Yup, Danny Briere is naive and being manipulated by the evil Jones and Torts .. Hefferty is responsible for the triumphant, which has already failed in your eyes after only 21 games. Torts wields all the power in the organization and the team will never move forward until he is gone. Hefferty on down need to go! I can go on .. but the point should be made. You have reached your quota of embarrassing yourself far ahead of me.
- jd250

There is a documented public record available. That record shows that you have been literally wrong about everything for literally years. It shows you doubling down repeatedly on your absurd opinions. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence that you are not correct. It shows my strong track record of proper assessment and evaluation. There is no rhetoric or comments that you can make that changes that reality.

I don't see any issue with playing Staal, Hathaway and Poehling, all good depth players that bring needed elements to the team. I would like to see Deslauriers used more sparingly, but unfortunately I don't see that happening with Torts, who seems to love what Deslauriers brings.
- jd250

But they are being played in place of more talented players. Then Torts throws out that it is about winning, and now you seem to think they can't do that with the young guys in the games.

I don't mind Hathaway on the 4th line for a year or 2. He should not be on the PP. That is on Torts.

I don't mind Poehling on the 3rd line, but not at the expense of Brink of Frost. That is also on Torts.

ND should only be in the lineup against bigger teams, and not on the ice against the Avs, Tampa, Leafs...where the talent level is higher than ND should be playing against. This is one of Torts brilliant decisions.

I think a cone would be faster and better than Staal. Zamula should get the majority of starts, with Staal sitting....like Torts said would happen at the beginning of the season.....oh wait ...Torts lied. That is on Torts too.

Torts is not this great, awe inspiring coach you think he is. His decisions have hurt the team, the growth of the young players, and he has contridicted what the GM's office is saying.

Ha ha, I just saw on the latest Kelce brother podcast that Travis wants to put on the skates and play with Bedard. Jason said that Tyreek Hill would fly up and down the rink! Ummm...does he know how to skate? Cracks me up! It's like that Jaylen Ramsay several year ago, said he could train for 6 months and become an NHL player. He got awfully quiet when he actually put on a pair of skates. Eh what? 6-2 Devils tonight. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Jason played HS hockey, I'm sure Travis can skate somewhat.

https://www.eliteprospect...player/454103/jason-kelce

But they are being played in place of more talented players. Then Torts throws out that it is about winning, and now you seem to think they can't do that with the young guys in the games.

I don't mind Hathaway on the 4th line for a year or 2. He should not be on the PP. That is on Torts.

I don't mind Poehling on the 3rd line, but not at the expense of Brink of Frost. That is also on Torts.

ND should be only be in the lineup against bigger teams, and not on the ice against the Avs, Tampa, Leafs...where the talent level is higher than ND should be playing against. This is one of Torts brilliant decisions.

I think a cone would be faster and better than Staal. Zamula should get the majority of starts, with Staal sitting....like Torts said would happen at the beginning of the season.....oh wait ...Torts lied. That is on Torts too.

Torts is not this great, awe inspiring coach you think he is. His decisions have hurt the team, the growth of the young players, and he has contridicted what the GM's office is saying.
- TheFreak

The coach, the POHO and the GM have all contradicted themselves. I had given Briere some benefit of the doubt but recent comments he has made has shown that he is full of crap as well. It's all orchestrated by Tortorella. He is the driving force. This franchise will never be a legitimate cup contender as long as he is involved. His involvement, along with the absurd triumvirate front office structure that Hilferty has installed. Which has led to an incompetent hire in Jones. Great guy but not qualified for the position. Has done nothing but set this franchise back further. Briere could have some potential as a GM, but not in the current environment. He appears to be in agreement with what is going on.

I dont have a problem with the team wanting to win and not try to lose on purpose like the Hawks did.

I do have a problem if they try to go the Mr. Burns route and play all sorts of veterans at the expense of youth to do it. So far it seems like they are doing it to an extent. But when they scratch Frost for half the season, scratch Brink, and Zamula for more than one game in a row in favor of the corpse of Marc Staal it leaves doubts in my mind.

I also get the load management argument to an extent, but then when Torts uses the "I dont know who to take out to get him back in" argument, it loses some of its validity.
- MBFlyerfan

Staal was out for a while with the injury. It doesn’t seem like a crime to me to let him get a few games in a row. Especially with Zamula playing poorly. The Frost thing is inexplicable

Their handling of Frost tells me they are not focused on doing the right things to rebuild. I'd also like to see Erson more. But, other than those two topics, I don't see a concern with the org refusing to develop young players. Look at their lineups this year. We have a ton of 24 and unders dressing regularly. Some playing big roles. Also, we forget about the goalie position and the youth we have there including Carter Hart who still is plenty young by goalie standards and has not hit his prime yet. It's two years now where they have attempted to bring in add youth at that position.

