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A_SteamingLombardi
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Nov 9 @ 1:44 AM ET
I have to stand up for those of us who jibber jabber. I think we should be allowed to talk about shit on off nights. Game nights I agree, keep the conversation tight and hockey focused. BUT, on non-game nights we should be allowed to yarn and go off topic a bit.
- bloatedmosquito



MOBY-DICK; or, THE WHALE.

By Herman Melville

CHAPTER 41. Moby Richard

I, Ishmael, was one of that crew; my shouts had gone up with the rest; my oath had been welded with theirs; and stronger I shouted, and more did I hammer and clinch my oath, because of the dread in my soul. A wild, mystical, sympathetical feeling was in me; Ahab’s quenchless feud seemed mine. With greedy ears I learned the history of that murderous monster against whom I and all the others had taken our oaths of violence and revenge.

For some time past, though at intervals only, the unaccompanied, secluded White Whale had haunted those uncivilized seas mostly frequented by the Sperm Whale fishermen. But not all of them knew of his existence; only a few of them, comparatively, had knowingly seen him; while the number who as yet had actually and knowingly given battle to him, was small indeed. For, owing to the large number of whale-cruisers; the disorderly way they were sprinkled over the entire watery circumference, many of them adventurously pushing their quest along solitary latitudes, so as seldom or never for a whole twelvemonth or more on a stretch, to encounter a single news-telling sail of any sort; the inordinate length of each separate voyage; the irregularity of the times of sailing from home; all these, with other circumstances, direct and indirect, long obstructed the spread through the whole world-wide whaling-fleet of the special individualizing tidings concerning Moby Richard. It was hardly to be doubted, that several vessels reported to have encountered, at such or such a time, or on such or such a meridian, a Sperm Whale of uncommon magnitude and malignity, which whale, after doing great mischief to his assailants, had completely escaped them; to some minds it was not an unfair presumption, I say, that the whale in question must have been no other than Moby Richard. Yet as of late the Sperm Whale fishery had been marked by various and not unfrequent instances of great ferocity, cunning, and malice in the monster attacked; therefore it was, that those who by accident ignorantly gave battle to Moby Richard; such hunters, perhaps, for the most part, were content to ascribe the peculiar terror he bred, more, as it were, to the perils of the Sperm Whale fishery at large, than to the individual cause. In that way, mostly, the disastrous encounter between Ahab and the whale had hitherto been popularly regarded.

And as for those who, previously hearing of the White Whale, by chance caught sight of him; in the beginning of the thing they had every one of them, almost, as boldly and fearlessly lowered for him, as for any other whale of that species. But at length, such calamities did ensue in these assaults—not restricted to sprained wrists and ankles, broken limbs, or devouring amputations—but fatal to the last degree of fatality; those repeated disastrous repulses, all accumulating and piling their terrors upon Moby Richard; those things had gone far to shake the fortitude of many brave hunters, to whom the story of the White Whale had eventually come.

Nor did wild rumors of all sorts fail to exaggerate, and still the more horrify the true histories of these deadly encounters. For not only do fabulous rumors naturally grow out of the very body of all surprising terrible events,—as the smitten tree gives birth to its fungi; but, in maritime life, far more than in that of terra firma, wild rumors abound, wherever there is any adequate reality for them to cling to. And as the sea surpasses the land in this matter, so the whale fishery surpasses every other sort of maritime life, in the wonderfulness and fearfulness of the rumors which sometimes circulate there. For not only are whalemen as a body unexempt from that ignorance and superstitiousness hereditary to all sailors; but of all sailors, they are by all odds the most directly brought into contact with whatever is appallingly astonishing in the sea; face to face they not only eye its greatest marvels, but, hand to jaw, give battle to them. Alone, in such remotest waters, that though you sailed a thousand miles, and passed a thousand shores, you would not come to any chiseled hearth-stone, or aught hospitable beneath that part of the sun; in such latitudes and longitudes, pursuing too such a calling as he does, the whaleman is wrapped by influences all tending to make his fancy pregnant with many a mighty birth.

