With absolutely no insider info, my guess is that they will find cap money for Timmins by eliminating Klingberg.

And I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about utilizing Robidas Island.

The NHL has been clear that they allow cap cheating, so frank it, let's do it.
- Atomic Wedgie

Players play through injuries

Players always have the option to not play through injuries if they don’t want to

It’s in their contract, they are protected and rightfully so

With absolutely no insider info, my guess is that they will find cap money for Timmins by eliminating Klingberg.

And I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever about utilizing Robidas Island.

The NHL has been clear that they allow cap cheating, so frank it, let's do it.
- Atomic Wedgie

Klingberg will have to agree, the leafs could try to demand it and he could openly report it to the NHL and to the media. Since the league has no concerns about the leafs’ wealth they’d get punished if they got caught.

Keep in mind that Timmins is on the cusp of returning which would leave only about $500k in cap space. Therefore, if that happens, those Marlies won’t be back anytime soon.
- Dozzer

This hinges on a few things. Is Klingberg going to LTIR? If not, do they do 11/7? If Reaves continues to be a negative player do they simply bite the bullet and waive him down to the Marlies and he becomes an expense that costs them $200k in cap space? Maybe he retires. I don't know.

Capfriendly calls Reaves' contract a 35+ contract - but it's not. It doesn't qualify by the altered CBA rules for what constitutes a real 35+ contract. It is $1.35m in each of the 3 years with no bonuses being paid out whatsoever. Remember that the intent of this rule is to stop teams from front-loading contracts to older players who could retire providing cap relief to their teams.

The qualifications for a 35+ contract are that the player must be 35 or older on June 30 of the year it was effective, it must be 2 years or longer, and it must contain a signing bonus in the 2nd or later year or be front-loaded.

This hinges on a few things. Is Klingberg going to LTIR? If not, do they do 11/7? If Reaves continues to be a negative player do they simply bite the bullet and waive him down to the Marlies and he becomes an expense that costs them $200k in cap space? Maybe he retires. I don't know.

Capfriendly calls Reaves' contract a 35+ contract - but it's not. It doesn't qualify by the altered CBA rules for what constitutes a real 35+ contract. It is $1.35m in each of the 3 years with no bonuses being paid out whatsoever. Remember that the intent of this rule is to stop teams from front-loading contracts to older players who could retire providing cap relief to their teams.

The qualifications for a 35+ contract are that the player must be 35 or older on June 30 of the year it was effective, it must be 2 years or longer, and it must contain a signing bonus in the 2nd or later year or be front-loaded.
- Monkeypunk

I have a pretty funny feeling Reaves will be on the ice for the leafs again before the leafs give up entirely on him. If the leafs turn their back on him after only 14 games that will be remembered by other UFA’s and agents which could hurt the leafs even more than just giving Reaves a handful of more chances.

I have a pretty funny feeling Reaves will be on the ice for the leafs again before the leafs give up entirely on him. If the leafs turn their back on him after only 14 games that will be remembered by other UFA’s and agents which could hurt the leafs even more than just giving Reaves a handful of more chances.
- Dozzer

As someone else mentioned earlier, can't see Reaves not playing with Perry in the line up.

Players play through injuries

Players always have the option to not play through injuries if they don’t want to

It’s in their contract, they are protected and rightfully so
- Santo_44

They will play through smaller injuries, sure. Sometimes I question NHL team doctors judgement myself - but their contract does not allow them to refuse to be placed on the IR and recover from a real injury. Lots of guys would play through concussions if given the choice.

If a player is hurt and unable to perform the team has the right to have that player seek medical assistance.

Depending on where Klingberg is, he might be there. I don't know obviously, but he might.

As someone else mentioned earlier, can't see Reaves not playing with Perry in the line up.
- systemtool

The thing I’m wondering is if he’ll only get enough games to make sure he’s not rusty come playoff time where the refs look the other way a bit more when it comes to guys his style.

Once again, the demotion of McMann to the Marlies does not necessarily mean Reaves is back in.

There is much internet speculation this is just getting McMann a game with the Marlies to say fresh and skate off the jetlag.

Let's see who boards the Leafs plane to Chicago.
- Atomic Wedgie

More accurately, I m not surprised at the prospect of him getting back in. If he’s staying on the roster, at least for now, he’s got to play at least occasionally. I think there’s a lot of balls in the air right now regarding the roster - Klinberg onto LTIR, trades, etc. While there’s room to have him move in and out of the lineup, I think that’s what we’ll see.

I have a pretty funny feeling Reaves will be on the ice for the leafs again before the leafs give up entirely on him. If the leafs turn their back on him after only 14 games that will be remembered by other UFA’s and agents which could hurt the leafs even more than just giving Reaves a handful of more chances.
- Dozzer

I can't imagine they walk away this quickly either. He'll get more playing time. The question is: at this point how much rope does he have?

-15? -20?

There's room to give the guy a legitimate fighting chance. We know who and what we want him to be, but if he can't be that, then he's letting his team and himself down.

I can't imagine they walk away this quickly either. He'll get more playing time. The question is: at this point how much rope does he have?

-15? -20?

