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StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
this summer
- hello it's me 2050


That's my read as well
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
blow me
- hello it's me 2050


Your response is more indicative of “the problem with society these days”

The Flyers are trying hard to play nice with the folks in Russia because they’d like to someday get MM over here and here’s the coach referring to him as a Mad Russian.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:38 PM ET
Well I do declare.
- mickel25


Tempting, but I’ll decline the offer.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
abc
- hockeylover



Easy as 1-2-3
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:47 PM ET
Yes I believe he has. Or at least has a little better track record. I think we can all agree that none of the three are great at it.
- mickel25


He has, which is why I'm in favor of giving Ristolainen a shot at it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Well that is your opinion.

Is Frost hustling more or coasting more at practice?

Is he going into corners or against the boards and digging pucks out?

You are always acting like the super genius here, only your opinions should be taken as the facts . Do you watch every second of every shift of Frost? Do you watch all his movements? Do you watch what he is doing when he does not of the puck? Do you block out the other 9 players on the ice and concentrate of Frost or do watch a second here and there?

Are you at every game sitting at the top so you can see what every player is doing or are you at home sitting in-front of a tv that does not show everything that is happening on the ice?

I agree with some of your posts but when you start calling out Torts and defame him, you instantly lose credibility.

This horrible coach Torts has a team that has a player that should be retired, 2 players that missed a season or 2, 3 rookies and 6 new players on it contending for a playoff spot. He is a Neanderthal coach who is horrible at his job.

- WhiskeyMan


Yes, it is my opinion and I would ask the same questions to you. Applying the standard of are we there all the time and do we know as much as they do across the board means that we aren't free to comment and offer an opinion? When does that apply or not apply. Randomly or just when we don't like an opinion offered. Here is another opinion. Applying that standard is asininely stupid. It applies infallibility and immunity from criticism to the team.

As far as my credibility is concerned. I'm not hard to find. Challenge my credibility all you want. I welcome it. See how well you make out.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Nov 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
Top line in a few years of Frost, Cutter, and Mad Russian.

We need points this week. We could tumble to 7th in Metro this week.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
Both were force fed minutes, one performed drastically better
- ClaudeFather


am vs travis over the last 3 years.

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

taking out this season so far.

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single




Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
I don't disagree with you and I do feel there needs to be more balance. Hopefully with Cates out Frost and Brink will play well enough to stay in the lineup. However we also have to consider the importance of playing some veteran players enough so they have good trade value come the deadline. For example, you want Staal to showcase himself to other teams so that the Flyers can get something for him. I think this can happen while also making sure Zamula gets into enough games to continue to develop. Torts said as much in yesterday's presser.
- jd250


Showcasing Staal? We're talking about the difference between a 7th-round pick and future considerations here. Either way he's gonna fetch next to nothing. He's like a Plan C for any team looking for veteran 7D.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
am vs travis over the last 3 years.

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

taking out this season so far.

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

- Peter Richards


FYI those comparisons would be more meaningful if you linked the rate comparison instead of the total counts.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 30 @ 2:18 PM ET
Zam, I got to watch games up top and see how D plaued, got to watch Canes D and well they played, LOL
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
FYI those comparisons would be more meaningful if you linked the rate comparison instead of the total counts.
- Tomahawk


can't you just change it when you are on the page. but here you go.


https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

last 3

https://www.naturalstattr...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single


cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Nov 30 @ 2:30 PM ET
Showcasing Staal? We're talking about the difference between a 7th-round pick and future considerations here. Either way he's gonna fetch next to nothing. He's like a Plan C for any team looking for veteran 7D.
- Tomahawk


That's also why I get upset when people say "Trade Frost." For what? What's his value right now? Why would we trade a former 1st round, top 6 center for a late round pick (and maybe a prospect?).

Play Frost. Plain and simple. Now he has a chance. Let's see what he does.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Nov 30 @ 2:35 PM ET
That's also why I get upset when people say "Trade Frost." For what? What's his value right now? Why would we trade a former 1st round, top 6 center for a late round pick (and maybe a prospect?).

Play Frost. Plain and simple. Now he has a chance. Let's see what he does.

- cdearth23

I hope the coach sets him and forgets him here for the next 6-8 weeks. No one in Lehigh Valley should be pushing him out of the lineup at this juncture. But it wouldn't surprise me if they brought in Laczynski and scratched Frost to further prove they don't care for him.

Also, glad to see Staal is finally scratched. I'd like it more if he's scratched for the next 5-10 games so Zamula can get some confidence back. I don't care for Risto but he seems to be a better match with Zamula than Staal anyway.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:45 PM ET
And therein lies the other conundrum. Frost has been demonstrably better than the players replacing him. And Zamula in my opinion has been better than Staal.

Again, sit Brink, Zamula, Foerster every once in a while if they see they are wearing down or just need a maintenance day. But dont blow smoke up my ass telling me that who they are sitting for, are playing too good to be taken out of the lineup.

Frost, there is no excuse. He should be playing every game and it shouldnt even be an issue.

- MBFlyerfan

I'd keep frost but we really need to look into trading some other guys to get talent to play with michkov and cutter
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 2:49 PM ET
FYI those comparisons would be more meaningful if you linked the rate comparison instead of the total counts.
- Tomahawk


It doesn't matter how many times that is explained. Continues to link counts.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 2:52 PM ET
There is no threat of a point shot with sanhiem. Risto is one of the best at getting his on net. Would also like to see York with the 1 st unit as he has run the pp at every level he’s played until now. He is also good at keeping the puck in the zone.
- Peter Richards

Risto and one of the best should never be used in the same sentence
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 2:59 PM ET
Risto and one of the best should never be used in the same sentence
- THE BLACK HAND


on the PP he has the best on goal percentages for d shots on the PP. or did when they traded for him.
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 3:00 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
·
2h
Torts acknowledged today part of the reason why he's pushing the team to play a more aggressive style this year in terms of creating offense is in anticipation for a few years down the road, when Michkov & a few more high-end scorers are here. Had a good quote, too. Incoming.



Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
·
1h
"You get to the future, you start moving away a couple of years from now when the Mad Russian comes over here & you start bringing in maybe some UFAs when the time's right w/some more offensive skill. I want that to fall into place when they come in. I want to stay w/this style."

- StepfordSam

The only thing offensive about his quote is he mentioned UFAs. Same as Jones who also has been harping on this. Don’t they follow the league and realize there are seldom any good UFAs now.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 30 @ 3:00 PM ET
It doesn't matter how many times that is explained. Continues to link counts.
- MJL


all it is, is a click of the button when you open the page....keep trolling.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 30 @ 3:01 PM ET
Showcasing Staal? We're talking about the difference between a 7th-round pick and future considerations here. Either way he's gonna fetch next to nothing. He's like a Plan C for any team looking for veteran 7D.
- Tomahawk


He's like plan D in just defenseman on the Flyers! Showcase him!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 30 @ 3:39 PM ET
The only thing offensive about his quote is he mentioned UFAs. Same as Jones who also has been harping on this. Don’t they follow the league and realize there are seldom any good UFAs now.
- psuhockey

can't see mcdavid wanting to stay in edmonton
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Nov 30 @ 3:49 PM ET
can't see mcdavid wanting to stay in edmonton
- 2Real

Why would he come to the Flyers as opposed to the other 31 teams? Taxes? Weather? Fun city?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Why would he come to the Flyers as opposed to the other 31 teams? Taxes? Weather? Fun city?
- psuhockey

we have a goalie?
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Nov 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
on the PP he has the best on goal percentages for d shots on the PP. or did when they traded for him.
- Peter Richards

That seems like forever ago
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