No wonder, then, that ever gathering volume from the mere transit over the widest watery spaces, the outblown rumors of the White Whale did in the end incorporate with themselves all manner of morbid hints, and half-formed fœtal suggestions of supernatural agencies, which eventually invested Moby Richard with new terrors unborrowed from anything that visibly appears. So that in many cases such a panic did he finally strike, that few who by those rumors, at least, had heard of the White Whale, few of those hunters were willing to encounter the perils of his jaw.

But there were still other and more vital practical influences at work. Not even at the present day has the original prestige of the Sperm Whale, as fearfully distinguished from all other species of the leviathan, died out of the minds of the whalemen as a body. There are those this day among them, who, though intelligent and courageous enough in offering battle to the Greenland or Right whale, would perhaps—either from professional inexperience, or incompetency, or timidity, decline a contest with the Sperm Whale; at any rate, there are plenty of whalemen, especially among those whaling nations not sailing under the American flag, who have never hostilely encountered the Sperm Whale, but whose sole knowledge of the leviathan is restricted to the ignoble monster primitively pursued in the North; seated on their hatches, these men will hearken with a childish fireside interest and awe, to the wild, strange tales of Southern whaling. Nor is the pre-eminent tremendousness of the great Sperm Whale anywhere more feelingly comprehended, than on board of those prows which stem him.

And as if the now tested reality of his might had in former legendary times thrown its shadow before it; we find some book naturalists—Olassen and Povelson—declaring the Sperm Whale not only to be a consternation to every other creature in the sea, but also to be so incredibly ferocious as continually to be athirst for human blood. Nor even down to so late a time as Cuvier’s, were these or almost similar impressions effaced. For in his Natural History, the Baron himself affirms that at sight of the Sperm Whale, all fish (sharks included) are “struck with the most lively terrors,” and “often in the precipitancy of their flight dash themselves against the rocks with such violence as to cause instantaneous death.” And however the general experiences in the fishery may amend such reports as these; yet in their full terribleness, even to the bloodthirsty item of Povelson, the superstitious belief in them is, in some vicissitudes of their vocation, revived in the minds of the hunters.

So that overawed by the rumors and portents concerning him, not a few of the fishermen recalled, in reference to Moby Richard, the earlier days of the Sperm Whale fishery, when it was oftentimes hard to induce long practised Right whalemen to embark in the perils of this new and daring warfare; such men protesting that although other leviathans might be hopefully pursued, yet to chase and point lance at such an apparition as the Sperm Whale was not for mortal man. That to attempt it, would be inevitably to be torn into a quick eternity. On this head, there are some remarkable documents that may be consulted.

Nevertheless, some there were, who even in the face of these things were ready to give chase to Moby Richard; and a still greater number who, chancing only to hear of him distantly and vaguely, without the specific details of any certain calamity, and without superstitious accompaniments, were sufficiently hardy not to flee from the battle if offered.

One of the wild suggestions referred to, as at last coming to be linked with the White Whale in the minds of the superstitiously inclined, was the unearthly conceit that Moby Richard was ubiquitous; that he had actually been encountered in opposite latitudes at one and the same instant of time.

Nor, credulous as such minds must have been, was this conceit altogether without some faint show of superstitious probability. For as the secrets of the currents in the seas have never yet been divulged, even to the most erudite research; so the hidden ways of the Sperm Whale when beneath the surface remain, in great part, unaccountable to his pursuers; and from time to time have originated the most curious and contradictory speculations regarding them, especially concerning the mystic modes whereby, after sounding to a great depth, he transports himself with such vast swiftness to the most widely distant points.

It is a thing well known to both American and English whale-ships, and as well a thing placed upon authoritative record years ago by Scoresby, that some whales have been captured far north in the Pacific, in whose bodies have been found the barbs of harpoons darted in the Greenland seas. Nor is it to be gainsaid, that in some of these instances it has been declared that the interval of time between the two assaults could not have exceeded very many days. Hence, by inference, it has been believed by some whalemen, that the Nor’ West Passage, so long a problem to man, was never a problem to the whale. So that here, in the real living experience of living men, the prodigies related in old times of the inland Strello mountain in Portugal (near whose top there was said to be a lake in which the wrecks of ships floated up to the surface); and that still more wonderful story of the Arethusa fountain near Syracuse (whose waters were believed to have come from the Holy Land by an underground passage); these fabulous narrations are almost fully equalled by the realities of the whalemen.

