You'd be wrong then! Bill is stating because the line generated 5 scoring chances they played a good game. I didn't say they didn't play a good game, I just stated I want see Tippet finish more, and whether its recorded in the stats or not, Tippet was a disaster with the puck in his own end and in the neutral zone the entire game. Get your head out of the stat sheets and watch the games!
- jd250

It's a pretty easy read on what you said and have been saying. Now you're just trying to spin it when you know you were obviously wrong. That's a common tactic for you. You still don't seem to understand what stats show you and how they're used. They're often used successfully to show how inaccurate you are on a daily basis. They're also used to provide a factual basis to support an opinion. They often show how your opinion is wrong, which is why you have such an issue with the facts. Whether it's watching the game or properly using fact based information. You have no clue. That's a fact that is proven on a daily basis.

It's a pretty easy read on what you said and have been saying. Now you're just trying to spin it when you know you were obviously wrong. That's a common tactic for you. You still don't seem to understand what stats show you and how they're used. They're often used successfully to show how inaccurate you are on a daily basis. They're also used to provide a factual basis to support an opinion. They often show how your opinion is wrong, which is why you have such an issue with the facts. Whether it's watching the game or properly using fact based information. You have no clue. That's a fact that is proven on a daily basis.
- MJL

No, instead let me explain to you what your common tactic is, putting words in my mouth or more frequently twisting what I said to mean something different than what was meant. BTW, you do this to a lot of people on here, not just me.

So let me explain it to you again in plain, simple language so even you will understand it. I don't think the Frost line played a good game the other night. I thought their puck management was poor, and though they generated scoring chances I would like to see Tippet specifically, finish some of them. If you and others disagree that is fine, it's your right to disagree, but I could care less what you think. I am not here to convince you or anyone to look at things as I do, only to offer my observations. If you had an ounce of respect for anyone other than yourself, this would be an easy thing for you to grasp.

This is common complaint about players like Tippett. Most shooters like Tippett miss the net generally around 20-25% of the time. Tippett like any player is not going to be mistake free. I find your criticisms of Tippett generally unfounded.
- MJL

Tippet misses the net a lot more than 25% of the time from my perspective. I have not seen this part of his game improve over the past two years and that concerns me.

I can't wait for the player to be traded to be honest.
- jd250

I’m not advocating for him to be traded but man, oh man. You can’t even have an objective conversation about Frost. We just faced Crosby and Malkin in a home and home. Jack Hughes before that. I couldn’t tell you what Frost’s ice time was in these three games but I kinda prefer more experienced defensive centers against the best in the world when facing off with them. Call me crazy. Like, why the old comments coming out of camp?

Wow…

Doesn’t take much to make you cry, does it?

My comments, My posts, have nothing to do with other players. I’d sit Farabee and Tippet late in games too.
- roenick97

Don’t you know 97 that you can only have opinions that MJL approves. Otherwise he swoops in from above to set you straight . This is so his life has meaning.

Tippet misses the net a lot more than 25% of the time from my perspective. I have not seen this part of his game improve over the past two years and that concerns me.
- jd250

He really needs to work on his accuracy. Maybe take a page from Jagr and stay on the ice with someone to feed him pucks all over the ice.

No, instead let me explain to you what your common tactic is, putting words in my mouth or more frequently twisting what I said to mean something different than what was meant. BTW, you do this to a lot of people on here, not just me.

So let me explain it to you again in plain, simple language so even you will understand it. I don't think the Frost line played a good game the other night. I thought their puck management was poor, and though they generated scoring chances I would like to see Tippet specifically, finish some of them. If you and others disagree that is fine, it's your right to disagree, but I could care less what you think. I am not here to convince you or anyone to look at things as I do, only to offer my observations. If you had an ounce of respect for anyone other than yourself, this would be an easy thing for you to grasp.
- jd250

We know what you said. If you didn't play a good game then you played a bad game. It's that simple. As Bill and others have posted. You're wrong, again! That is plain and simple language. Easy to understand. Nobody disagrees with wanting to see any player finish his chances. What is disagreed with is your improper criticism. Players are going to have games where they don't finish. Doesn't mean they played a bad game. If a player isn't getting chances and was not effective or around the puck, then maybe criticism is warranted.

Respect is earned. There is no reason to respect the hockey knowledge of someone who runs the gamut of either being simply wrong or misinformed to being outrageously stupid. With your comments on Claude Giroux being the latest example of the latter. With a complete inability to learn anything from anyone. You don't have to search hard for any of this from you. It occurs on a daily basis!

We know what you said. If you didn't play a good game then you played a bad game. It's that simple. As Bill and others have posted. You're wrong, again! That is plain and simple language. Easy to understand. Nobody disagrees with wanting to see any player finish his chances. What is disagreed with is your improper criticism. Players are going to have games where they don't finish. Doesn't mean they played a bad game. If a player isn't getting chances and was not effective or around the puck, then maybe criticism is warranted.

Respect is earned. There is no reason to respect the hockey knowledge of someone who runs the gamut of either being simply wrong or misinformed to being outrageously stupid. With your comments on Claude Giroux being the latest example of the latter. With a complete inability to learn anything from anyone. You don't have to search hard for any of this from you. It occurs on a daily basis!
- MJL

false cliff. You can have an average game no? A neutral game no?

do you still buy your ex xmas presents?

No, instead let me explain to you what your common tactic is, putting words in my mouth or more frequently twisting what I said to mean something different than what was meant. BTW, you do this to a lot of people on here, not just me.

