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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
Thanks. Speaking of the Phantoms, did you expect them to be better (than they appear to be so far) this year?
- Dkos

they are stacked.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
I have to somewhat disagree with his first goal. He definitely made the goalie commit to the short side then went behind the net with speed. I think he knew exactly what he was doing, hoping for a bounce off the defenseman or the goalie. It was a heads up smart play.
- Angus4444



Yea, that shift made Talbot bite and he did what he should, throw it to the net, speed, skill and a little luck
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 10:43 AM ET
Torts loves his north south players. Frost is not that and never has been. He has some creativity to his game that the Flyers lack. No offence but when Frost gets the puck below the dot there isn’t anyone on the team I would rather see with the puck. Hopefully for the Flyers sake he can get on a bit of a heater and become a regular because for a team that lacks consistent scoring they need all they can get.
- landros 2


If Tip can keep finishing and TK gets hot again, that line has real potential.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Nov 12 @ 10:53 AM ET
x selke will be te top center until he has been "beaten" out for said spot.

I see TK getting his retirement ext this summer.

- hello it's me 2050

I am thinking at least 3-4 years down the road. I think Coots will be playing 3 rd line minutes at that point.
I can see TK being moved in the early New Year. Same with Hart, if not sooner with Hart if Edmonton comes calling.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 12 @ 10:55 AM ET
His numbers were insane…unorthodox style but I liked him as well.
- landros 2

The Unibrow
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 12 @ 11:00 AM ET
Had the kings feed, they thought the Flyers outplayed the kings, that the kings played on the perimeter.


Frost said he was trying to get the puck to Tip on first goal
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
I feel like I've heard someone else mention how archaic torts is... 🤔🤔🤔
If only I could recall who else has said that...
And for the record torts IS archaic and unfairly targets certain players

- Bob Habib


Yes. I’m fairly certain he’s not the coach for us moving toward but I have no real issue with him as long as he’s fostering the growth of the young players. Which he isn’t for all of them from what I see.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:03 AM ET
they are stacked.
- hello it's me 2050

All those prospects I was touting yesterday…
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 12 @ 11:05 AM ET
Roman Cechmanek passed…at 52
RIP

- landros 2


Omg. How? He had some great seasons here. Very shocking.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:06 AM ET
Roman Cechmanek passed…at 52
RIP

- landros 2



ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
Had an assist taken from him by a questionable scoring change later in the evening in Buffalo. Frost and Zamula lost assists, and a shot block credited to Henri Jokiharju was changed to a giveaway (thereby making Belpedio's goal unassisted). It was a really harsh scoring decision. On Friday, yes, the assist on Tippet's goal was a gift. But it evened out for Frost. For Zamula, not so much.
- bmeltzer

I don’t recall the other play, glad it evened out for him, just was shocked that was scored an assist.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 12 @ 11:20 AM ET
The curious case of Noah Cates. At this point out him back on the wing, would hate to see him pigeon holed into a 4th line center
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 12 @ 11:22 AM ET
The curious case of Noah Cates. At this point out him back on the wing, would hate to see him pigeon holed into a 4th line center
- wcorvette

And play him on wing instead of who in the top 9?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 12 @ 11:29 AM ET
I am thinking at least 3-4 years down the road. I think Coots will be playing 3 rd line minutes at that point.
I can see TK being moved in the early New Year. Same with Hart, if not sooner with Hart if Edmonton comes calling.

- TheFreak

got it
THE EVIL WITHIN
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Nov 12 @ 11:39 AM ET
Glad to see Frost continue his habit of only scoring against bad teams.

What a bum.

- Tomahawk

😆 🎯
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Nov 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
or a playmaking center for the second line, with Tippet and Farabee, as I think TK will get traded for a top center prospect or pick used on a center. In the Lindros days, having Brindamour as an 80 point #2 center was a team strength, and while Frost definitely isn't Brindamour, he has the skill to be a point producing 2nd line threat.

Michkov, XXX, Cutter
Farabee, Frost, Tippett
Brink, Coots, Laughton

We know Tippet and Frost work well together and so does Farabee and Tippett.We would even have a very decent 3rd scoring line with Brink and Coots.

Trade Hart and TK for firsts and prospects, and see what we have.

- TheFreak


THAT (again if Cutter and Michkov turn out to be elite) would have the potential to be a contending top 9.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Beat LA, 4-2; Phantoms blanked by Hershey, 2-0
- bmeltzer


Frosty should have potted 4 - I’m sure he will be in the pb again Wednesday
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Nov 12 @ 12:08 PM ET
Woodcroft out.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Nov 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
Holy Sht....i loved Checko

He was the most scapegoated player in flyers history

- THE BLACK HAND


Yep. He spoke the truth.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
Woodcroft out.
- landros 2

That’ll fix it
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 12 @ 12:23 PM ET
or a playmaking center for the second line, with Tippet and Farabee, as I think TK will get traded for a top center prospect or pick used on a center. In the Lindros days, having Brindamour as an 80 point #2 center was a team strength, and while Frost definitely isn't Brindamour, he has the skill to be a point producing 2nd line threat.