Forced into familiarity, then, with such prodigies as these; and knowing that after repeated, intrepid assaults, the White Whale had escaped alive; it cannot be much matter of surprise that some whalemen should go still further in their superstitions; declaring Moby Richard not only ubiquitous, but immortal (for immortality is but ubiquity in time); that though groves of spears should be planted in his flanks, he would still swim away unharmed; or if indeed he should ever be made to spout thick blood, such a sight would be but a ghastly deception; for again in unensanguined billows hundreds of leagues away, his unsullied jet would once more be seen.

But even stripped of these supernatural surmisings, there was enough in the earthly make and incontestable character of the monster to strike the imagination with unwonted power. For, it was not so much his uncommon bulk that so much distinguished him from other sperm whales, but, as was elsewhere thrown out—a peculiar snow-white wrinkled forehead, and a high, pyramidical white hump. These were his prominent features; the tokens whereby, even in the limitless, uncharted seas, he revealed his identity, at a long distance, to those who knew him.

The rest of his body was so streaked, and spotted, and marbled with the same shrouded hue, that, in the end, he had gained his distinctive appellation of the White Whale; a name, indeed, literally justified by his vivid aspect, when seen gliding at high noon through a dark blue sea, leaving a milky-way wake of creamy foam, all spangled with golden gleamings.

Nor was it his unwonted magnitude, nor his remarkable hue, nor yet his deformed lower jaw, that so much invested the whale with natural terror, as that unexampled, intelligent malignity which, according to specific accounts, he had over and over again evinced in his assaults. More than all, his treacherous retreats struck more of dismay than perhaps aught else. For, when swimming before his exulting pursuers, with every apparent symptom of alarm, he had several times been known to turn round suddenly, and, bearing down upon them, either stave their boats to splinters, or drive them back in consternation to their ship.

Already several fatalities had attended his chase. But though similar disasters, however little bruited ashore, were by no means unusual in the fishery; yet, in most instances, such seemed the White Whale’s infernal aforethought of ferocity, that every dismembering or death that he caused, was not wholly regarded as having been inflicted by an unintelligent agent.

Judge, then, to what pitches of inflamed, distracted fury the minds of his more desperate hunters were impelled, when amid the chips of chewed boats, and the sinking limbs of torn comrades, they swam out of the white curds of the whale’s direful wrath into the serene, exasperating sunlight, that smiled on, as if at a birth or a bridal.

His three boats stove around him, and oars and men both whirling in the eddies; one captain, seizing the line-knife from his broken prow, had dashed at the whale, as an Arkansas duellist at his foe, blindly seeking with a six inch blade to reach the fathom-deep life of the whale. That captain was Ahab. And then it was, that suddenly sweeping his sickle-shaped lower jaw beneath him, Moby Richard had reaped away Ahab’s leg, as a mower a blade of grass in the field. No turbaned Turk, no hired Venetian or Malay, could have smote him with more seeming malice. Small reason was there to doubt, then, that ever since that almost fatal encounter, Ahab had cherished a wild vindictiveness against the whale, all the more fell for that in his frantic morbidness he at last came to identify with him, not only all his bodily woes, but all his intellectual and spiritual exasperations. The White Whale swam before him as the monomaniac incarnation of all those malicious agencies which some deep men feel eating in them, till they are left living on with half a heart and half a lung. That intangible malignity which has been from the beginning; to whose dominion even the modern Christians ascribe one-half of the worlds; which the ancient Ophites of the east reverenced in their statue devil;—Ahab did not fall down and worship it like them; but deliriously transferring its idea to the abhorred white whale, he pitted himself, all mutilated, against it. All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil, to crazy Ahab, were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Moby Richard. He piled upon the whale’s white hump the sum of all the general rage and hate felt by his whole race from Adam down; and then, as if his chest had been a mortar, he burst his hot heart’s shell upon it.

