Wow you really have a warped perception of how others view advanced stats

Talking about them the way you do proves you haven't really been listening when others explain how they can be useful or why they're interesting to look at.
- NorthNuck

Hockey is a fast moving physical sport where analytics cannot account for let alone other circumstances that can arise. It’s at most a guide that needs long periods of sampling. Eye tests win.

Are you fucking insane posting expected goals in here?!?!? You'll give one of these old men an aneurysm!
- NorthNuck

Once again, being a fucking idiot. Arrogant little prick.

Hockey is a fast moving physical sport where analytics cannot account for let alone other circumstances that can arise. It’s at most a guide that needs long periods of sampling. Eye tests win.
- Nighthawk

There's no "winning" or "losing". Advanced metrics can help give a more nuanced view of how things played out or are likely to play out in the future. They're an enhancement to the eye test, not a replacement.

If you go based purely on the eye test, you would think Boeser is due to score like 55 goals this year. We all know that's not the case don't we?

Once again, being a fucking idiot. Arrogant little prick.
- Marwood

I can only listen to so much bitching and whining before I feel compelled to say something 🤷‍♂️

If you're gonna get salty about a harmless joke don't pick fights so often

There's no "winning" or "losing". Advanced metrics can help give a more nuanced view of how things played out or are likely to play out in the future. They're an enhancement to the eye test, not a replacement.

If you go based purely on the eye test, you would think Boeser is due to score like 55 goals this year. We all know that's not the case now don't we?
- NorthNuck

You have that backwards. The eye test you would see what type of goals he scores and his style of play and know that is very unlikely. The eye test would slot him in around 37 to 42 .

The numbers or expected stats would slot him in at fifty five seeing it is based on numbers and equations.

You have that backwards. The eye test you would see what type of goals he scores and his style of play and know that is very unlikely. The eye test would slot him in around 37 to 42 .

The numbers or expected stats would slot him in at fifty five seeing it is based on numbers and equations.
- VANTEL

They quite literally do not.

They quite literally do not.
- NorthNuck

I have never seen one person on here say Boeser is going to score 55 until you said it.

I have never seen one person on here say Boeser is going to score 55 until you said it.
- VANTEL

How about the best stat around…

Over/under 40 goals

I have never seen one person on here say Boeser is going to score 55 until you said it.
- VANTEL

Neither have I.

How about the best stat around…

Over/under 40 goals
- Nighthawk

That's about where I would set it. Most sites I've seen trying to project have him landing around 39.

I'll say over cause I really want to see him hit 40

How about the best stat around…

Over/under 40 goals
- Nighthawk

Brock will score 38 or 39 unless injured.

Top line Canucks.

Hoglander JTM Brock

Hughes Hronek

Demko

Hronek is the only one not involving Benning. The man was a legend, I am looking forward to his Ring of Honor night.

Top line Canucks.

Hoglander JTM Brock

Hughes Hronek

Demko

Hronek is the only one not involving Benning. The man was a legend, I am looking forward to his Ring of Honor night.

- VANTEL

Trigger warning!

Trigger warning!



- boonerbuck

Top line Canucks.

Hoglander JTM Brock

Hughes Hronek

Demko

Hronek is the only one not involving Benning. The man was a legend, I am looking forward to his Ring of Honor night.

- VANTEL

His name better make it on the cup in June

Top line Canucks.

Hoglander JTM Brock

Hughes Hronek

Demko

Hronek is the only one not involving Benning. The man was a legend, I am looking forward to his Ring of Honor night.

- VANTEL

Benning did some good things but the focus is always on his (frank)ups.

Wow you really have a warped perception of how others view advanced stats

Talking about them the way you do proves you haven't really been listening when others explain how they can be useful or why they're interesting to look at.
- NorthNuck

I only wrote that drivel in response to your old man having an aneurism.

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There's no "winning" or "losing". Advanced metrics can help give a more nuanced view of how things played out or are likely to play out in the future. They're an enhancement to the eye test, not a replacement.

If you go based purely on the eye test, you would think Boeser is due to score like 55 goals this year. We all know that's not the case don't we?
- NorthNuck

First statement is exactly right. Boeser stuff is up for debate imo

Top line Canucks.

Hoglander JTM Brock

Hughes Hronek

Demko

Hronek is the only one not involving Benning. The man was a legend, I am looking forward to his Ring of Honor night.

- VANTEL

First statement is exactly right. Boeser stuff is up for debate imo
- neem55

Yeah, I think maybe I phrased it poorly. All I meant is at the most base level, someone could look at his goal total and say "Okay well if he has 21 in 29, he'll get 59 in 82"

While any rational fan knows he won't hit that because regression exists. The bigger point is that we can get an (on average) closer estimate on what that regression will look like using advanced stats. Without them you're just throwing a dart to pick a number at random, no matter how good you think your eye test is you're still guessing, just while using less data.

Benning did some good things but the focus is always on his (frank)ups.
- Bettmanhatesus

Cap management he had no clue. All of the rest is easily forgotten.

Yeah, I think maybe I phrased it poorly. All I meant is at the most base level, someone could look at his goal total and say "Okay well if he has 21 in 29, he'll get 59 in 82"

While any rational fan knows he won't hit that because regression exists. The bigger point is that we can get an (on average) closer estimate on what that regression will look like using advanced stats. Without them you're just throwing a dart to pick a number at random, no matter how good you think your eye test is you're still guessing, just while using less data.
- NorthNuck

Game is played on the ice & many factors dictate results. Regression is a nonsensical word. Ebbs & flows can vary greatly & analytics are not predictive on circumstances that will actually happen. One season or partial season sampling allows the eye test to see a lot more as in line chemistry & deployment & scheduling differences etc.

Cap management he had no clue. All of the rest is easily forgotten.
- Nighthawk

17 teams over the Cap but yeah Jim was clueless. About 10 teams have lived over the cap for the last decade including the Leafs and Bolts.

Yeah, I think maybe I phrased it poorly. All I meant is at the most base level, someone could look at his goal total and say "Okay well if he has 21 in 29, he'll get 59 in 82"

While any rational fan knows he won't hit that because regression exists. The bigger point is that we can get an (on average) closer estimate on what that regression will look like using advanced stats. Without them you're just throwing a dart to pick a number at random, no matter how good you think your eye test is you're still guessing, just while using less data.
- NorthNuck

Sorry man, but it's a proven fact that your eyes and brain process information using far more data than mathematical formulas.

Gene Carr dead at 72, played for the kings and flames in the 70s.