They dumped deadwood in the offseason. Taking the hit on Hayes exiting was critical to developing young players. Dumping TDA the same. Those were terrible mistakes of the previous regime that needed to be addressed.

The Provorov trade was nothing short of spectacular. Another example of a rebuild. On the ice they are really only being held back by their pp. They knew that coming in and yet didnt address it w dumb trade or fa or whatever. Thats actually a good thing and a sign of the rebuild.

From my perspective, the handling of Frost is the issue. However, this is not a Torts agenda. This is an org decision. Maybe there is more to that story than we are aware of right now. Just blaming Torts for the handling of Frost is lazy reporting. There's more to that story and listening to those in the media complain about Torts as it relates to Frost is kinda pathedic. There's more to the story...do your job and find out what's going on there. Either way, rebuilds are about acquiring, selling and developing assets. The Frost asset is depreciated right now and it's the Flyers job to either sell low now or develop him into the middle six playmaker this team desperately needs. Also, anyone who things Torts is coaching the same offensive style this year compared to last - simply is not paying attention or driven by a personal agenda.

There is a documented public record available. That record shows that you have been literally wrong about everything for literally years. It shows you doubling down repeatedly on your absurd opinions. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence that you are not correct. It shows my strong track record of proper assessment and evaluation. There is no rhetoric or comments that you can make that changes that reality.
- MJL

Oh man, this just made my day lol

Maybe some movement soon?

Adam Kimelman: Scouts listed to attend Tuesday’s game between the Philadelphia Flyers and Carolina Hurricanes: Anaheim Ducks, Buffalo Sabres, Chicago Blackhawks, Florida Panthers, Minnesota Wild, New Jersey Devils, New York Rangers, San Jose Sharks, Seattle Kraken, Toronto Maple Leafs, Winnipeg Jets, Vegas Golden Knights and the New York Islanders.

Lots of scouts attended the game, some would be for the Hurricanes, as they have extra dmen, but maybe a depth move with Toronto for Steeler or Walker going to the Leafs...who knows, just spitballing, but DB did say they were open for business a few days ago, and looking to make moves. Hopefully, he can move a few vets and remove the option to scratch the younger guys.

Maybe some movement soon?



Lots of scouts attended the game, some would be for the Hurricanes, as they have extra dmen, but maybe a depth move with Toronto for Steeler or Walker going to the Leafs...who knows, just spitballing, but DB did say they were open for business a few days ago, and looking to make moves. Hopefully, he can move a few vets and remove the option to scratch the younger guys.
- TheFreak

what are they worth and why would the flyers trade them now? Zamula only needs to see 60 or so games this year and we dont have any other youth we need to bring up right now. why not hold onto them until the deadline. If Walker continues playing the same way, hed prob fetch you two 2nd picks. Seeler maybe a 2nd as well.

Power play points on the season.

Sanheim 4 PP points. Leads the team

Walker 1 PP point
- MJL

That’s not exactly a glowing endorsement, leading the team on the worst power play. This team doesn’t have a solution for the Dman on the PP, would like to see York there more often.

Anyone have the hit on ghost from last night? TNT broadcast was brutal. Kreider boards Debrincat and they act like it’s the latters fault

Their handling of Frost tells me they are not focused on doing the right things to rebuild. I'd also like to see Erson more. But, other than those two topics, I don't see a concern with the org refusing to develop young players. Look at their lineups this year. We have a ton of 24 and unders dressing regularly.
- 26912 PP1

On defense they only have one regular aged under 27 playing in the top 6.

Zamula has only played 17 games because Staal and Risto were hurt.

Anyone have the hit on ghost from last night? TNT broadcast was brutal. Kreider boards Debrincat and they act like it’s the latters fault
- ClaudeFather

Kreider hit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/...&utm_content=share_button

Ghost:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1730052772236796034

https://twitter.com/i/status/1730052772236796034
- TheFreak

Bouch “does he not target his shoulder”…they defended the kreider hit too. They were both sh!tty Hits

Staal was out for a while with the injury. It doesn’t seem like a crime to me to let him get a few games in a row. Especially with Zamula playing poorly. The Frost thing is inexplicable
- Dkos

Overall, Zamula has not been playing poorly. He has certainly made some mistakes. As one would expect from a rookie NHL defenseman.

The facts are this season Farabee leads the Flyers with 14 ESP, two more than Tippett and Konecny. He's done this despite being centered mostly by Cates, Laughton and Poehling. He's been the best ES winger on the team, even though the idiot coach isn't playing him with Couturier.

Since the league went back to full seasons after Covid, Farabee has 81 ESP (38 G, 43 A) in 167 games, trailing only TK. And his ESP/60 is 2.1. That's top 6 winger production, even though it includes last season where he wasn't 100% after having neck surgery.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL
- Feanor

Well, theres your facts.