It is not probable that this monomania in him took its instant rise at the precise time of his bodily dismemberment. Then, in darting at the monster, knife in hand, he had but given loose to a sudden, passionate, corporal animosity; and when he received the stroke that tore him, he probably but felt the agonizing bodily laceration, but nothing more. Yet, when by this collision forced to turn towards home, and for long months of days and weeks, Ahab and anguish lay stretched together in one hammock, rounding in mid winter that dreary, howling Patagonian Cape; then it was, that his torn body and gashed soul bled into one another; and so interfusing, made him mad. That it was only then, on the homeward voyage, after the encounter, that the final monomania seized him, seems all but certain from the fact that, at intervals during the passage, he was a raving lunatic; and, though unlimbed of a leg, yet such vital strength yet lurked in his Egyptian chest, and was moreover intensified by his delirium, that his mates were forced to lace him fast, even there, as he sailed, raving in his hammock. In a strait-jacket, he swung to the mad rockings of the gales. And, when running into more sufferable latitudes, the ship, with mild stun’sails spread, floated across the tranquil tropics, and, to all appearances, the old man’s delirium seemed left behind him with the Cape Horn swells, and he came forth from his dark den into the blessed light and air; even then, when he bore that firm, collected front, however pale, and issued his calm orders once again; and his mates thanked God the direful madness was now gone; even then, Ahab, in his hidden self, raved on. Human madness is oftentimes a cunning and most feline thing. When you think it fled, it may have but become transfigured into some still subtler form. Ahab’s full lunacy subsided not, but deepeningly contracted; like the unabated Hudson, when that noble Northman flows narrowly, but unfathomably through the Highland gorge. But, as in his narrow-flowing monomania, not one jot of Ahab’s broad madness had been left behind; so in that broad madness, not one jot of his great natural intellect had perished. That before living agent, now became the living instrument. If such a furious trope may stand, his special lunacy stormed his general sanity, and carried it, and turned all its concentred cannon upon its own mad mark; so that far from having lost his strength, Ahab, to that one end, did now possess a thousand fold more potency than ever he had sanely brought to bear upon any one reasonable object.

This is much; yet Ahab’s larger, darker, deeper part remains unhinted. But vain to popularize profundities, and all truth is profound. Winding far down from within the very heart of this spiked Hotel de Cluny where we here stand—however grand and wonderful, now quit it;—and take your way, ye nobler, sadder souls, to those vast Roman halls of Thermes; where far beneath the fantastic towers of man’s upper earth, his root of grandeur, his whole awful essence sits in bearded state; an antique buried beneath antiquities, and throned on torsoes! So with a broken throne, the great gods mock that captive king; so like a Caryatid, he patient sits, upholding on his frozen brow the piled entablatures of ages. Wind ye down there, ye prouder, sadder souls! question that proud, sad king! A family likeness! aye, he did beget ye, ye young exiled royalties; and from your grim sire only will the old State-secret come.

Now, in his heart, Ahab had some glimpse of this, namely: all my means are sane, my motive and my object mad. Yet without power to kill, or change, or shun the fact; he likewise knew that to mankind he did long dissemble; in some sort, did still. But that thing of his dissembling was only subject to his perceptibility, not to his will determinate. Nevertheless, so well did he succeed in that dissembling, that when with ivory leg he stepped ashore at last, no Nantucketer thought him otherwise than but naturally grieved, and that to the quick, with the terrible casualty which had overtaken him.