So let me explain it to you again in plain, simple language so even you will understand it. I don't think the Frost line played a good game the other night. I thought their puck management was poor, and though they generated scoring chances I would like to see Tippet specifically, finish some of them. If you and others disagree that is fine, it's your right to disagree, but I could care less what you think. I am not here to convince you or anyone to look at things as I do, only to offer my observations. If you had an ounce of respect for anyone other than yourself, this would be an easy thing for you to grasp.
- jd250

I didn't say they didn't play a good game,

I figured out your Super Hero Name.

Its Groundskeeper JD

Because you are the master at moving the goalposts. Your quantum ability is to take every side of every argument and magically believe your basic ideas are somehow yours alone. You are like the Milli Vanilli of posting. The Vanilla Ice of stealing someone else's opinions and passing them off as your own as if you and you alone could come up with it. The drive by shooter of hockeybuzz, tossing out whatever crazy theory or idea you have and by the time its proven wrong you are long gone and moved on to another wacky take on something all the while denying you ever took the previous take you got called out on.

Stay inconceivable Fazzini.

Tippet misses the net a lot more than 25% of the time from my perspective. I have not seen this part of his game improve over the past two years and that concerns me.
- jd250

Is it perspective? History tells us that your perspective is badly flawed. There is a way to tell actually. Shot stat data could give you the factual answer. Why look that up though when it could ruin your narrative.

Is it perspective? History tells us that your perspective is badly flawed. There is a way to tell actually. Shot stat data could give you the factual answer. Why look that up though when it could ruin your narrative.
- MJL

His shot through % is at the lowest of his career at 49.3%. Last year it was 55.3%, career average is 56.2%. He's missing more this season, objectively. Also subjectively by watching.

His shot through % is at the lowest of his career at 49.3%. Last year it was 55.3%, career average is 56.2%. He's missing more this season, objectively. Also subjectively by watching.
- atibus

But if you look up Pastrnak or Matthews, they are also off by 5%, so who knows.

His shot through % is at the lowest of his career at 49.3%. Last year it was 55.3%, career average is 56.2%. He's missing more this season, objectively. Also subjectively by watching.
- atibus

That percentage for his career and for last season is a much larger sample. His percentage this season is a small sample. It's also going to fluctuate the same as shot % from year to year.

Where did you find this stat at?

His shot through % is at the lowest of his career at 49.3%. Last year it was 55.3%, career average is 56.2%. He's missing more this season, objectively. Also subjectively by watching.
- atibus

Thank you! So now that MJL has been proven wrong factually, will he acknowledge it and apologize? I highly doubt it!

Thank you! So now that MJL has been proven wrong factually, will he acknowledge it and apologize? I highly doubt it!
- jd250

Tell me, what was I factually wrong about?

That percentage for his career and for last season is a much larger sample. His percentage this season is a small sample. It's also going to fluctuate the same as shot % from year to year.

Where did you find this stat at?
- MJL

He watches the games dote! Just admit you’re wrong … again!

He watches the games dote! Just admit you’re wrong … again!
- jd250

You don't find a specific shot percentage stat from watching the game! LOL

Tell me, what was I wrong about?

I figured out your Super Hero Name.

Its Groundskeeper JD

Because you are the master at moving the goalposts. Your quantum ability is to take every side of every argument and magically believe your basic ideas are somehow yours alone. You are like the Milli Vanilli of posting. The Vanilla Ice of stealing someone else's opinions and passing them off as your own as if you and you alone could come up with it. The drive by shooter of hockeybuzz, tossing out whatever crazy theory or idea you have and by the time its proven wrong you are long gone and moved on to another wacky take on something all the while denying you ever took the previous take you got called out on.

Stay inconceivable Fazzini.
- MBFlyerfan

The intent of my original post was not criticize frost or his line as a whole, it was to point out that I don’t like how Tippet is playing currently. That was it! In fact I stated at the top that I was not going to criticize Frost! But one sentence is taken out of context and it causes all this. It’s people like you that simply can’t read a post, agree or disagree with it and move on. Nope, let’s dissect every word and turn it into something else entirely. You and MJL must be brothers or something, but whatever you are, you are both sad people!

I was able to go to the game and sat in the 200 level. The one thing I noticed about that line is that Frost can carry the puck in and then dish it off, but the puck very rarely, if ever, was returned back to him. Maybe I'm imaging it, as my eyes re getting old, but it sure seemed like he never received a return pass...
- mr4tno

I noticed that, but I also saw him pass the puck off and head to the net. So his mindset seems right..decent dish to the linemate and heads to the net for a rebound. The bigger issue I saw was that when Brink or Tippet were recieving the pass, they couldn't....it seemed to bounce off their sticks, or they couldn't control the pass.

Is that on the passer or reciever? Frost's passes looked pretty acurate to me, and Brink seemed almost caught off guard that the puck was there.

You don't find a specific shot percentage stat from watching the game! LOL

Tell me, what was I wrong about?
- MJL

You’re wrong about a lot of things specifically by saying that Tippet only misses the net 20-25% of the time.

Is it perspective? History tells us that your perspective is badly flawed. There is a way to tell actually. Shot stat data could give you the factual answer. Why look that up though when it could ruin your narrative.
- MJL

Hey that’s ok, you can twist this ands just say I said Tippet sucks

You’re wrong about a lot of things specifically by saying that Tippet only misses the net 20-25% of the time.
- jd250

You have a reading comprehension issue. I did not state that. You need to review what was said.

Hey that’s ok, you can twist this ands just say I said Tippet sucks
- jd250

Also, not what I said.

Is it perspective? History tells us that your perspective is badly flawed. There is a way to tell actually. Shot stat data could give you the factual answer. Why look that up though when it could ruin your narrative.
- MJL

what orginization did you play your youth hockey at?

I can't wait for the player to be traded to be honest.
- jd250

We are all aware