That’s not exactly a glowing endorsement, leading the team on the worst power play. This team doesn’t have a solution for the Dman on the PP, would like to see York there more often.
- ClaudeFather

I agree it's not. Honestly some changes should be made on the PP. Not the stupid changes such as Frost and Hathaway at net front, but changes. What it shows is why is Sanheim the player selected to be replaced? When he has been the most successful even at a miniscule level. The other guy hasn't been better. Reality is the Flyers don't have the personnel to have a really good PP. It can certainly improve some though, with a decent strategy applied.

Kreider hit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/...&utm_content=share_button

Ghost:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1730052772236796034
- TheFreak

I like the reaction of number 24 after seeing Ghost get hit.

I agree it's not. Honestly some changes should be made on the PP. Not the stupid changes such as Frost and Hathaway at net front, but changes. What it shows is why is Sanheim the player selected to be replaced? When he has been the most successful even at a miniscule level. The other guy hasn't been better. Reality is the Flyers don't have the personnel to have a really good PP. It can certainly improve some though, with a decent strategy supplied.
- MJL

Well first, let me make it very clear that I don’t have pie charts and left open corsi web sites in front of me when making a comment. I’m just talking hockey. I kind of treat the numbers like politics. Sure the numbers help but they also fuel unnecessary arguments seeing how the numbers change all the time. I suggest Rostolainen to be inserted on the power play because he has a history of producing there and likely has the best point shot on the team. Who comes off, whether it be Sanheim or Walker, means very little to me.

I agree it's not. Honestly some changes should be made on the PP. Not the stupid changes such as Frost and Hathaway at net front, but changes. What it shows is why is Sanheim the player selected to be replaced? When he has been the most successful even at a miniscule level. The other guy hasn't been better. Reality is the Flyers don't have the personnel to have a really good PP. It can certainly improve some though, with a decent strategy applied.
- MJL

You categorizing him being successful is a bad way to put it. He’s still very open to criticism, I think walker or York is a better option there. How is someone asking for change at the top mean others don’t need to be switched out? At this point, the PP needs to flow through TK, he’s the only legitimate threat with the puck we have.

You categorizing him being successful is a bad way to put it. He’s still very open to criticism, I think walker or York is a better option there. How is someone asking for change at the top mean others don’t need to be switched out? At this point, the PP needs to flow through TK, he’s the only legitimate threat with the puck we have.
- ClaudeFather

You categorizing my statement as him being successful is a bad way to put it. What I actually posted is that he has been the most successful. Okay, you think Walker and York is a better option. Based on what actually? What I commented on is the suggestion to not change Walker but to change Sanheim. I did not comment that changes don't need to be made or shouldn't be made. I would also disagree that Konecny is the only legitimate threat with the puck that we have. Frost is the best pure puck distributor on the team. Tippett has real goal scoring ability. The Flyers don't seem to have a plan of attack on the PP. Both in terms of entry or when they get set up.

The PHD line are bottom of the class.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

ES GF% of Flyer forwards after 22 games

Frost 63.64 (10 healthy scratches)
Konecny 62.5
Foerster 60.87 (1 healthy scratch)

Farabee 59.26
Couturier 55.56
Brink 54.55 (5 healthy scratches)
Laughton 50

Tippett 46.88

Atkinson 39.39
Cates 38.89
Poehling 35.71 (3 healthy scratches)
Hathaway 28.57
Deslauriers 20
- Feanor

I'm a little surprised to see Laughton in the middle. I guess that was more towards the beginning of the season when he wasn't a 4th liner.

Keith Jones on tanking:

Hence, Torts is coaching the way he is coaching.
- jd250

There is a big difference, to me, between tanking and prioritizing your lineup for you get players knowing there will be struggles and learning curve.

Tanking to me is icing a roster you know will be non-competitive. Not icing a roster that may take longer to come together and evolve as players grow into their roles.

That’s how I see it, anyway.

There is a big difference, to me, between ranking and prioritizing your lineup for you get players knowing there will be struggles and learning curve.

Tanking to me is icing a roster you know will be non-competitive. Not icing a roster that may take longer to come together and evolve as players grow into their roles.

That’s how I see it, anyway.
- funmaster18

That's how most see it. Jones' statement is just more BS and blowing smoke.

You categorizing my statement as him being successful is a bad way to put it. What I actually posted is that he has been the most successful. Okay, you think Walker and York is a better option. Based on what actually? What I commented on is the suggestion to not change Walker but to change Sanheim. I did not comment that changes don't need to be made or shouldn't be made. I would also disagree that Konecny is the only legitimate threat with the puck that we have. Frost is the best pure puck distributor on the team. Tippett has real goal scoring ability. The Flyers don't seem to have a plan of attack on the PP. Both in terms of entry or when they get set up.
- MJL

York makes quick decisions with the puck and walker has good puck abilities and would give a different looks with a right handed shot which could support TK on that right side . I’ve stated this many times, Sanheim is a good player but he’s not a powerplay guy at the nhl level, his game better suits transition offense rather than stationary.