The report of his undeniable delirium at sea was likewise popularly ascribed to a kindred cause. And so too, all the added moodiness which always afterwards, to the very day of sailing in the Pequod on the present voyage, sat brooding on his brow. Nor is it so very unlikely, that far from distrusting his fitness for another whaling voyage, on account of such dark symptoms, the calculating people of that prudent isle were inclined to harbor the conceit, that for those very reasons he was all the better qualified and set on edge, for a pursuit so full of rage and wildness as the bloody hunt of whales. Gnawed within and scorched without, with the infixed, unrelenting fangs of some incurable idea; such an one, could he be found, would seem the very man to dart his iron and lift his lance against the most appalling of all brutes. Or, if for any reason thought to be corporeally incapacitated for that, yet such an one would seem superlatively competent to cheer and howl on his underlings to the attack. But be all this as it may, certain it is, that with the mad secret of his unabated rage bolted up and keyed in him, Ahab had purposely sailed upon the present voyage with the one only and all-engrossing object of hunting the White Whale. Had any one of his old acquaintances on shore but half dreamed of what was lurking in him then, how soon would their aghast and righteous souls have wrenched the ship from such a fiendish man! They were bent on profitable cruises, the profit to be counted down in dollars from the mint. He was intent on an audacious, immitigable, and supernatural revenge.

Here, then, was this grey-headed, ungodly old man, chasing with curses a Job’s whale round the world, at the head of a crew, too, chiefly made up of mongrel renegades, and castaways, and cannibals—morally enfeebled also, by the incompetence of mere unaided virtue or right-mindedness in Starbuck, the invulnerable jollity of indifference and recklessness in Stubb, and the pervading mediocrity in Flask. Such a crew, so officered, seemed specially picked and packed by some infernal fatality to help him to his monomaniac revenge. How it was that they so aboundingly responded to the old man’s ire—by what evil magic their souls were possessed, that at times his hate seemed almost theirs; the White Whale as much their insufferable foe as his; how all this came to be—what the White Whale was to them, or how to their unconscious understandings, also, in some dim, unsuspected way, he might have seemed the gliding great demon of the seas of life,—all this to explain, would be to dive deeper than Ishmael can go. The subterranean miner that works in us all, how can one tell whither leads his shaft by the ever shifting, muffled sound of his pick? Who does not feel the irresistible arm drag? What skiff in tow of a seventy-four can stand still? For one, I gave myself up to the abandonment of the time and the place; but while yet all a-rush to encounter the whale, could see naught in that brute but the deadliest ill.





golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 9 @ 1:47 AM ET
You just did it again... I never claimed that building an illegal add on was the lie I speak of... it's like a big daisy chain... what people think I say doesn't actually come from my posts... people are reading the misunderstood quotes from other people and repeating it. It's classic group think.

Truly amazing....


You think I gave a poop? I was fresh off the streets. I'm just telling a story that I know Linden is a bit of a liar like the Canuck's owner who hired him. Selling a compromised building....

- boonerbuck


How is he a liar? Did he sign off on the work?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 1:48 AM ET
Hunter Brzus looks a lot like Hughes.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1722422812126941619
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 9 @ 1:52 AM ET
It was Myers
- VANTEL


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 9 @ 1:55 AM ET
Thanks ASL.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 9 @ 2:01 AM ET
Thanks NYN, greatly appreciated as this blog is about to fall off the main page.
Don’t promise what you can’t contribute. I could write a guest blog from a Flames fan perspective, but you probably wouldn’t like it.

Maybe NYN is really Micheal?

- K-man25


Man, you seem to think I want to write blogs. I don't. More than happy to just read and post. My reasoning for pushing for a new blogger is in your post: about to fall off the front page.

Ek can put someone else in charge, as long as they're putting out new things regularly I don't care.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 9 @ 2:30 AM ET
Does anyone stream NBA games? My kid wants it for his birthday but is it worth it?

https://www.nba.com/watch...c-acq:sportingnews:CA:en:
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 2:36 AM ET
Raja Shergill
@Sher_Raja
Spoke with former #Canucks GM Jim Benning. Doesn’t seem happy about Linden’s comments on
@Sportsnet650


“We were always going to draft Pettersson. The whole group liked Petey”

He mentions he felt they didn’t have enough viewings on other players and needed to do due diligence.

- VANTEL


I wonder if Benning would raise children in a house he had structurally compromised in an earthquake zone? I guess I'll never know for sure like I do Linden would...

Linden sure has one hell of a record when it comes to drama. Drama when Keenan traded him. Had a bunch to say after....

Then the drama in the NHLPA. Multiple players accusing of him double crossing the association. The drama on that went on for a few years.