There's room to give the guy a legitimate fighting chance. We know who and what we want him to be, but if he can't be that, then he's letting his team and himself down.
- Monkeypunk

The bolded is what I’m thinking as well. He may have only been benched a few games to wake his game up, not saying I know, but I could see it being part of the reason.

As someone else mentioned earlier, can't see Reaves not playing with Perry in the line up.
- systemtool

I’m probably in the minority but I don’t think Reaves being in the lineup affects Perry’s behaviour much one way or another. Perry is never going to fight Reaves and I doubt Reaves goes head hunting on Bedard in response to Perry’s theatrics.

ticket have become insane.
I was checking out tickets for Sammy Hagar and the 400 level were 130 each ish.
200 level was like over $500 per seat
- dmnted

Van Hagar sucks!

Reaves 👍

They will play through smaller injuries, sure. Sometimes I question NHL team doctors judgement myself - but their contract does not allow them to refuse to be placed on the IR and recover from a real injury. Lots of guys would play through concussions if given the choice.

If a player is hurt and unable to perform the team has the right to have that player seek medical assistance.

Depending on where Klingberg is, he might be there. I don't know obviously, but he might.
- Monkeypunk

Well Hossa and Murray are good examples.

Murray was cleared to play and I am sure Hossa's skin condition is quite legit and played through it his whole career..it got to a point where it wasn't worth it for him money and hockey wise and I say who cares to that.

Fans make up conspiracies and its stupid.

Kane probably should have gotten his surgery this time last year, if a player wants to sit out and fix something thats been nagging for years they are able to.

Klingberg will have to agree, the leafs could try to demand it and he could openly report it to the NHL and to the media. Since the league has no concerns about the leafs’ wealth they’d get punished if they got caught.
- Dozzer

If Klingberg plays anything like he has this year from this injury the Leafs will bury him, save 300-400K in cap and play Lagesson.

At that point his option is to sit and watch or get surgery. Or retire.

Regardless...if he is hurt bad and the result is him playing like he has this season and having constant flare ups its not a good option for either party.

ticket have become insane.
I was checking out tickets for Sammy Hagar and the 400 level were 130 each ish.
200 level was like over $500 per seat
- dmnted

You obviously don't have daughters who want to see Taylor Swift.

$500 a seat?

That's nuthin'.

If Klingberg plays anything like he has this year from this injury the Leafs will bury him, save 300-400K in cap and play Lagesson.

At that point his option is to sit and watch or get surgery. Or retire.

Regardless...if he is hurt bad and the result is him playing like he has this season and having constant flare ups its not a good option for either party.
- Santo_44

Maybe it's just me, but if my option was to limp through a season and be terrible, and then have to go get fixed...

...or have the operation now and get paid to recover in time for next year...

...pretty easy decision.

Maybe it's just me, but if my option was to limp through a season and be terrible, and then have to go get fixed...

...or have the operation now and get paid to recover in time for next year...

...pretty easy decision.
- Atomic Wedgie

Also doing this in Toronto is not fun.

Van Hagar sucks!

Reaves 👍
- mr.sir

Satriani doesn't.

You obviously don't have daughters who want to see Taylor Swift.

$500 a seat?

That's nuthin'.
- Atomic Wedgie

those are 2nd mortgages for those
she here for a week!
going to rake in the cash

Leafs aren’t going to sign anyone to three years and give up on them after 14 games. Reaves will be back in the lineup. So far he has done more talking than body contact, but his opportunity isn't over.

Mike Johnson on overdrive just said Tree is adamant that he will not let willie walk for nothing.
Signed or traded.


Been a while since we talked about willie.

Mike Johnson on overdrive just said Tree is adamant that he will not let willie walk for nothing.
Signed or traded.


Been a while since we talked about willie.
- Fakepartofme

My boy Tre knows what’s up.

I told you’s all this. Of course he wouldn’t let Willy walk for nothing. And the longer he waits, the more Willy’s trade value drops. It’ll never be higher than it is right now. Soon the succabus will gain influence, and that’ll only cost the Leafs, potentially ruining their chance of ever winning a cup.

They have to trade him like, now.

I’ve been hearing NSH and CHI a lot lately through my sources. CLB and DAL both dark horses.

I liked

Knies Matthew's Kane
Marner Tavares Nylander
Bert Domi Jamrock
- systemtool

Ya, that's nice too.

A lot of crazy options. As long as the D is fixed first, getting Kane would be fun.

My boy Tre knows what’s up.

I told you’s all this. Of course he wouldn’t let Willy walk for nothing. And the longer he waits, the more Willy’s trade value drops. It’ll never be higher than it is right now. Soon the succabus will gain influence, and that’ll only cost the Leafs, potentially ruining their chance of ever winning a cup.

They have to trade him like, now.

I’ve been hearing NSH and CHI a lot lately through my sources. CLB and DAL both dark horses.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Well you didnt tell me anything.
Ive been saying this since tree signed....tree has been scorned, wont let him walk.
Just hope he doesn't sign him to a stupid contract.

Mike Johnson on overdrive just said Tree is adamant that he will not let willie walk for nothing.
Signed or traded.


Been a while since we talked about willie.
- Fakepartofme

Of course Tree would say to the media.