Michkov, XXX, Cutter
Farabee, Frost, Tippett
Brink, Coots, Laughton

We know Tippet and Frost work well together and so does Farabee and Tippett.We would even have a very decent 3rd scoring line with Brink and Coots.

Trade Hart and TK for firsts and prospects, and see what we have.

- TheFreak


Who do you have playing goal for the team? Ersson and sandstrom? I’d want a high first along with an nhl ready prospect. Preferably d.

One thing I wonder, everyone wants to get rid of hart like he’s 35. He just tuned 25 and in my view is just entering his prime with that possibly lasting until 32 let’s say? Some say his age doesn’t align with the rebuild, but Is the rebuild going to take 5 to 7 years or say 3? If so, keep him unless it’s an overpay.

Further, if we get rid of him, then we have to find an nhl tender and develop them with the hopes it works. If it doesn’t, we’re in a similar position as Edmonton and Toronto with this part of what’s holding them back. If they were plentiful I don’t see Edmonton paying Campbell as much as they did in desperation.

Not that hart is on the same level as price, but price has some of his best seasons aged 27 on. It takes a while to develop a tender and they are a hugely important cog to an emerging young teams success and having a solid vet in goal as you enter your window isn’t a bad proposition imo. Just my $.02.
wcorvette
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Nov 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
And play him on wing instead of who in the top 9?
- ClaudeFather



Laughton
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 12 @ 12:38 PM ET
Who do you have playing goal for the team? Ersson and sandstrom? I’d want a high first along with an nhl ready prospect. Preferably d.

One thing I wonder, everyone wants to get rid of hart like he’s 35. He just tuned 25 and in my view is just entering his prime with that possibly lasting until 32 let’s say? Some say his age doesn’t align with the rebuild, but Is the rebuild going to take 5 to 7 years or say 3? If so, keep him unless it’s an overpay.

Further, if we get rid of him, then we have to find an nhl tender and develop them with the hopes it works. If it doesn’t, we’re in a similar position as Edmonton and Toronto with this part of what’s holding them back. If they were plentiful I don’t see Edmonton paying Campbell as much as they did in desperation.

Not that hart is on the same level as price, but price has some of his best seasons aged 27 on. It takes a while to develop a tender and they are a hugely important cog to an emerging young teams success and having a solid vet in goal as you enter your window isn’t a bad proposition imo. Just my $.02.

- Hextall271

what do you want to pay hart in terms of $$ and term om his next deal?
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Nov 12 @ 12:39 PM ET
Who do you have playing goal for the team? Ersson and sandstrom? I’d want a high first along with an nhl ready prospect. Preferably d.

One thing I wonder, everyone wants to get rid of hart like he’s 35. He just tuned 25 and in my view is just entering his prime with that possibly lasting until 32 let’s say? Some say his age doesn’t align with the rebuild, but Is the rebuild going to take 5 to 7 years or say 3? If so, keep him unless it’s an overpay.

Further, if we get rid of him, then we have to find an nhl tender and develop them with the hopes it works. If it doesn’t, we’re in a similar position as Edmonton and Toronto with this part of what’s holding them back. If they were plentiful I don’t see Edmonton paying Campbell as much as they did in desperation.

Not that hart is on the same level as price, but price has some of his best seasons aged 27 on. It takes a while to develop a tender and they are a hugely important cog to an emerging young teams success and having a solid vet in goal as you enter your window isn’t a bad proposition imo. Just my $.02.

- Hextall271

I am torn on Hart. I have watched him since he was a teenager, playing against the Victoria Royals when he was with Everett. He set records in the CHL, and he has everything you want from a #1 goalie. I don't think his timeline lines up with the Flyers, and feel the return from a desperate team like the Oilers could add pieces that would become big cogs in the rebuild.

I do feel Ersson is one of those goalies that needs to play a lot to stay sharp, and I would be ok running him out there as our regular. Him, Cal and Felix can hold the fort down. Playoff spot? no, but they are servicable for a team that should have no playoff expectations. Next year, Kolosov arrives, and we should all be pretty excited about him. I am retired, and have a lot of free time, so I watch the KHL games with him and Michkov playing in them, and he looks really, really good.
I am not worried about goaltending at this point, if a Hart return is too good to turn down.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Woodcroft out.
- landros 2

yet the gm survives? odd to say the least
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