Then the Canuck's bring him back but after Linden's retirement was announced, he accused Gillis of announcing his retirement before he decided and forcing him out... which was still Linden's choice in the end, yet he let someone else decide he retired??? makes no sense... He female doged and female doged about this as a regular guest on Dan Russel's show...

Then he is brought back in by Benning and the never ending drama about how things were run continues to this day. Some of what he says makes sense but some doesn't. Benning denies it...who knows. Still... never ending drama.

How does a guy with all this drama and accusations from peers around him for the last 30 years get so much trust?

It's simply called Confirmation Bias. Realistically, if it were someone else in a different market... there would be heaps of skepticism around this man.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 2:39 AM ET
Man, you seem to think I want to write blogs. I don't. More than happy to just read and post. My reasoning for pushing for a new blogger is in your post: about to fall off the front page.

Ek can put someone else in charge, as long as they're putting out new things regularly I don't care.

- NewYorkNuck


About the blogs....

Does anyone honestly think Ek is going to give any consideration to anyone's complaints and requests that doesn't subscribe? Best give him $20 or what ever it is if you want any chance to be taken serious and for what it's worth, that may be redundant anyways.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Nov 9 @ 2:44 AM ET
Just read the Linden interview, wow what a dysfunctional organization under Benning, no wonder Linden grabbed his puck and went home. Benning and Aquilini are idiots!!


“Listening to Trevor Linden it sounds like he wanted passionate discussion in his draft meetings to be the norm and what happened too often was, this is who the GM wanted and everyone needed to fall in line. I can understand why he ultimately got fed up and left. #Canucks”

- LeftCoaster


Well good to know he gave in for Petey. If only they had done it the year before and we would have had another solid NHL player instead of bust OJ.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 9 @ 2:55 AM ET
Hunter Brzus looks a lot like Hughes.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1722422812126941619

- VANTEL

A RHD nightmare to chase 👍
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 9 @ 2:56 AM ET
About the blogs....

Does anyone honestly think Ek is going to give any consideration to anyone's complaints and requests that doesn't subscribe? Best give him $20 or what ever it is if you want any chance to be taken serious and for what it's worth, that may be redundant anyways.

- boonerbuck


With how this site keeps going offline and back again, I don't think $20 is gonna do much

But to some degree I think he'd care if it drove more traffic and therefore ad revenue for him... but I generally think he doesn't even care about the site anymore. So no, I don't think it's gonna do much. But if I don't ask, I won't ever know...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 3:04 AM ET
How is he a liar? Did he sign off on the work?
- golfingsince


OMG... how many people are going to skip the part about him selling the house he did this to? You guys have to read the story to the end instead of knee jerking a couple of sentences in.... holy (frank).


Jeezus christ people are so single minded.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 3:06 AM ET
With how this site keeps going offline and back again, I don't think $20 is gonna do much

But to some degree I think he'd care if it drove more traffic and therefore ad revenue for him... but I generally think he doesn't even care about the site anymore. So no, I don't think it's gonna do much. But if I don't ask, I won't ever know...

- NewYorkNuck



It would double the sites budget though.

I think his streaming shows online are generating more money than this site has in the last 10 years.... feels like he's content to let it fizz out.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 9 @ 3:09 AM ET
It would double the sites budget though.

I think his streaming shows online are generating more money than this site has in the last 10 years.... feels like he's content to let it fizz out.

- boonerbuck


Pretty much.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 3:09 AM ET
Well good to know he gave in for Petey. Of only they had done it the year before and we would have had another solid NHL player instead of bust OJ.
- Quinn's Quest


