fantastic for the Marlies, but I don't think he's ready yet.
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Nov 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
Again - Keefe did not have last change and did not have the opportunity to get Reeves out on an offensive zone faceoff against Marchand. Reaves is a 2 - 8 minute minor role player on this team.

What do you think is acceptable reaction?

- winsix

Simply that they look for and take opportunities to throw hits.
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
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Nov 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
(frank). Was hoping Timmins would be back soon. What's McCabe's timeline?

I like Lagesson. I think he had a damn good pre-season and is playing well with the Leafs so far, but yeah. Not much else with the Marlies. Niemelä is playing pretty fantastic for the Marlies, but I don't think he's ready yet.

- GreatGigInTheSky

McCabe should be back next week.

Rielly-Brodie
Lagesson/Gio-McCabe
Gio/Lagesson-Klingberg
winsix
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Nov 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
(frank). Was hoping Timmins would be back soon. What's McCabe's timeline?

I like Lagesson. I think he had a damn good pre-season and is playing well with the Leafs so far, but yeah. Not much else with the Marlies. Niemelä is playing pretty fantastic for the Marlies, but I don't think he's ready yet.

- GreatGigInTheSky


McCabe should be back soon, but that still leaves the Leafs short Timmins and Liljegren for some time. I think the Leafs have to make a move to bring in a d-man or two from outside the organization. And I agree that Niemela is not yet ready.
winsix
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Nov 4 @ 1:55 PM ET
Simply that they look for and take opportunities to throw hits.
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Not enough for me. A junior B coach with a poop team beat the Leafs with the simple strategy of gooning it up against the Leafs top players. Time for Bertuzzi, Domi and others to show some value. A player causes a significant injury on a dirty play, the response needs to be significantly more than a huggy-poo
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Nov 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
McCabe should be back next week.

Rielly-Brodie
Lagesson/Gio-McCabe
Gio/Lagesson-Klingberg

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Yep. poop. Wild Card defense at best.

Lose Nylander and fix the team. It's the only option. (I would prefer JT or Marner but that's not happening)

It sucks, I love Willy, but team success must come first.

Nylander would get this team a (frank) ton in a trade.

#2RD with snarl.
#3C/2RW with skill and snarl. Jenner type.
#4RD with snarl.
Pick/prospects.

Willy will have a great career, HOF maybe, and it's tough as poop to lose him but FFS sometimes you can't keep all the sexy, shiny things when there is a very important shiny thing to win...the (frank)ing Cup.

There is a hard Cap people.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:07 PM ET
Keefe needs to go. Its the easiest of changes you can make, with potentially the biggest impact. Keefe shouldnt have to learn at this point 5 years in to coaching at the NHL level. Gallant at least has had success, gets buy in, and his teams play a structured hard nosed game.

Keefe is a decent NHL coach, not great but not the worst. At this point though he seems to have just hit his shelf life and the team cant survive on just skill alone. Keefe doesnt seem at all capable of getting more out of them, to get them to that next level/gear. Great AHL coach but.... his tenure has not been bad, but not great either.

Tre needs to not wait all year. Keefe aint his guy. The team is still very much Dubas's finesse, soeed, skill build. Like to see Tree make the coach move and get on with things.

- Roadrunner75



This pretty much explains the problem.

https://www.google.com/am...is-on-him-to-make-it-work

And this is what everyone screaming for Dubas to get fired wasn't understanding, because they expected a new GM to equate to instant cup. There was always going to be an adjustment period to a new GMs style, there was always going to be casualties as a result... And it was always going to take the time no one wanted it to take.
jribout
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Nov 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Lance Hornby 🇺🇦
@sunhornby
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1h
Both Reaves and Tavares said the lack of response to the Liljegren incident has been addressed by the team going forward.

____________________

Then it better never happen again. And if it does, then (frank) you.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Yeah I hope it does not either. I am not sure I can handle another one of your 2 blog rants about Keefe not allowing them to step up
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Nov 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Yep. poop. Wild Card defense at best.

Lose Nylander and fix the team. It's the only option. (I would prefer JT or Marner but that's not happening)

It sucks, I love Willy, but team success must come first.

Nylander would get this team a (frank) ton in a trade.

#2RD with snarl.
#3C/2RW with skill and snarl. Jenner type.
#4RD with snarl.
Pick/prospects.

Willy will have a great career, HOF maybe, and it's tough as poop to lose him but FFS sometimes you can't keep all the sexy, shiny things when there is a very important shiny thing to win...the (frank)ing Cup.

There is a hard Cap people.

- underhill14


No thanks, top scorer on a team that is having trouble scoring. Nylander has been a clutch player and worth every cent of his contract. Re-sign Nylander. Move out someone less valuable.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
Jog on
- GreatGigInTheSky

Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 4 @ 2:26 PM ET
Keefe is inconsistent with his message in my opinion. Last game he wanted the boys to have a physical response - but at times throughout last season he said their approach needs to be to get skating and make them pay in the PP after games where things got squirrley. I get there is a time and place and you can take a number but I’ve just never seen it. This time around though I was leaning to the Keefe leashed the bench - this was incorrect this time around apparently.

Anyhoo - I’d be interested in…

Defence:
- Peeke
- Zadorov
- Parayko
- Oleksiak
- Larsson
- J. Brown
- Dobson

Forwards:
- Konecny
- Laughton
- Lindholm
- Kadri
- Roslovic
- Kuraly

Make space by starting with one of 16 or 88 and go from there.
- 19 or 64.

- Lily. He’s played decent this year and now hurt but to get a different type of dman

- Bert if feeling is he can’t get better (I disagree) then maybe look at that too.

- Robertson, Finish Dmen, Picks

- I’d say Brodie but same as Lily (lately) and he pairs well with MO and is defence first which is what’s needed but maybe him as well (it is 5M no?)
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