Probably not, our development of prospects was not good, Tkachuk might not have done as well as he did in Calgary because of the constant comparisons to JV. Not to mention he probably ends up doing the same thing as he did in Calgary and request a trade elsewhere when his contract was up. OJ could have been decent had he not hurt his back which limited his already questionable mobility even further and made it impossible for him to ever reach his potential. But it would have been nice to get more than a handful of NHL games from that year's first rounder from anyone else (like Tkachuk, Sergachev, etc)
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 9 @ 3:24 AM ET
Probably not, our development of prospects was not good, Tkachuk might not have done as well as he did in Calgary because of the constant comparisons to JV. Not to mention he probably ends up doing the same thing as he did in Calgary and request a trade elsewhere when his contract was up. OJ could have been decent had he not hurt his back which limited his already questionable mobility even further and made it impossible for him to ever reach his potential. But it would have been nice to get more than a handful of NHL games from that year's first rounder from anyone else (like Tkachuk, Sergachev, etc)
- DariusKnight

Sergachev was my boy
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Nov 9 @ 4:34 AM ET
Sergachev was my boy
- Nighthawk


Wish Canucks had traded down for him but hindsight is eternal. The Linden Benning drama is just stupid they are gone and for good reason.

Looking forward to prospects developing under new regime. The current winning helps as well. Cap dancing will prove how sustainable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 5:34 AM ET
Wish Canucks had traded down for him but hindsight is eternal. The Linden Benning drama is just stupid they are gone and for good reason.

Looking forward to prospects developing under new regime. The current winning helps as well. Cap dancing will prove how sustainable.

- Quinn's Quest


I couldn't care less. I don't like Linden and Benning is history. That whole Linden Benning signing stunk from the beginning and now social media is trying to find out who was the lesser of the two evils.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 8:17 AM ET
I have been a naysayers for awhile, as I honestly didn't think this core group could play this style consistently. This is the style that wins you games, more often than not, but it is only 12 games in, so I am not ready to say that I was wrong.
If they continue ue to play like this, win or lose, I will remain positive(mostly)
Bloated and Booner discussions are almost legendary, as well as entertaining,although Moby Richard is also entertaining.

Go Canucks Go

- Reubenkincade

When injuries hit that will be the big test. Many of the top clubs can play through them with good lineup depth. When we have 3-4 starters out of the lineup it will be interesting to see how this current roster adapts.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 8:22 AM ET
Oiler and Leafs... their problems are so similar year to year. Do what ever it takes to keep the high scoring core together. Capable of winning president's trophies but not playoff series.

Even the poopty Canucks a couple years back have been further into the playoffs than the entire Matthews era Leafs. Yes, both exited in a 2nd round but we made it to game 7 at least.


I know it was the icky bubble playoffs but it was for all teams involved. Because the Leafs had to win an elimination round to get in.... they didn't get in. That's how bad they are at winning rounds.

- boonerbuck

I actually mentioned this past summer that I thought the Oilers got much worse by not retaining Bjugstad and Kostin. Now it looks like they miss Yamamoto lol

Leafs I had picked to go further this year but it appears the addition of Reaves, Bertuzzi and Domi hasn't gelled yet. Can't believe they didn't take out Marchand for what he did. It looks bad on the Leafs to 'get tougher' in the off season and not use it at all.

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 9 @ 9:30 AM ET

Galchen

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Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 9 @ 9:46 AM ET
Galchen

- Reubenkincade


He was super intoxicated there. Alcohol is a a destructive force if you don't handle it well or consume it in bucket loads.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 9 @ 9:48 AM ET
I actually mentioned this past summer that I thought the Oilers got much worse by not retaining Bjugstad and Kostin. Now it looks like they miss Yamamoto lol

Leafs I had picked to go further this year but it appears the addition of Reaves, Bertuzzi and Domi hasn't gelled yet. Can't believe they didn't take out Marchand for what he did. It looks bad on the Leafs to 'get tougher' in the off season and not use it at all.

- LordHumungous

The Leafs defensive zone coverage was just deplorable last night, it's not that they don't have a good team, it's that they don't know how to defend. A common problem among NHL teams.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 9 @ 9:56 AM ET
The Leafs defensive zone coverage was just deplorable last night, it's not that they don't have a good team, it's that they don't know how to defend. A common problem among NHL teams.
- Pacificgem


Good teams/players know how to play defense, using our boy Steve Yzerman as an example, when he was scoring 60 plus a season, he couldn't make Team Canada, then he learnt how to play defense and became one of the best in his Era.
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